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Wow, UK has lost freedom of speech

Ziggurat said:
Praying silently in the wrong place is a crime in the UK.

You are not a free society. Don’t pretend you are.
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It is endlessly fascinating on this forum to see posters make wide generalizations purporting to support their particular positions based on a distortion of the facts of a singular incident.

"The wrong place" in this case is defined well before hand and is determined to be an area where persons accessing the clinic are to be free of harassment. The "prayer" in this case knew that perfectly well. Under such specific circumstances making a public display of your opposition to abortion by any method is a violation and is liable to be prosecuted. The praying aspect is irrelevant so get off your religious high horse and try to understand what actually happened.

And on a purely personal level I would consider a person openly praying at me, under any circumstances, to be harassment and an affront to my atheism.

The USA is not a free society. Don't pretend you are.
 
Ziggurat said:
Then it's not relevant. Unless you want to judge legal questions on the basis of biblical teachings, then there's no point in considering biblical teachings. And I'm pretty sure you don't want to judge legal questions on the basis of biblical teachings.
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Why was it necessary for him to pray outside an abortion clinic?
 
Ziggurat said:
Then it's not relevant. Unless you want to judge legal questions on the basis of biblical teachings, then there's no point in considering biblical teachings. And I'm pretty sure you don't want to judge legal questions on the basis of biblical teachings.
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Exactly. The fact that there was prayer involved is totally irrelevant to the case. And yet posters here keep harping on the praying as if it somehow mattered.
 
Hercules56 said:
Whataboutism, is a poor rebuttal.
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Not intended as a rebuttal.

To the OP - Get your own house in order before you criticize others for doing the same things.

You started the thread to criticize the UK for doing a thing that the USA would not permit. Ostensibly because of their glorious constitution. What we have learned here though is that all countries place restrictions on free speech, and that some countries are better at protecting the rights of all their citizens without giving a "speaker" blanket special status.
 
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UK is a weird place. Females need to be protected from a single male, silently praying, in the vicinity of an abortion clinic - such silent action is clearly harassment and unacceptable. On the other hand, if females gather to discuss their rights and the way in which proposed legislation affects them... well, when a horde of males show up to scream at them, drown out their discussion, and call for punching, raping, or decapitating those females there's nothing at all wrong with that, it's perfectly acceptable.
 
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