WTC dust

[leftysergeant]

In fact, the poofing was going on inside the building BEFORE the towers fell. Look at the images. Especially look at the images of WTC 1 immediately after WTC 2 fell. You will note two distinct colors of fumes/dust coming from WTC 1.

No. What you see is the normal smoke of an office fire above the impacted floors and the dust from WTC2 caught in the wind and lifted by air currents up the side of WTC1. There is nothing the least bit peculiar about the way this dust moved.

Also, look at the images of WTC 7 from the south side. Amazing fumes.

The wind is coming from behind WTC7 and causing an edy that traps the totally normal smoke of the office fires against the face of the building. You do need to go watch some videos of structural fires.

 

[DGM]

The poofing began at the very beginning of the destruction sequence.

In fact, the poofing was going on inside the building BEFORE the towers fell. Look at the images. Especially look at the images of WTC 1 immediately after WTC 2 fell. You will note two distinct colors of fumes/dust coming from WTC 1. Also, look at the images of WTC 7 from the south side. Amazing fumes.

"Poofing"?

That must be some of the "new" science I didn't get in school.

 

[leftysergeant]

"Poofing"?

That must be some of the "new" science I didn't get in school.

I think whacky old Judy called it "lathering up."

 

[Thunder]

Originally Posted by WTC Dust
The poofing began at the very beginning of the destruction sequence.

In fact, the poofing was going on inside the building BEFORE the towers fell.

"Poofing".

I love it. Pure comedic genius.

 

[dafydd]

What garbage. Most of the building was steel, and you can't turn steel into dust, not with any amount of explosives. It's physically impossible.

How can you call yourself a scientist? You say the dust "exploded"? How about proving it. Calculate the speed of the dust. That should give us all a chuckle. Because it's been done, and again there's irrefutable proof the dust was moving well below the speed of sound.

This is a joke, this notion that the building was turned to dust, ffs you may as well claim it was turned into wine and fishes to feed the hungry masses.

I'm sorry if you feel you're being picked on, but quite frankly you are. You're being held to a higher standard than the usual conspiracy nut because they usually lack any formal education. You don't and there really is no excuse for someone like yourself to be making claims such as this. You should have experience writing scientific reports, using scientific principles and scientific language. As of yet there is absolutely nothing forthcoming from you on that front. Shame on you, you've managed to diminish your otherwise distinguished achievements with this nonsense.

Well said.I still find it hard to believe that she has a degree,unless it is from the University of Toontown.

 

[dafydd]

I can introduce you to quite a few poofs,Dusty.Just say the word.

 

[chipmunk stew]

Any part of an airplane that hit a steel beam would get smashed to bits.

It did. That's why it didn't continue flying out the other side of the building.

edit: And avg cruising speed of a plane is about 600 mph, which is about 10,000 inches per second. How much deformation do you think you're going to observe on a video that's not hi-res or high speed?

 

[leftysergeant]

All of this ignores the fact that the majority of the dust can be seen to pour down off the tops of the towers to fall in a thick layer in the streets below. Little of it was found to be a ferrous material. What rose up the center of the dust plume appears to be smoke. Simple logic would support that it is unburned hydrocarbon based on the fact that it is lighter than air. You have to get iron bloody hot to make it lighter than air.

You need to find one hell of a deposit of powdered iron somewhere.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

i am not a historian. I'm not a good research scientist. Why don't you tell me what you think i need to know? I can't guess very well on subjects i'm not an expert in.

ftfy

 

[carlitos]

What garbage. Most of the building was steel, and you can't turn steel into dust, not with any amount of explosives. It's physically impossible.

How can you call yourself a scientist? You say the dust "exploded"? How about proving it. Calculate the speed of the dust. That should give us all a chuckle. Because it's been done, and again there's irrefutable proof the dust was moving well below the speed of sound.

This is a joke, this notion that the building was turned to dust, ffs you may as well claim it was turned into wine and fishes to feed the hungry masses.

I'm sorry if you feel you're being picked on, but quite frankly you are. You're being held to a higher standard than the usual conspiracy nut because they usually lack any formal education. You don't and there really is no excuse for someone like yourself to be making claims such as this. You should have experience writing scientific reports, using scientific principles and scientific language. As of yet there is absolutely nothing forthcoming from you on that front. Shame on you, you've managed to diminish your otherwise distinguished achievements with this nonsense.

Has anyone forwarded this thread to the "real" person being represented here? It's possible that this thread and the Facebook linked earlier are just some deluded fan or random truther imitating this person.

 

[Thunder]

Has anyone forwarded this thread to the "real" person being represented here? It's possible that this thread and the Facebook linked earlier are just some deluded fan or random truther imitating this person.

its TB, trust me.

 

[TheBigKahuna]

Momentum is conserved in a collision, which means that every impact includes evidence of deceleration.

A soft, lead bullet might show this deceleration by becoming somewhat squashed. An airplane would show this deceleration by destroying itself at the moment of impact (at the south face of WTC 2) and not any time after the impact.

Any part of an airplane that hit a steel beam would get smashed to bits. You can't just say the exterior of the WTC was made out of "mostly glass" and slide away from it. YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE STEEL, FOLKS!!

