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Fonebone said:
What about an electromagnetic weapon with a frequency of zero and a infinite
wavelength that will transform steel into a open cell foam slag in milliseconds
with very little heat generation ? This slag dissolved into a dust powder with the
slightest of handling or bending. I've seen it with my own eyes.
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You have some evidence to support this of course?

Otherwise why would you claim such a thing?
 
Fonebone said:
What about an electromagnetic weapon with a frequency of zero and a infinite
wavelength that will transform steel into a open cell foam slag in milliseconds
with very little heat generation ? This slag dissolved into a dust powder with the
slightest of handling or bending. I've seen it with my own eyes.
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The Keebler elves have such a device.
 
epfcg emp

leftysergeant said:
Linky?
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U-Bet
An explosively pumped flux compression generator (EPFCG)
creates an EMP of Direct Current (D.C.) with currents exceeding 10's of millions
of Amperes for micro-seconds.
A tsunami of DC current will vaporize steel and the condensate will solidify
into a open celled slag of black gray material
that snaps like spaghetti when flexed
and dissolves into a dust-like powder in your fingers when handled.
I have seen this with my own eyes.

http://www.active-duty.com/MI_FCG_FluxCompressionGenerator.htm

An FCG is an astoundingly simple weapon. It consists of an explosives-packed tube placed inside a slightly larger copper coil, as shown below. The instant before the chemical explosive is detonated, the coil is energized by a bank of capacitors, creating a magnetic field. The explosive charge detonates from the rear forward. As the tube flares outward it touches the edge of the coil, thereby creating a moving short circuit. "The propagating short has the effect of compressing the magnetic field while reducing the inductance of the stator [coil]," says Kopp. "The result is that FCGs will produce a ramping current pulse, which breaks before the final disintegration of the device. Published results suggest ramp times of tens of hundreds of microseconds and peak currents of tens of millions of amps." The pulse that emerges makes a lightning bolt seem like a flashbulb by comparison.
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The explosive magnetic flux generator has been weaponized and has been
installed on cruise missiles like the AGM_86D CALCM for delivery.
If a weaponized EPFCG EMP can be
delivered by cruise missiles it can be delivered by truck to a loading dock.
 
Gee, just think, the WTC complex would still be standing today if only it had been built with good ol' vacuum tube technology. :rolleyes:
 
Fonebone said:
U-Bet
An explosively pumped flux compression generator (EPFCG)
creates an EMP of Direct Current (D.C.) with currents exceeding 10's of millions
of Amperes for micro-seconds.
A tsunami of DC current will vaporize steel and the condensate will solidify
into a open celled slag of black gray material
that snaps like spaghetti when flexed
and dissolves into a dust-like powder in your fingers when handled.
I have seen this with my own eyes.

http://www.active-duty.com/MI_FCG_FluxCompressionGenerator.htm
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Well, we have a number of problems with this, don't we?

1. All the evidence points to the failure ocurring on the upper floors of the properties, starting with the deformation of the outer facade. That's the trucks out.

2. We're not talking about taking out just one or two columns and beams to induce failure, but rather a lot. Whilst there seems to be no doubt that the MFCG devised can produces significant power, I've yet to see any data on extent of the effect.

3. If we want decent power, they're not exactly small devices, are they? Why don't you tell us the size of unit we'd have to be clamping on to the columns to make these devices bring down the tower?

4. And that takes us back to the same problem the "explosives" proponents have. How do all these devices get placed without anyone noticing?

5. Final point. Accordingly to the site you linked, side effects of the electro-magnetic pulse are noticeable some distance away. What verifiable and substantive evidence of this do you have from 911?
 
WTC Dust said:
Check out the cnn article titled "Space-time cloak could conceal events".

Excerpt:
(CNN) -- New materials with the ability to manipulate the speed of light could enable the creation of a "space-time cloak" capable of masking events or even creating an illusion of "Star Trek"-style transportation, according to scientists in London.

The cloak, while currently only existing in mathematical theory, takes advantage of the potential properties of "metamaterials" -- artificial materials designed and manipulated at a molecular level to interact with and control electromagnetic waves.

Scientists have previously demonstrated that one possible use of metamaterials could be to render objects invisible by bending light around them.
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WTC....

I happen to know one of the guys doing this research....

While making an "invisibility cloak" out of metamaterials IS theoretically and mathematically possible.....the last time I spoke to him about this issue he told me he believes we are AT LEAST 20 years away from making this a reality.

Now of course it's possible that there will be some major breakthroughs in this area....but unless someone shows it to me I will take him at his word, since he is actually working on this stuff.

Another use of metamaterials that is often exaggerated is making exotic antennas out of them.....I have attended a few meetings by antenna experts that have said they are not impressed by metamaterials in this area either and that there are other ways of getting equivalent performance from more conventional antenna materials.

So metamaterials are promising I agree.....but let's not overstate their usefulness.
 
Fonebone said:
What about an electromagnetic weapon with a frequency of zero and a infinite
wavelength that will transform steel into a open cell foam slag in milliseconds
with very little heat generation ? This slag dissolved into a dust powder with the
slightest of handling or bending. I've seen it with my own eyes.
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You posted a link to an EMP bomb, but I did not see any of this crap in that artcle.
 
Architect said:
Well, we have a number of problems with this, don't we?

1. All the evidence points to the failure ocurring on the upper floors of the properties, starting with the deformation of the outer facade. That's the trucks out.

2. We're not talking about taking out just one or two columns and beams to induce failure, but rather a lot. Whilst there seems to be no doubt that the MFCG devised can produces significant power, I've yet to see any data on extent of the effect.

3. If we want decent power, they're not exactly small devices, are they? Why don't you tell us the size of unit we'd have to be clamping on to the columns to make these devices bring down the tower?

4. And that takes us back to the same problem the "explosives" proponents have. How do all these devices get placed without anyone noticing?

5. Final point. Accordingly to the site you linked, side effects of the electro-magnetic pulse are noticeable some distance away. What verifiable and substantive evidence of this do you have from 911?
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I think I can predict his response:

"I don't have all the answers. That's why we need a new investigation!"

That's right, Fonebone. I've decoded the Official Truther Response Script.
 
If the truthers would pool all of their whacky ideas like, turning steel to dust, aircraft bouncing off of tall structures, space beam weapons and the like, put them into book form as a comedy, they would make millions. The screen play alone could be sold for millions. That would give them more than enough money to conduct their own investigation. :)
 
WTC Dust said:
If there had been a collapse, I'd have expected many toilets and sinks to have survived. This building experienced a pancake collapse. The WTC should have looked something like this, if a collapse had occurred.
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Wow! Has this been Stundie'd?

You can't drop a toilet from 5 feet without it smashing into a million pieces, let alone a 1000. Then you expect the WTC to magically transform into a 5 story tall concrete building. :jaw-dropp

(if there had been a collapse :confused:)
 
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