WTC dust

[WTC Dust]

So present your data. "The dust in my possession is composed of ... "

Your continuing refusal to do so indicates that the experiment has not been done, despite your repeated assertion that it has. The way to prove us wrong would be to *drumroll* present the data. You're not going to be able to bluff your way out of it.

Your numbers should have presented before your assertion that the dust is "strange."

Very funny. To reiterate, I'm not going to jump around like your monkey.

I've presented my first tiny bit of data. What do you say about it?

 

[dtugg]

I'm presenting my data exactly as I choose to present it.
Starting with the in situ picture. I don't plan to move forward
until this is commented upon. If all you get is that pic, ok.

What the **** do you expect us to say? It is a picture of dust. So *********** what? It tells us absolutely nothing. Are you really this stupid?

 

[WTC Dust]

The grill it treated with ceramics usually, that prevent it from melting.

Secondly, your experiment with the kerosene is flawed, as it doesn't have all the other objects available to give it additional heat. Ie: Chairs, tables, paper, etc. etc. etc.

I can give you the links of quite a few steel framed structures that collapsed from fire alone.

Would you like them?

Here you go.

http://www.fpemag.com/archives/article.asp?issue_id=27&i=153

Here is the USF AAR from the Sight and Sound Theature.
http://www.interfire.org/res_file/pdf/Tr-097.pdf

Here is a near paper on the Perfomance of lightweight steel trusses in fires.
http://fire-research.group.shef.ac.uk/Downloads/SC_Baltimore.pdf

How about the Kader Toy Factory
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/kade-m16.shtml

How about the fire at the Meridian Plaza?
http://www.iklimnet.com/hotelfires/meridienplaza_lessons.html

The concrete structure did NOT collapse, but yet, the steel portion did.

How about that? 3 different fires, 3 collapses of steel framed structures....

ETA: Did you just compare the 1975 fire to the 2001 attack? Holy crap.

Not over 5 floors instantly.

No impact damage

Did not cover the entire floor area.

Holy **** that was stupid....

The WTC didn't collapse. It was turned almost entirely into dust.

 

[W.D.Clinger]

You all are arguing that the steel of the WTC wasn't turned into dust. I'm telling you it was,

Cool story, bro'.

You need to clear your heads and understand that you are communicating with an independent researcher,

Cool story, bro'.

I'm a research scientist by training and vocation.

Cool story, bro'.

I have data that no one or almost no one else in the world has.

Cool story, bro'.

I enjoy an occasional fantasy, but you need more variety in your stories. If you'd take the trouble to learn something about science, then you could branch out into science fiction.

 

[WTC Dust]

Your logic is "I know it exists"

Yet you can't provide any reasonable way of powering or deploying it. Nor can you explain (using the laws of this universe, not the dream one you live in) how it works.

This weapon exists only in your head.

Another misstatment of my views.
My view is that I don't know specifically that this weapon does not exist.

 

[tsig]

Are you saying that research scientists follow orders?

"CALCULATE THIS, IMMEDIATELY!!!"
"Yes, sir, stranger, sir. Right away."

Makes me giggle what you seem to expect.

Giggling is, of course, exactly what research scientists do when asked to back up their claims.

 

[WTC Dust]

Nobody cares where the dust was found. You said the dust is "strange." This means the composition is not what you believe it should be. This conclusion requires knowledge of the composition. Which you don't have, after 9 years.

Clairvoyance, again, in a JREF forum? Not what I expected.

 

[tsig]

I include the dust as part of the debris, but there were also some things thrown that weren't dust.

So some steel was dustified and some wasn't.

 

[dtugg]

Another misstatment of my views.
My view is that I don't know specifically that this weapon does not exist.

I don't specifically know that the Matrix doesn't exist. Should I consider it a realistic possibility?

 

[WTC Dust]

I thought that the dust looked a bit crystalline.

It is very obviously crystalline, yes. I would describe it as a heterogeneous foam.

 

[Oystein]

Another misstatment of my views.
My view is that I don't know specifically that this weapon does not exist.

If you ran a few calculations (physics), you'd know soon and generally that it doesn't.

 

[WTC Dust]

Well you lost my interest when you stopped listening to people that were actually there and refused to show any data. The trade center buildings were not turned to dust.

Happy Trails

Bye! Hope you come back when we get to talking about my data!

 

[bill smith]

Very funny. To reiterate, I'm not going to jump around like your monkey.

I've presented my first tiny bit of data. What do you say about it?

Will you post the dust picture onscreen again ?

 

[dtugg]

Clairvoyance, again, in a JREF forum? Not what I expected.

I know that to people like you knowing such things might be impossible without psychic powers. But to normal people, all you need is to not be an idiot. If you had conducted these analysis, you would have told us by now. You have done nothing. Nor will you ever. Because you are a failure.

 

[WTC Dust]

What precentage of the dust is iron?

What precentage is sulfer?

How about aluminum?

Barium Nitrate?

How about horse ass?

Can you get me the precentages?


I can post a picture of a bag of **** if you want, doesn't mean a damn thing.

You still haven't talked about the tiny bit of data that I presented. You're talking about what has not been presented. It seems odd to me.

 

[GlennB]

I also have dust samples. They wouldn't be very convincing as a plain DEW exhibit though, as the dust invariably has dog and cat hairs in it. But I reckon I could invent a pretty good CT around the hairs, probably involving a nifty phrase like macro-energetic resonance strings, and a mention of Steven Hawking.

Is there money to be made in this kind of thing?

 

[WTC Dust]

Are you psychic now? Cool!!

Actually, not in the slightest.

Up until now, I considered myself the second most knowledgeable person on the subject of what destroyed the World Trade Center, Dr. Judy Wood being the first.

Perhaps with my new research, I'll be #1 !! Not that I care, really. I'm just excited about my own findings. Dr. Wood is cool and will always be #1 in my book.

I'm presuming you haven't communicated with Dr. Wood, is all.

 

[dtugg]

Actually, not in the slightest.

Up until now, I considered myself the second most knowledgeable person on the subject of what destroyed the World Trade Center, Dr. Judy Wood being the first.

Perhaps with my new research, I'll be #1 !! Not that I care, really. I'm just excited about my own findings. Dr. Wood is cool and will always be #1 in my book.

I'm presuming you haven't communicated with Dr. Wood, is all.

X infinity

 

[excaza]

Mr. Troll, what is the mass composition of your dust sample?

 

[tsig]

I have data that no one or almost no one else in the world has.

You know, I can believe that, now whether the data conforms to reality is another matter.