• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Will Beck run off the Teabaggers now?

rwguinn

Penultimate Amazing
Joined
Apr 24, 2003
Messages
11,098
Location
16 miles from 7 lakes
Unfortunately, the Physical Therapy clinic I go to has Fox on the lobby waiting room.
Today, I think I saw the man (Glenn Beck) do a backdoor attempt at defending Joseph McCarthy.
'the communists have taken over" and McCarthy was right seemed to be the theme...
 
On a tangent, I just unearthed some newspapers in my old house from 1954. The front page of the St. Louis Post Dispatch from June 4, 1954 has a large story headlined "Sentner and 3 Other Reds Given 5 Years in Prison" and another smaller story about Governor Dewey of NY making a statement that the McCarthy hearings are "disgraceful".
 
Beck's tactics have continued to parallel McCarthyism. If his supporters haven't left him before, they're not going to leave him now.
 
I saw that, Glen Beck was on when I was eating dinner. I have a relative that was somewhat involved with the McCarthy hearing. He was the main aid to one of the Senators. I was thinking I might pick up the book mentioned on the show to see if my relative was mentioned.
 
Unfortunately, the Physical Therapy clinic I go to has Fox on the lobby waiting room.
Today, I think I saw the man (Glenn Beck) do a backdoor attempt at defending Joseph McCarthy.
'the communists have taken over" and McCarthy was right seemed to be the theme...

Why would that run off the tea party? Many of them already accuse the Obama administration of being nothing but communists and socialists.
 
Unfortunately, the Physical Therapy clinic I go to has Fox on the lobby waiting room.
Today, I think I saw the man (Glenn Beck) do a backdoor attempt at defending Joseph McCarthy.
'the communists have taken over" and McCarthy was right seemed to be the theme...
This is mainstream teabagger. Look at the Texas textbook controversy.
What was McCarthy wrong about?
Words fail.

Daredelvis
 
Didn't Coulter try to mount a defense of McCarthyism in one of books? My impression was that the defense was generally well received by the more extreme right wing folks. BAC, IIRC, has been favorable to McCarthyism in recent years.

I don't think McCarthyism is as much of a dirty word for the wing nuts as it is for more sane people.
 
Freedom of speech. If someone is a communist it's their business.

And further, being accused of being a communist is not the same as evidence of being a communist.

Edward R Murrow said:
Earlier, the Senator asked, "Upon what meat does this, our Caesar, feed?" Had he looked three lines earlier in Shakespeare's Caesar, he would have found this line, which is not altogether inappropriate: "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars, but in ourselves."

No one familiar with the history of this country can deny that congressional committees are useful. It is necessary to investigate before legislating, but the line between investigating and persecuting is a very fine one and the junior Senator from Wisconsin has stepped over it repeatedly. His primary achievement has been in confusing the public mind, as between the internal and the external threats of Communism. We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. We must remember always that accusation is not proof and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law. We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men -- not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate and to defend causes that were, for the moment, unpopular.
(source)

That, bynmdsue, is what McCarthy was wrong about.
 
Could someone please change the thread title? I keep seeing it wrong, and clicking in excitement because I think it's about David Beckham teabagging someone. You can imagine my disappointment when I discover my mistake.
 
Were there Communists in the State Department?
Since we're just asking questions:

Were all the people accused of being communists actually communists?

Was it illegal to be a communist in the state department?

Was it illegal to be a communist anywhere in the United States?
 
Unfortunately, the Physical Therapy clinic I go to has Fox on the lobby waiting room.
Today, I think I saw the man (Glenn Beck) do a backdoor attempt at defending Joseph McCarthy.
'the communists have taken over" and McCarthy was right seemed to be the theme...


There's an interesting piece over at Think Progress about Beck's use of McCarthy, the Civil Right's movement, & Ezra Benson. I'd post the link, but apparently I'm not active enough yet to have that ability. Guess I need to start playing in the sandbox more.

The way Beck twists history to promote his particular brand of crazy makes Palin look like a regular scholar.

:eek:
 
There's an interesting piece over at Think Progress about Beck's use of McCarthy, the Civil Right's movement, & Ezra Benson. I'd post the link, but apparently I'm not active enough yet to have that ability. Guess I need to start playing in the sandbox more.

The way Beck twists history to promote his particular brand of crazy makes Palin look like a regular scholar.

:eek:
Follow the money.
 
Were there Communists in the State Department?

FWIW:
Of the 159 persons listed above, there is substantial evidence that nine assisted Soviet espionage against the United States: Lauchlin Currie, Harold Glasser, Gerald Graze, Standley Graze, Many Jane Keeney, David Karr, Robert T. Miller, Franz Neumann, and William Remington. David Zablodowsky is a tenth ambiguous case.

Some of the others were security risks. To say that someone was a security risk is not to say that that person is a proven or even most likely a Soviet espionage source. It is only to say that in matters of national security “better safe than sorry” is a principle. Risks should be minimized by excluding those persons from employment in positions where they would have access to sensitive information.
(source)

What's the saying? Even a blind sow finds an acorn every once in a while.

McCarty's zealotry was far more harmful to the US than it was helpful. Ironically, McCarthy was in some ways more un-American than those he chased.
 
Last edited:

Back
Top Bottom