Why truthers are dangerouse!

[johnny karate]

Try again what? You asked for a citation. I gave you one.

You're citation was retarded. But since you weren't specifically instructed to provide a non-retarded citation, I guess you have a point.

I suggest you study how covert operations work rather than blathering on about "twoofs" like a nine year old (apologies if you are nine, in which case, don't give up on your writing yet. You've got potential).

Trutherism #24: DO UR RESERCH!!!11!


Is JREF running a contest this month to see who can make the worst argument? Seriously, I've heard five year-olds give better justifications for the existence of Santa Claus.

 

[funk de fino]

I suggest you study how covert operations work rather than blathering on about "twoofs" like a nine year old (apologies if you are nine, in which case, don't give up on your writing yet. You've got potential).

I suggest you have no idea what you are talking about here. You read fantasy crap from Ruppert.

 

[JihadJane]

So my "moralistic stance" (i.e. my aversion to unapologetic liars) could be interpreted as a way of avoiding answering questions from – and thereby avoiding legitimising and providing free logic tuition to – an unapologetic liar. Well, yes, I suppose it jolly well could!

I've asked you a simple question. I wouldn't expect to have to pay for the answer.

 

[johnny karate]

I've asked you a simple question. I wouldn't expect to have to pay for the answer.

You've been asked several simple questions. I wouldn't expect anyone but a dishonest fraud to want reciprocation for something they themselves refuse to do.

 

[TruthersLie]

Try again what? You asked for a citation. I gave you one. Turn off your automatic pilot, calm down and think a new thought!

See, when I asked for a citation, I meant to a reasonably possible scenerio, not da "magic man done it" answer. Thank you for showing a lack of critical reading comprehension. Your citation does not address the question asked. Massive fail.

I suggest you study how covert operations work rather than blathering on about "twoofs" like a nine year old (apologies if you are nine, in which case, don't give up on your writing yet. You've got potential).

Been there, done that. I have forgotten more about covert operations than you will ever know. Again and again... people talk. It happens all over the world. It happens ALL the time. I have great friends who work for interesting multi letter agencies, and every once in a while they will brag about something over a beer, or tell me they wished they didn't do something. Not enough for me to know SPECIFICALLY what it is, but enough to figure it out. Yet it is amazing that NO ONE HAS EVER come forward and said... boy I did something that doesn't make sense on 9/11. Why is that?

Did you learn nothing from the last round of lying war propaganda?

Since when was desiring or creating nuclear weapons (your unproven hypothesis) a capital offense? Would you support the bombing the USA or Israel, for example?

ROFLMAO. Yes twoofie. Iran has absolutely nothing but the interests of happily sharing nuclear power with the world on their minds. You don't allow states which have stated repeatedly that they want to "wipe" any country off the map the ability to do so.

Your careless wielding of "antisemite" as a playground insult merely serves to dilute the word's power. The same goes for your accusation of "neonazi".

careless? boylln (sp) is most definately an antisemite and a bigot. Anyone who will call him an independent journalist and rank themselves together has branded themselves an antisemite..

try again.

Faux racism describes exactly what you are doing. Faux racism is sarcastic by definition. Do you get a thrill from writing those naughty words?

Not particularly... but since it is intended to show just how stupid and silly the person I was answering is, it completes its objective.

 

[jmh423]

Here's what the buffoons that live on this forum 24-7 trying feverishly to hold up the laughable "official conspiracy theory" which was scripted by the Bush administration and press released minutes after the attacks, would have us all believe:

"Directed by a bearded guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah. Then using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew and passengers. Then, hangover or not, they manage to give the worlds most sophisticated air defence system the slip leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls and score direct hits on two towers causing THREE to collapse completely." There is no end to the evil craftiness of these swarthy Islamoterrorfascist demons!! God help us all.

Makes sense to me....LOL

 

[Whiplash]

I wouldn't be surprised if someone did have a problem believing "that". Too bad it's a insanely dishonest and hyperbolic mis-representation of what really happened. And it's written in a manner to purposely cause that level of disbelief.

