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Steel smashing into steel doesn't cause steel to become dust.

Remember my magnetism demonstration? The dust is largely iron, and that needs to be explained by any serious mechanism of WTC destruction.

That's where the 19-Arab conspiracy theory fails, and it's also where the explosives theory fails. Neither produces this type of material when you start out with a steel building.

NoahFence said:
No, hundreds (thousands) of tons of steel can turn concrete, wallboards, ceiling tiles and many other things into dust. Especially when the steel strikes the concrete at a high rate of speed.

The Manhattan Project began modestly in 1939, but grew to employ more than 130,000 people and cost nearly US$2 billion (roughly equivalent to $24.4 billion as of 2011[1]).

How many people were required to build a weapon (IMO) much more powerful and scary than an atom bomb? How did all those people keep quiet after so long? Why can't you PROVE anything?

You're no scientist. You have no Phd. You LIE and you know it. This is a game to you. I know what happened to the towers, and I'm a printer. Although I do have some helpdesk experience, too.

I know what caused WTC 1 to collapse before it was even done. What's taking you so long? Where is this weapon? Where was it tested? How much did it cost?
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WTC Dust said:
P.S. Why do you believe the 19-Arab Conspiracy theory so strongly?
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Real skeptics realize that the body of evidence to support the commonly-held narrative of 9-11 is huge, therefore it must be accepted, in lieu of compelling evidence to the contrary, as the leading theory.

Real skeptics don't believe a word of somebody on an internet forum claiming to have evidence that something other than fires and damage brought down the towers, any more than they believe somebody claiming to be a time traveler warning me of an economic collapse in 2050.
 
Then just sit tight and be patient. Research takes time. What are you going to say when other people are analyzing my dust? That they, too, are crackpots?

I really doubt anything is going to change your mind about the 19-Arab conspiracy, so believe me fully when I say that I'm not attempting to change your mind.

I'm putting my work out there for debunking. Most of what I've gotten from you supposedly premier debunkers is utter crap and nothing of a debunking.

"You are crazy." isn't a debunking, by the way. It's an insult, and a slimey one at that. There are crazy people walking the earth, and they deserve our compassion and help, not ridicule, and certainly not shallow accusations towards the non-crazy.

twinstead said:
You only SAY your methodology is observation, observation, observation, and taking samples. You only SAY you have samples of the remains of the WTC. You could be some crackpot for all we know.

The only response from those who contest your findings is, "why should we believe a word you say?", and the only response from you should be, "because I had the samples independently tested and the results support my findings. Here they are."

Until that conversation happens, you're just another nobody on a relatively obscure internet forum claiming to have earth-shattering evidence of something.
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WTC Dust said:
Then just sit tight and be patient. Research takes time. What are you going to say when other people are analyzing my dust? That they, too, are crackpots?
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So you've already decided what their analysis will be? What if it comes back with no "metal foam"? Who did you send samples to?
 
I have the material in my possession that has already proved the 19-Arab conspiracy to be wrong.

You just don't believe it because ?? other people ?? haven't come up with a similar conclusion.

It's called a discovery, and I'm the one who made it. :-)

Only a person like me would ever spend her life doing this. Other people would not go through all this trouble, even if they knew something was fishy about the story.

Research science for the win!



twinstead said:
Real skeptics realize that the body of evidence to support the commonly-held narrative of 9-11 is huge, therefore it must be accepted, in lieu of compelling evidence to the contrary, as the leading theory.

Real skeptics don't believe a word of somebody on an internet forum claiming to have evidence that something other than fires and damage brought down the towers, any more than they believe somebody claiming to be a time traveler warning me of an economic collapse in 2050.
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Why shouldn't I be the one who decides what work needs to be done on my own samples?

Besides, every single published article on the subject (save "Where did the Towers Go?" by Dr. Judy Wood) is wrong, and even she doesn't talk about the reason why the dust is multiple colors.

Only I am. I discovered that the WTC was turned into multiple types of metallic foam. Nobody else did.



DGM said:
So you've already decided what their analysis will be? What if it comes back with no "metal foam"? Who did you send samples to?
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WTC Dust said:
It's not bounce-back from any sort of plane impact. It doesn't happen at the moment when the object appears to touch the south face of WTC 2. It begins later.

So it doesn't qualify as bounce-back from a plane crash. It's something, just not plane debris.
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Please don't ever again claim you know anything about physics.
 
WTC Dust said:
I have the material in my possession that has already proved the 19-Arab conspiracy to be wrong.

You just don't believe it because ?? other people ?? haven't come up with a similar conclusion.

It's called a discovery, and I'm the one who made it. :-)

Only a person like me would ever spend her life doing this. Other people would not go through all this trouble, even if they knew something was fishy about the story.

Research science for the win!
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I don't believe it because all you have is words. I also believe that if you are a research scientist, you aren't a very good one, or at least have so much confirmation bias as to render your research skills moot. I have read nothing in this thread to make me less dubious. In fact, I could not be more dubious of you and your dust.

get your samples tested by an independent source, get off your computer, and go somewhere where somebody can DO something about it to make your case

You have a tough road ahead of you convincing your colleagues I can imagine, so you'd better get started. Until then you must excuse me for wanting a second opinion.
 
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WTC Dust said:
You're wrong. The dust is largely iron.
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You lie.


I have the rational world at my side that says I'm right. You? You have voices in your head, lies, a undeserved sense of self-worth, delusions and drugs. You have a lie that you're a scientist. You have lies that you have a Phd. You lie about your education, your observations and your reasoning. There is nothing about you that is accurate or truthful. Nothing.
 
Do you have anyone in mind?


twinstead said:
I don't believe it because all you have is words. I also believe that if you are a research scientist, you aren't a very good one, or at least have so much confirmation bias as to render your research skills moot.

get your samples tested by an independent source, get off your computer, and go somewhere where somebody can DO something about it to make your case

Until then you must excuse me for wanting a second opinion.
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WTC Dust said:
What are you going to say when other people are analyzing my dust? That they, too, are crackpots?
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If they conclude that the crud you found in your breezeway is foamicized steel from the WTC then yes, they are crackpots.

Is Henryco one of your "other people"? :rolleyes:
 
Why did the dust move the magnet, if it wasn't iron?
Why are there rusty spots on the samples, if it isn't iron?

Real questions. I'd like your answers.

NoahFence said:
You lie.


I have the rational world at my side that says I'm right. You? You have voices in your head, lies, a undeserved sense of self-worth, delusions and drugs. You have a lie that you're a scientist. You have lies that you have a Phd. You lie about your education, your observations and your reasoning. There is nothing about you that is accurate or truthful. Nothing.
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