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WTC Dust said:
The lack of a tail section from a plane that supposedly crashed into the ground is suspicious.
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Why? Do you not see a difference in a pilot who has throttled back on a plane in a landing approach at an airport and one who has throttled up to purposely crashdive into the ground?

WTC Dust said:
It's not the only anomaly with the plane stories, but it is, all by itself, evidence that no hijackings occurred.
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Explain.
 
Björn Toulouse said:
Of course you will have a completely neutral person who very delicately holds the chunk close to the magnet as the magnet is pushed away. You won't be anywhere near the experiment, especially with the chunk between yourself and the dangling magnet, right?
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If you watch the show on December 1, you'll see for yourself. I'm putting it up on USTREAM.
 
Björn Toulouse said:
Why? Do you not see a difference in a pilot who has throttled back on a plane in a landing approach at an airport and one who has throttled up to purposely crashdive into the ground?



Explain.
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Let's say I'm right, and no tail section was found in the hole at Shanksville.

They said a plane crashed there, right? So you'd expect to see something like the remnants of a plane crash when you got there.

Fine. Now, look at as many different plane crashes as you can find, especially ones that involved high speed. Discover how many of them include a tail section that survives an impact.

If you come away with any other value than 100%, please inform me, because I've really tried to find one instance and I can't.
 
Björn Toulouse said:
Of course you will have a completely neutral person who very delicately holds the chunk close to the magnet as the magnet is pushed away. You won't be anywhere near the experiment, especially with the chunk between yourself and the dangling magnet, right?
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I won't be in between the magnet and the chunk. I will be holding the chunk, but the chunk itself will be closer to the magnet than my gloved fingers will be.
 
WTC Dust said:
Let's say I'm right, and no tail section was found in the hole at Shanksville.

They said a plane crashed there, right? So you'd expect to see something like the remnants of a plane crash when you got there.

Fine. Now, look at as many different plane crashes as you can find, especially ones that involved high speed. Discover how many of them include a tail section that survives an impact.

If you come away with any other value than 100%, please inform me, because I've really tried to find one instance and I can't.
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Was I the first to post it?

PSA Flight 1771

and again
 
WTC Dust said:
I won't be in between the magnet and the chunk. I will be holding the chunk, but the chunk itself will be closer to the magnet than my gloved fingers will be.
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No, no, that's not the correct position I spoke of. The chunk should not be between yourself and the magnet (not you between the magnet and the chunk) if you expect the magnet to move away from the chunk like you said. There is a magician's reason for that.
 
Björn Toulouse said:
No, no, that's not the correct position I spoke of. The chunk should not be between yourself and the magnet (not you between the magnet and the chunk) if you expect the magnet to move away from the chunk like you said. There is a magician's reason for that.
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OK! Good to know. Should I have an audience member do it instead of me? Should I have the audience vote on who gets to do it? Should I have the USTREAM viewers decide?

I don't want to mess this up. I want it to be bulletproof.
 
WTC Dust said:
OK! Good to know. Should I have an audience member do it instead of me? Should I have the audience vote on who gets to do it? Should I have the USTREAM viewers decide?

I don't want to mess this up. I want it to be bulletproof.
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Alterius non sit, qui potest esse sui
 
Björn Toulouse said:
Alterius non sit, qui potest esse sui
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I'm my own master in that I'm willing to solicit and accept advice from other people who know better.

I don't claim to be the best. I'm just doing what I'm doing, and I do appreciate the tip about how to do my magnet dancing such that it can't be criticized.

Do you have a specific way that you might suggest for me to do this? I don't want to accidentally ruin my presentation by doing it in a style that could be criticized as potentially magician-like.
 
I'd suggest you start with the point, rather than relying on showing people you have something magnetic, which isn't at all unexpected.
 
WTC Dust said:
The lack of a tail section from a plane that supposedly crashed into the ground is suspicious.

It's not the only anomaly with the plane stories, but it is, all by itself, evidence that no hijackings occurred.
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What a truther apparently expects to see in a plane crash...

kamenitsaplanecrash6760.jpg
 
Here's a quote attributed to Nikola Tesla:

Tesla also claimed that his OSCILLATOR could knock down any building and even split the earth in half:

"So powerful are the effects of the telegeodynamic oscillator", said Tesla in reviewing the subject in the thirties, "that I could go over to the Empire State Building and reduce it to a tangled mass of wreckage in a very short time. I could accomplish this result with utmost certainty and without any difficulty whatever. I would use a small mechanical vibrating device, an engine so small you could slip it in your pocket. I could attach it to any part of the building, start it in operation, allow it twelve or thirteen minutes to come to full resonance. The building would first respond with gentle tremors, and the vibrations would then become so powerful that the whole structure would go into resonant oscillations of such great amplitude and power
that the rivets in the steel beams would be loosened and sheared. The outer stone coating would be thrown off and then the skeleton steel structure would collapse in all its parts. It would take about 2.5 horsepower to drive the oscillator to produce this effect." (O' Neill, Prodigal Genius, p. 165).
 
excaza said:
I'd suggest you start with the point, rather than relying on showing people you have something magnetic, which isn't at all unexpected.
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Well, that brings me back to the heterogeneity of my samples and the quote from Carl Sagan, "The beauty of a living thing is not the atoms that go into it, but the way those atoms are put together."

The "beautiful" or "interesting" thing about my samples is not just their atomic composition, it's the structure of it. It's amazing. Metallic foam is the closest I can describe it. The odd structure of this dust speaks loudly.

It veritably screams, "An airplane crash can't do this!"
 
Sam.I.Am said:
What a truther apparently expects to see in a plane crash...

[qimg]http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4379/kamenitsaplanecrash6760.jpg[/qimg]
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Since practically every picture of a plane crash I've ever seen resembles this image, I agree.

Sometimes the plane is more broken up, but the tail section survives.

The reason the tail section survives more often than the nose of the plane is because the impact of the nose onto the ground actually slows the plane quickly. By the time the tail has a chance to reach the ground, the plane has already stopped, so the tail section survives.

No tail section of a plane at Shanksville? That is a reason to ask questions about that flight, even leading all the way up to the original claim of a hijacking.
 
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So are you calling the people who claimed to have talked to their loved ones on the flights liars?
 
WTC Dust said:
Since practically every picture of a plane crash I've ever seen resembles this image, I agree.

Sometimes the plane is more broken up, but the tail section survives.

The reason the tail section survives more often than the nose of the plane is because the impact of the nose onto the ground actually slows the plane quickly. By the time the tail has a chance to reach the ground, the plane has already stopped, so the tail section survives.

No tail section of a plane at Shanksville? That is a reason to ask questions about that flight, even leading all the way up to the original claim of a hijacking.
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You missed a couple of posts.

Also, where did Tesla demonstrate that device?
 
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