I think also that there's a big and important difference between what one calls a person who doesn't mind, and what one calls a person who does mind. It doesn't matter what some imagined person in a theoretical situation might or might not object to. It does matter (or so I believe) if a person says outright "don't call me that" in a place and a language that are present. I think aside perhaps from some inconvenient peculiarity, falsehood or harm, a person's identity ought to be his business and not yours.
Languages and the words we use for minorities evolve, and if a term is not the current, accepted English term, then it's reasonable to presume that a person who insists on some other term is doing so in order to be controversial or offensive, or to be expressing in a backhanded way his disapproval of social progress.
There's also just old farts, I'm willing to bet my Grandmother never referred to Black Americans as anything other than negroes or colored people. She died in the 80s in her 70s. For her age, she wasn't especially racist, just old and a foreigner.
Then there is my use of Black instead of African American as the descendants of slaves in the US are a distinct ethnic group and I feel African American lacks necessary clarity in most cases.
But for the most part you are right, insisting on using the outdated term is mostly just a troll move.
None of which is really about wokeness. Part of wokeness is performing righteous indignation on the part of someone else. Someone who may not themselves be indignant, and who probably doesn't need you to perform indignation for them even if they were. "Latinx", for example. Turns out Latinos are not, by and large, bothered by the conventional terms. It's an invention by wokesters - cargo-cult activism, as I like to call it.
An actual Muslim tells me, "hey man, I find the term 'Moslem' offensive, and I'd rather you didn't use it on me or around me", I'm going to respect that. That's not wokeness, that's just personal preference. Even if his reasoning is essentially woke propaganda in nature, I'm not inquiring into that. It suffices that he'd rather I didn't.
But white-ass wine mom karen pretendian REEEs at me about how offensive "Moslem" is to Some of My Best Friends Are Muslim? That's woke.
Funny. I've heard as many different definitions of the word "woke" as I have interacted with people who use the term. There's someone at my other forum who firmly believes that "wokeness" is an "authoritarian religion" that will literally destroy society.
I'll second what theprestige wrote. I've never heard it called woke if an actual black complains that someone else called him names or whatnot, or if an actual trans is complaining about discrimination or such. One might or might not think the complaint has merit, but I don't think many assume that anyone needs any particular awakening (which is what "woke" implies) to see their own problem.
And yes, it's getting to be rather ridiculous. We've gotten to the point where some pasty white males can accuse a black woman of racism and/or sexism (or at least imply that she is) if she doesn't want them talking on her behalf.
It's getting to be like in the old joke about little Johnny coming to school half an hour late, and excusing himself as, "I helped an old lady across the street."
"Yeah, well," says the teacher, "that's commendable, but I don't think that takes half an hour."
"It wouldn't," says Johnny, "except she kept saying she didn't want to and fighting back."
THAT is my impression of what the "woke" gang are doing at the moment
Also, I'm under the impression that it's INSTEAD of doing anything else that would actually matter. Hence the accusations of "virtue signalling."
Some years ago, Tim Minchin sang about people's "I'll give you 50 cents to take away my guilt" approach to charity, and then being more like "<bleep> the poor" the rest of the time.
Well, even that's passe. Now one can just bark on Twitter and get rid of that guilt for free. No need to actually donate or anything when one can just signal solidarity on Twitter instead, and be praised by others who also contributed only that.
Talk is cheap. *tap* *tap* *tap* *send* There, you too can feel like a Twitter hero.
Exactly how many shells do you think they bought for the defense of Ukraine out of someone's foaming at the mouth about people not calling Kyiv the right name?
Since WW2 was brought up, exactly how much longer would have Paris held or how much sooner would it have been liberated if the Brits just decided to change the way they pronounce it?
Edit: and at that, why even bother with real issues, when one could be instead help remove attention from those real issues and bark at whoever criticizes a corporation's latest movie or series instead? Why bother donating to the floods that affected three quarters of a BILLION people in central Africa just this summer, destroying some 35,000 houses and leaving 126,000 people homeless, when one could instead get far more praise for fighting on Twitter against Speedy Gonzales or against the injustice that Amazon was expected to hire competent script writers? Black elves matter, yo!
Funny. I've heard as many different definitions of the word "woke" as I have interacted with people who use the term. There's someone at my other forum who firmly believes that "wokeness" is an "authoritarian religion" that will literally destroy society.
He that you US should have an anti-racism board that would be composed of self selected anti-racist experts(not elected or appointed by elected officials) that would have the power to veto any law or regulation in enacted by any government in the US.
He that you US should have an anti-racism board that would be composed of self selected anti-racist experts(not elected or appointed by elected officials) that would have the power to veto any law or regulation in enacted by any government in the US.
He that you US should have an anti-racism board that would be composed of self selected anti-racist experts(not elected or appointed by elected officials) that would have the power to veto any law or regulation in enacted by any government in the US.
He that you US should have an anti-racism board that would be composed of self selected anti-racist experts(not elected or appointed by elected officials) that would have the power to veto any law or regulation in enacted by any government in the US.
It owns priceless pieces of art by the likes of Sidney Nolan, Russell Drysdale, Norman Lindsay, Tom Roberts and even Lucien Freud, as well as one of Australia's most recognisable masterpieces, Frederick McCubbin's Down on His Luck.
But if you were hoping to see any of these renowned treasures at the Art Gallery of Western Australia for much of the past two years, you'd have been disappointed.
Most of them haven't been on display at all.
In the past, AGWA has exhibited its historical jewels, encased in their elaborate gilt-edged frames, side-by-side in a dedicated gallery, where visitors could marvel at works by Heidelberg School greats and English Romantics alike.
Now it's taking a radically different approach, as director Colin Walker attempts to attract new audiences while wrestling with the ghosts of colonialism in a new age...
My personal opinion is that the use of the word "woke" in the headline is entirely inappropriate, since it is only an anonymous TripAdviser review that calls it "woke".
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