STEEEEL!! STEEEEEL!! Don't forget that the exterior of WTC 2 was made from aluminum-covered steel and glass.

Your observation skills are pathetic, and you ignore the fact that conservation of momentum requires the destroyed plane to CONTINUE MOVING THROUGH THE BUILDING.

You still haven't addressed the flaws in the science:
Wierzbicki, T. & Teng, X. (2003). "How the airplane wing cut through the exterior columns of the World Trade Center." J. of Impact Engrg. Volume 28, Issue 6, pp. 601-625
You're wrong.

 

[Furcifer]

its TB, trust me.

Does it say what her favorite cereal is? I've got a good guess.

None of this adds up, you're in the NY area. You've got to free yourself up for this limited engagement and see what's going down. You give me your PayPal number and I'll buy you a beer if you go. The morbid curiosity is just killing me, only slightly less than the 400 mile drive would. Plus I hate those toll roads in NY.

 

[fess]

YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE STEEL, FOLKS!!

STEEEEL!! STEEEEEL!! Don't forget that the exterior of WTC 2 was made from aluminum-covered steel and glass.

Well Ms. Research Scientist, job well done. Except, you forgot to mention that the aluminum covered steal columns were only 1/4/of an inch on the impact floors. All of which were bent inward after the impact of a massive object made of very strong aluminum alloy traveling at around 800 ft/sec.
I have personally seen ½ inch steel I beams totally disfigured by cars during an auto accident, and you can’t see how a 757/767 aircraft can’t penetrate the outer wall of the towers. You really suck outside of your “expertise”.

Phd? Push here dummy.

 

[WildCat]

I'm a research scientist.

And I'm the King of Prussia.

 

[Furcifer]

Challenges are all the rage these days, so I'll challenge WTC Dust.

I'll bet I can get 3 email responses from professors at random Big Ten Universities refuting the notion that the planes should have "bounced off" the WTC before you can get a single one at any post secondary educational instituion confirming the planes should have "bounced off". This includes "pay for" Universities like Phoenix or DeVrey.

Just get one independent source from a University of you choosing to confirm this obvious fact you continue to tout.

I'm betting you won't even consider taking the challenge because you are a complete and utter fraud. You wouldn't dare to contact someone from your own University to verify your absurd notion because just like every other Truther that comes here, deep down inside you know you are full of it up to your ears

Just give us one independent source confirming you aren't a complete and utter fraud. It's that easy. Hundreds of institutions to choose from Dust, just one email from a professor in a science department. From thousands of people.

I'll take your silence on the matter as confirmation of what we all already know

 

[HatRack]

I can't guess very well on subjects I'm not an expert in.

You're not an expert in any field related to what happened on 9/11, and yet here you are, guessing about what the plane crash should have looked like.

 

[triforcharity]

Does it say what her favorite cereal is? I've got a good guess.

None of this adds up, you're in the NY area. You've got to free yourself up for this limited engagement and see what's going down. You give me your PayPal number and I'll buy you a beer if you go. The morbid curiosity is just killing me, only slightly less than the 400 mile drive would. Plus I hate those toll roads in NY.

I am good for a few bucks.

 

[WTC Dust]

All of this ignores the fact that the majority of the dust can be seen to pour down off the tops of the towers to fall in a thick layer in the streets below. Little of it was found to be a ferrous material. What rose up the center of the dust plume appears to be smoke. Simple logic would support that it is unburned hydrocarbon based on the fact that it is lighter than air. You have to get iron bloody hot to make it lighter than air.

You need to find one hell of a deposit of powdered iron somewhere.

It didn't smell like a hydrocarbon fire, and hydrocarbon fires are easily put out with water.

Don't forget the 27 days of rain during the first 100 days after the attacks, all the while the fumes kept going and going.

Don't forget the fumes on the one year anniversary of the attacks.

 

[WTC Dust]

Challenges are all the rage these days, so I'll challenge WTC Dust.

I'll bet I can get 3 email responses from professors at random Big Ten Universities refuting the notion that the planes should have "bounced off" the WTC before you can get a single one at any post secondary educational instituion confirming the planes should have "bounced off". This includes "pay for" Universities like Phoenix or DeVrey.

Just get one independent source from a University of you choosing to confirm this obvious fact you continue to tout.

I'm betting you won't even consider taking the challenge because you are a complete and utter fraud. You wouldn't dare to contact someone from your own University to verify your absurd notion because just like every other Truther that comes here, deep down inside you know you are full of it up to your ears

Just give us one independent source confirming you aren't a complete and utter fraud. It's that easy. Hundreds of institutions to choose from Dust, just one email from a professor in a science department. From thousands of people.

I'll take your silence on the matter as confirmation of what we all already know

If you contact any professors, then get it right.

I'm saying that at least some parts of the plane would have bounced off the south face of WTC 2 if a plane crash took place at the south face of WTC 2.

I'm not saying THE ENTIRE PLANE would bounce off the south face of WTC 2, just parts of it.

Some of the plane would probably get stuck inside the building, as happened when an airplane flew into the Empire State Building. The passengers on that plane survived. They just crawled over the wreckage and took the elevators down to the ground.

You'd end up with damage similar to that seen in the photograph below.