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WTC Dust said:
This is untrue, even in your world of yesteryear that doesn't include energy weapons.

You can turn steel into dust by filing it down, silly. That doesn't even take learning on your part, now, does it?
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So it was an orbital energy....file?

I would love to live in your fantasy world.
 
WTC Dust said:
How do you know that the dust ISN'T made up of different types?
I'm the one who has the dust. It's not all the same stuff.
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I don't, you dolt, that's why I'm asking you to provide the composition of the dust in your possession

There's a difference between "slow" and "unable to run, in 9 years, an analysis that would take less than an hour"
 
WTC Dust said:
You can call me slow, if it really makes you feel better.

How do you know that the dust ISN'T made up of different types?
I'm the one who has the dust. It's not all the same stuff.
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What is the difference in chemical composition between the different dust types? Surely a real research scientist has to know this, esp. when the dust is in your possession. Or is your sample just...collecting dust?
 
alienentity said:
Lack of scientific quantifying noted. ETA as well as blatant nonsense. Philips and Jordan give these statistics:

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The last debris was processed on July 26, 2002, day 321 of the project. At the close of the Staten Island Landfill mission:
• 1,462,000 tons of debris had been received and processed
• 35,000 tons of steel had been removed (165,000 tons were removed directly at Ground Zero)
• 806,000 tons of debris had been screened, an average of 75 tons per hour
• 14,968 workers had been through the PPE process
• 43,600 people (39,795 NYPD, 6,212 non-NYPD) had been through the Site Specific Indoctrination
• Over 1.7 million man hours had been worked
• Over 55,000 discrete pieces of evidence had been recovered
• 4,257 body parts had been recovered
• 209 victims had been positively identified

When you claim that 'almost all the WTC got turned to dust' you are making a blatantly false, and incredibly stupid, claim. There isn't a shred of science in it to debunk, it's really that dumb and dishonest.

You might as well say 'a whole bunch', and throw out math and science altogether...actually, you have done that:p





Ummm, you have no science to back it up? Steel conducts electricity anyway, so if you pass a current thru it nothing happens, unless you happened to add an absolutely staggering amount of energy - but then what is the proposed level of energy, where and how was it generated?

So yes, the complete lack of any science to back up your 'dustification' theory is an outrageous appeal to magic.

One of the reasons you're encountering disdain and ridicule is because you refuse to get serious about it, refuse to discuss the science (if you had any) with anyone who's a skeptic, and have a complete lack of respect for the evidence against your whackadoodle ideas. Case in point is your repeated evasion of the documented amounts of structural steel removed from the WTC: at least 200,000 tons of it.

You really are pretty out-to-lunch. I'm surprised you can begin to take yourself seriously, because what you've offered thus far is a bad joke, and nothing more. You're a very poor scientist, I'm afraid - and I guarantee that you do not hold degrees majoring in chemistry and physics. No way.
I'm guessing biological sciences, perhaps biomed background.

You don't have physics. That's clear.
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I got an A in second semester physics lab in college. Doesn't that count for something!!??? :D
 
Yes, I made a mistake. A file can turn steel into dust.

I'd love to see evidence of Darth Vader using his Imperial Death-file, to obliterate the WTC.

:)

Also, if the steel turned to dust, why was the dust cloud not highly reflective and shimmery?

9-11-01 was an extremely sunny day, and yet the three dust clouds were not shimmery clouds of reflective brilliance.



UH...OH!!! someone's gonna have to come up with a new theory!!!!!
 
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WTC Dust said:
Thank you for posting those pictures.

Is there still anyone out there who refuses to acknowledge that steel turned into dust on 9/11?
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Yes, we and J-Wood know that DEW's Death Ray turns car steel to flaming toast not dust so that rules dusty DEW out.
 
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alienentity said:
Exhibit B is this grainy youtube video which proves that the WTC core turned to dust. This video has been peer-reviewed by other youtube viewers, who heartily agree that this proves 9/11 was an inside job.
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Exhibit B isn't a video, it's a few frames cherry picked from a video (a video that clearly shows the core falling) in order to show the core "dustifying." I'm surprised they didn't just grab the first frame, put it next to the last frame, and say the core just disappeared. It would have been just as honest.
 
