Will tariffs make America great?

Ah, turns out Amazon mulled over the idea of displaying tarrifs on one of its units, but discarded the idea, so it's a storm in a teacup.

"The company said its smaller Haul division, which competes for low-cost buyers with Temu and Shein, had mulled displaying import levies. "The team that runs our ultra low cost Amazon Haul store considered the idea of listing import charges on certain products. This was never approved and (is) not going to happen," a company spokesperson said, adding that "teams discuss ideas all the time.""

Amazon in White House crosshairs over report of displaying tariff costs - https://www.reuters.com/business/re...iff-price-announcement-is-hostile-2025-04-29/
 
I seem to recall a court case where the Supreme Court ruled that corporations were people with free speech rights, and that commercial activity constitutes speech. If you allow companies to be political, it might turn out that companies become political.
 
JayUtah said:
I seem to recall a court case where the Supreme Court ruled that corporations were people with free speech rights, and that commercial activity constitutes speech. If you allow companies to be political, it might turn out that companies become political.
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Oh let's face it...that was just to allow corporations to hand out money to politicians so they can make more money.
 
JayUtah said:
Stability is the sinew of modern manufacturing. I've spent the last three years on a new product line, two of it figuring out the manufacturing and validation processes. These are relatively simple items. But they're mission-critical in a life-safe application, so we have to be able to assure reliability by means of assurance in our processes. That requires being able to predict global supply lines and markets a number of years out. Previously we could do that. Now we can't. As a result, we have no idea how we're going to build these things according to a predictable cost and schedule. The President is yanking levers on a daily or weekly basis according to no discernible plan, the results of which require honest American businesses to retool processes that require literally months and years to validate.
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I've spent a chunk of time and effort setting up a virtual production line, with direct hand-offs from raw materials to final testing spanning 5 countries and 8 suppliers, needed to determine if a patent-candidate material design lives up to our vaunted expectations. This is coinciding with interest by a major firm who will want to see the goods. Much I fear that my production line will need serious re-work thanks to the same factors you mention. Bit of a sore spot, I daresay.
 
The Great Zaganza said:
Tarifs on China will move production to Vietnam etc., not the US
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I've talked about the impact the tariffs have had on the board game industry. There's apparently a good size manufacturing operation that was set up in Poland a number of years ago in anticipation of something like this happening.
 
P.J. Denyer said:
We know everything Trump does is motivated by personal animus so the question is, what does he have against China? Obvious really, unlike Dumpy, China managed to build their wall.
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He's always had that stupid way of saying it but there is more. His tariff guru has written many books about China taking over the world and destroying American manufacturing.
 
Odd that we don't hear much about the Wall any more. You'd think that if he had any object permanency he'd still be in favour of it.
 
www.nzherald.co.nz

US economy shrank in early 2025 as Trump tariffs sapped growth

Trump dismissed the negative GDP reading, calling it an 'overhang' from Biden's days.
www.nzherald.co.nz www.nzherald.co.nz

so the economy shrank 0.3% in the first q of 2025, all of the inventory stocking in prep of the tariffs that happened during the q included. now they're sending ships out empty and not booking anything back in.

a recession is defined as two consecutive qs of economic contraction, and it's applied retroactively. meaning that after 6 months of economic contraction, you've been in a recession for 6 months.

is there any light of hope that the second quarter economics improve? if so, what is it? or are we 3 months into a recession?
 
dirtywick said:
www.nzherald.co.nz

US economy shrank in early 2025 as Trump tariffs sapped growth

Trump dismissed the negative GDP reading, calling it an 'overhang' from Biden's days.
www.nzherald.co.nz www.nzherald.co.nz

so the economy shrank 0.3% in the first q of 2025, all of the inventory stocking in prep of the tariffs that happened during the q included. now they're sending ships out empty and not booking anything back in.

a recession is defined as two consecutive qs of economic contraction, and it's applied retroactively. meaning that after 6 months of economic contraction, you've been in a recession for 6 months.

is there any light of hope that the second quarter economics improve? if so, what is it? or
are we 3 months into a recession?
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Yes and Trump only started the global trade war on 2 April so Q2 is going to be "interesting".
 
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