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WTC Discussion: Core Column Temperature & Failure.

28th Kingdom said:
Not surprising...to see a Doublethinker... with a proclivity for paradoxical phrases. :)

To understand recursion, you must first understand recursion.
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do you even know what DOUBLETHINK implies?


Doublethink is a collective solipsistic (sp?) mindset in George Orwells 1984.

Doublethink is the ability to hold TWO OR MORE contradictory premises in your head at the same time, without hesitation.


here's an example :

28th Kingdom said:
None of you ever tried to envision the fact that the 37 non-severed core columns were still running from the base of the building through the impact floors and up to the hat truss located at the top of the upper floors. There was no falling mass on the core columns at the time of the initial collapse...that's what you're all not thinking about. It looks like the entire impact floors just melted away...causing the upper mass to crash down on the lower floors...but we know better than that...because those VERTICAL core columns, were still non-severed and running through the impact floors...so it's not even possible to think that they could have magically snapped or buckled in the span of one second...let alone continued to buckle and snap all the way down.
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Translation : 28th believes an analytic approach, a "Left Brained" approach holds value in discussion. He just used something that resembles it, barely.

and :

28th Kingdom said:
Left-brained people are so unbelievably naive. If they only knew what the world really looks like.
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Translation : 28th believes "Left Brained" thinking holds no value.



that is Doublethink in action.
 
solidslade said:
Translation : 28th believes an analytic approach, a "Left Brained" approach holds value in discussion. He just used something that resembles it, barely.

and :

Translation : 28th believes "Left Brained" thinking holds no value.


that is Doublethink in action.
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You are drawing false assumptions and stating them as facts...by putting words into my mouth. I never said left-brained thinking holds no value. I said that in certain situations...linear, left-brained analysis, can blind you to an obvious truth that has revealed itself right before your eyes.

Analyzing things from a hardcore left-brained (skeptic) position - often creates an impairment (blind spot) in ones' perceptions...because of the tendency to over analysis the event before taking a step back and observing things on a surface level. That initial step back may reveal certain key facts/clues/insights that serve as an essential component in ones research/investigation.

The fact, that NIST never incorporated therma/ite or explosives into their equations (they didn't even test for residues on the steel samples) shows you that they were operating from this crippled left-brained viewpoint.

This is one reason they gave as to why they didn't test for explosive residue:

"Video evidence also showed unambiguously that the collapse progressed from the top to the bottom, and there was no evidence ... of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors as the top building sections ... began their downward movement upon collapse initiation."

Now, we know that's a lie..because we've all seen video of squibs shooting out, some 20-30 floors below the collapse point.
 
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28th Kingdom said:
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"Video evidence also showed unambiguously that the collapse progressed from the top to the bottom, and there was no evidence ... of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors as the top building sections ... began their downward movement upon collapse initiation."

Now, we know that's a lie..because we've all seen video of squibs shooting out, some 20-30 floors below the collapse point.
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First off, "squib" is a misnomer; stop using it.
Main Entry: 1squib
Pronunciation: 'skwib
Function: noun
Etymology: origin unknown
1 a : a short humorous or satiric writing or speech b : a short news item; especially : [SIZE=-1]FILLER[/SIZE]
2 a : a small firecracker b : a broken firecracker in which the powder burns with a fizz
3 : a small electric or pyrotechnic device used to ignite a charge
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http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/squib
Uses
Squibs are widely used in the motion picture special effects industry to simulate a bullet hit from a gun firing blanks. The squib is coupled with a condom or balloon of fake blood (and sometimes chunks of sponge to thicken it) for hits on persons. For hits on ricochets off other objects, items such as dust and small rocks or wood splinters are attached to the squib.
In aviation, squibs are used to generate pressurised gas to open valves and operate small mechanical devices such as those found on ejection seats, and to pierce frangible disks that are retaining pressurised liquids such as halon and fluorocarbon extinguishants, or release compressed nitrogen gas to act as a propellant.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Squib_(explosive)

Secondly, that you choose to ignore and/or dismiss other explanations that are consistent with the other evidence does not mean that your skewed interpretation is correct.
 
I tell you one gift of the left-brain...and that's speed reading. You people have superhuman powers when it comes to that. Good Lord.
 
28th Kingdom said:
"Video evidence also showed unambiguously that the collapse progressed from the top to the bottom, and there was no evidence ... of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors as the top building sections ... began their downward movement upon collapse initiation."

Now, we know that's a lie..because we've all seen video of squibs shooting out, some 20-30 floors below the collapse point.
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Um...no. We have seen the "squibs", but they are not evidence of explosives. To be evidence of explosives, they would have to be inconsistent with the no-explosives account; too bad for you the no-explosives account actually explains the "squibs" better than the controlled-demolition hypothesis. Both the location and the timing of the "squibs" are not consistent with CD, but are consistent with air pressure from the collapsing tower.
 
28th: what do you think is the better model for a magnetic confinement fusion generator? a tokamak style reactor or a stellarator? or do you think inertial confinement is the way to go?

no fair researching the pros and cons of each method, thats too left brained...what does your common sense tell you?



the point im trying to make if you cant apply common sense to a highly technical subject that YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT!
 
I tell you what IS consistent; your complete failure to repond to substantive points when put to you!
 
defaultdotxbe said:
28th: what do you think is the better model for a magnetic confinement fusion generator? a tokamak style reactor or a stellarator? or do you think inertial confinement is the way to go?

no fair researching the pros and cons of each method, thats too left brained...what does your common sense tell you?



the point im trying to make if you cant apply common sense to a highly technical subject that YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT!
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http://search.yahoo.com/search?p="m...rator"&fr=yfp-t-501&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8

There's your answer, Einsteen. First grammar - then condescension.
 
I assume 28th Kingdom knows that the right-brain/left-brain thing is a gross oversimplification...but with what he appears to have for brains, I guess it doesn't matter much.
 
It would be useful if they use their media directory for all their links.

Of course NIST will check this hypothesis, because they have to come with an explanation. We are only just at the beginning.
 
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