WTC Dust said:
I got an A in second semester physics lab in college. Doesn't that count for something!!??? :D
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Not much, apparently. You're way outside your area of expertise, and you ought to know that. Delusions of grandeur coupled with excessive contrarianism are not pretty.

Think different, but don't be stupid.
 
alienentity said:
You really are pretty out-to-lunch. I'm surprised you can begin to take yourself seriously, because what you've offered thus far is a bad joke, and nothing more. You're a very poor scientist, I'm afraid - and I guarantee that you do not hold degrees majoring in chemistry and physics. No way.
I'm guessing biological sciences, perhaps biomed background.
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Homeopathy, perhaps.

Examining the totality of evidence from which WTC Dust has concluded that dustification of the WTC towers is an undeniable fact, I am struck by its similarity to the evidence for pharmacological effectiveness of homeopathic remedies.

Although WTC Dust has been unwilling to present his/her/its/that argument in mathematical form, the following equation may be relevant:

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WTC Dust said:
I just think the operator didn't get the job done perfectly. Every new technology has some kinks that need to get worked out.

The top of WTC 2 tipped over, about 25 degrees from vertical, but then it dissolved on the way down. I can imagine the operator of the machine going, "OH CRAP!" <zap, zap, zap> manually. Just a guess, though.

The airplane crashers (aka concrete floor crashers) have exactly ZERO explanation as to why we didn't see a big chunk of WTC 2 on the ground. The top of the building was tipping over. No concrete floors were available to crash down on anything, so why didn't we end up with a big chunk of WTC 2 left over?

Because it was an electrical weapon that destroyed the World Trade Center.
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In this clip you can see a large portion of the WTC2 core that temained for a short time. I wonder if debunkers have seen those core columns in the footprint of WTC2 later and have pictures to prove it. I am not anticipating any coherent replies needless to say.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1615521411849861778#

PS. Obviously we need to see a small mountain of exclusively core columns in one massive heap in the centre of the footprint.
 
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WTC Dust, one of your biggest mistakes, IMO, is failing to recognize the staggering incompetence of Dr. Judy Wood. Sure, there was a hellova lot of dust created during the collapses, but there was a hellova lot of debris and structural steel recovered as well.

Dr Wood's theory does not fit the known evidence, at least not in this dimension of spacetime. Maybe somewhere else in another universe.....but not this one.
 
Dusty (and her hero Judy Wood) may well be the most obvious example of the Dunning-Kruger effectWP in the entire world.
 
Massive clouds of steel dust. And yet, no shimmery reflection from the sun. No steel colored residue covering lower Manhattan.

How does this work again?
 
You see how truthers get trapped by their own claims? Dusty declares that 'Almost all the WTC got turned into dust', yet 1,462,000 tons of debris were received and processed at Freshkills. If that de facto represents almost nothing, I'd hate to see an estimate of the original WTC mass before this magical 'dustification' process.

According to Gregory Urich's paper, the total mass of the towers was as much as 500,000 tons. The total mass of structural steel was 200,000 tons.

Since 200,000 tons of steel has been accounted for by Philips and Jordan, that would be the equivalent of the entirety of steel in the towers, but wouldn't include the rest of the WTC buildings.

The total mass of the towers would include their live loads (office contents) so this fits very well into the reported total of 1,462,000 tons of debris recovered from the WTC.

Unless WTC Dust can demonstrate that the debris should have weighed 30 million tons or so, then the claim 'Almost All' is easily falsified, even if it is ludicrously vague. I'm just assuming it means 'less than 5% remaining undustified'. Just for giggles. Make the value of 'almost all' 50% if you wish - then you'd need to account for a total of 3 million tons.

But that makes the phrase 'almost all' as meaningless as the infamous ''almost freefall' phrase when it turns out to be 64% of freefall..
 
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