• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

WTC dust

Status
Not open for further replies.
So are you going to run this idea by some 3rd party that some of the plane should have bounced off? We'll overlook the fact that there's a giant plane shaped hole in the side of the building, and the jet fuel that was dumped down the elevator shaft and smelled by hundreds of people, and that plane debris was found on the street on the exit side oh and the hundreds of videos showing a plane hitting the building, the plane manifests confirming the planes full of passengers left the tarmac that day and the thousands of eye witnesses that confirmed seeing the planes.

We'll forget all that, let's just look at the idea that parts of a jet traveling 600 mph loaded with fuel should bounce off the side of a building. You game or what? Just one professor, from a school of your choice, confirming this notion. Should be easy peasy.
 
WTC Dust said:
The most shameful thing about 9/11 is that so many people have been convinced of impossible physics.

The plane pieces would have bounced off the exterior steel beams at the south face of WTC 2, not punctured through like Wiley Coyote going through a mountain. Cartoon physics, indeed.
Click to expand...


Please show your calculations that back up that assertion stating all assumptions made...............


waiting....


Waiting....

chirp.....


chirp.....
 
WTC Dust said:
Oops. Got that part wrong. Anyway, the plane parts did bounce off the building, which is my main point.
Click to expand...

:jaw-dropp

Why, pray tell, are you comparing a relatively slow-speed plane crash into a largely concrete building to an extremely high-speed plane crash into a building composed largely of aluminum and glass, with steel columns added for support purposes? Do you not see the issue with that comparison? Two entirely different types of buildings; two entirely different types of planes, plus a difference of at least 200 mph, IIRC. No comparison can legitimately be made.

Epic.

Fail.

AGAIN.
 
3bodyproblem said:
So are you going to run this idea by some 3rd party that some of the plane should have bounced off? We'll overlook the fact that there's a giant plane shaped hole in the side of the building, and the jet fuel that was dumped down the elevator shaft and smelled by hundreds of people, and that plane debris was found on the street on the exit side oh and the hundreds of videos showing a plane hitting the building, the plane manifests confirming the planes full of passengers left the tarmac that day and the thousands of eye witnesses that confirmed seeing the planes.

We'll forget all that, let's just look at the idea that parts of a jet traveling 600 mph loaded with fuel should bounce off the side of a building. You game or what? Just one professor, from a school of your choice, confirming this notion. Should be easy peasy.
Click to expand...

Here is the undamaged Empire State Building after the B25 bounced off it.
 
WTC Dust said:
[W]hen an airplane flew into the Empire State Building, the passengers on that plane survived. They just crawled over the wreckage and took the elevators down to the ground.
Click to expand...

I'm really fascinated by the above, mostly because it was posted by a PhD. Anybody with an IQ above room temperature should know better, but a research scientist? To believe it is even possible is bad enough, but to put it up there before such a critical crowd as this one without doing a little fact-checking.... The idea of survivors casually disembarking the Empire State crash wreckage must have come from the same part of her nether regions as the idea that the WTC toilets wouldn't shatter after a 1000 foot drop to the ground. She seems to be disconnected from common sense and really not understand how foolish she looks when she posts such impossibilities. Well, on this one at least she offered an "oops" since the deaths of the passengers are a matter of record, not something she can consider a question of her qualifications or expertise. Anything that does that will, I'm sure, continue to be ignored.
 
Last edited:
brazenlilraisin said:
I'm really fascinated by the above, mostly because it was posted by a PhD. Anybody with an IQ above room temperature should know better, but a research scientist?
Click to expand...
It boggles the mind, doesn't it? The B-25 had to go 90 mph just to get off the ground, and would have been traveling well over 100mph when it hit the Empire State building.

Does WTC Dust think she could drive a car into a concrete building at 100mph and survive? :boggled:
 
WildCat said:
Does WTC Dust think she could drive a car into a concrete building at 100mph and survive? :boggled:
Click to expand...

She seems to think it wasn't a plane that hit the WTC, so within the realm of what she thinks is or isn't possible, walking away from a 100 mph car crash probably seems reasonable.
 
brazenlilraisin said:
I'm really fascinated by the above, mostly because it was posted by a PhD. Anybody with an IQ above room temperature should know better, but a research scientist? To believe it is even possible is bad enough, but to put it up there before such a critical crowd as this one without doing a little fact-checking.... The idea of survivors casually disembarking the Empire State crash wreckage must have come from the same part of her nether regions as the idea that the WTC toilets wouldn't shatter after a 1000 foot drop to the ground. She seems to be disconnected from common sense and really not understand how foolish she looks when she posts such impossibilities. Well, on this one at least she offered an "oops" since the deaths of the passengers are a matter of record, not something she can consider a question of her qualifications or expertise. Anything that does that will, I'm sure, continue to be ignored.
Click to expand...

And then she says "Oops,I got that bit wrong." Some research scientist.
 
WildCat said:
It boggles the mind, doesn't it? The B-25 had to go 90 mph just to get off the ground, and would have been traveling well over 100mph when it hit the Empire State building.

Does WTC Dust think she could drive a car into a concrete building at 100mph and survive? :boggled:
Click to expand...

Google tells me that the speed was between 200 and 300 mph.
 
http://www.elevator-world.com/magazine/archive01/9603-002.htm

Damage to the building and the surrounding area was extensive. An 18-by-20 foot hole was gouged by the B-25, and one of the plane's engines plowed through the building, emerging on the 33rd Street side and crashing through the roof of a neighboring building. Upon impact, windows shattered, and glass fell to the street. When the bomber hit, its fuel tanks exploded, sending flames racing across the 79th floor in all directions. According to Althea S. Lethbridge, a secretary for a trading company on the 72nd floor, 'Everything shook. (At the window), we saw flames below and above us. It was scary; we didn't know how fireproof the building was.'

One plane motor went right through the bottom of the car equipment, hitting one of our guide rails (3-1/2 x 5"), doubling it in a 'V' shape. The motor then went through the building, tore a hole 20 feet wide, took the windows and wall down with it (78 floors) and landed in a building across the 33rd Street side. The plane was moving upward when it struck. (The pilot must have seen the building.) Walls between the three columns were torn 40 feet wide, the plane taking bricks and windows from the 78th and 79th floors with it, as well as one 10" I-beam -- eight feet inside the building -- supporting the 79th floor; the 20 foot long beam had a 30" bow. The plane penetrated the #6 and #7 car hatch walls, cutting the cable on the #6 car that was on its way down. Our selector in the motor room indicated the cables were cut when the car was at about the 38th floor.


So much for Toontown physics.
 
WTC Dust said:
The most shameful thing about 9/11 is that so many people have been convinced of impossible physics.
Click to expand...
The "most shameful?" How sad for you.

The plane pieces would have bounced off the exterior steel beams at the south face of WTC 2, not punctured through like Wiley Coyote going through a mountain. Cartoon physics, indeed.
Click to expand...
A-hem. It's Wile E. Coyote.

Tell me, is there anything you get right, my friend?
 
Last edited:
WTC Dust said:
The passengers on that plane survived. They just crawled over the wreckage and took the elevators down to the ground.
Click to expand...

Either you are one of the most dedicated trolls I've ever come across, or you live in one very strange reality. That has got to be one of the most insane things I have ever heard, in my life. A plane crashes into a building at speeds well above what most car accidents occur at, creating a giant hole, and you think the people inside the plane casually got up, dusted themselves off, and walked out.

How could you not even check your facts before claiming something like that? Does that not sound extraordinary to you, even in the slightest bit? If you seriously believe this stuff, then you need to get your head checked. It seems you are having a really difficult time telling the difference between reality and fiction.
 
Thunder said:
88 pages devoted to a troll.

Nice job guys.
Click to expand...

duty_calls.png
 
I think this thread has long since stopped being about WTC dust and is now about the strange problem presented by the OP. Is it really a PhD laureate who has suffered some kind of mental lapse or head injury? Is it a common troll who has stolen the identity of Dr. Blevins? Is she indeed who she says she is, but is having fun with us? Or perhaps she is researching a paper on the effect of trolls on the psyches of internet forum participants?

God only knows. However, it seems EXTREMELY unlikely that someone has actually managed to bluff her way through the various stages of academia without learning some of the most basic concepts of science and critical thinking.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.

Back
Top Bottom