This is why people call you truthers dishonest and liars. Because you are, for the most part. You spin and twist the story to make it as unbelievable as possible, and then consider that it's actually a strong point for why 9-11 was an inside job. It's so ridiculous it's laughable. It's simple incredulity. It's not evidence of anything.

The sad thing is, there will come a day for you, as there has for most CT believers (including many on this forum, such as myself), where you will suddenly come to realize that everything you ever believed is utter tripe and nonsense. And it's a rude awakening, especially the longer that it takes you to come to that realization. I only hope that for some of you, it comes sooner rather than later. Or you'll be feeling really depressed and stupid for a long, long time.. as you contemplate the fools you made of yourselves.

 

[johnny karate]

Here's what the buffoons that live on this forum 24-7 trying fever would have us all believe:

"Directed by a bearded guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah. Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, And hangover or not, they manage to give the worlds most sophisticated air defence system the slip leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls and score direct hits on two towers causing THREE to collapse completely."

Makes sense to me....LOL

Oh look, ill-informed personal incredulity from a Truther.

How refreshing.

If you need me, I'll be over here with the rest of the world, finding everything you say completely unconvincing.

 

[carlitos]

jmh423, does your high school have a straw man bowling league? Maybe you could start one.

But thanks for reminding me that some Muslims get lap dances. Really, I never would have known that, just trying to keep my head down and not make eye contact at those places.

 

[Unsecured Coins]

Here's what the buffoons that live on this forum 24-7 trying fever would have us all believe:

"Directed by a bearded guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah. Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, And hangover or not, they manage to give the worlds most sophisticated air defence system the slip leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls and score direct hits on two towers causing THREE to collapse completely."

Makes sense to me....LOL

And here's your version.

Thousands of people are keeping quiet about their roles in the greatest false flag operation in history. The people who planted bombs are silent. The firemen who are guilty of "at least manslaughter" are silent. NORAD stood down but somehow shot down Flight 93 and the debris was planted. The person who fired the missile at the Pentagon remains silent as are the people who also planted plane debris in that building. Plane parts were strewn about NYC too, because there were no planes that hit the tower, but if there were, they were remote controlled drone holograms with no passengers inside. Hijackers? Pfft.... they didn't exist. It's unpossible for someone to hijack a plane. In all, no one died on 9/11, it was all big fraud, and thank the FSM that youtube exists, because without it, the truth movement would be even smaller than it is now.

you sicken me

 

[twinstead]

"Directed by a bearded guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah. Using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew, And hangover or not, they manage to give the worlds most sophisticated air defence system the slip leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls and score direct hits on two towers causing THREE to collapse completely."

The very epitome of Straw Man. This is textbook stuff, from the racism of the first sentence to the texas sharpshooter fallacy in the last. This post is stunning in its stupidity. Stunning.

 

[jmh423]

"Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001."

 

[Unsecured Coins]

OMG Inside Jorb!!

 

[carlitos]

A google search of the phrase above yielded the predictable links to the comments sections of 911blogger, infowars, etc. More dots that truthers need to connect. If they aren't dangerouse, maybe they are just lazy I guess with this copy / paste argument style.

 

[twinstead]

"Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001."

Well. there ya go. That is rock-solid evidence of inside job. Got a link?

 

[carlitos]

I just shredded my receipts from 2001. Inside Jobby-Job!

ETA - I just read this original 'story' at 911blogger. I want my 5 minutes back.

 

[johnny karate]

"Turner Construction, who supervised the 2000 demolition of the Seattle Kingdome, participated in the post-9/11 Ground Zero clean-up and performed extensive renovations within the World Trade Center towers just prior to 9/11, was in fact performing unspecified renovation work throughout the WTC complex until the very morning of September 11, 2001. The Port Authority of NY/NJ now claims that records describing such work or other projects were destroyed on September 11, 2001."

I see someone has been rooting through the dumpster of debunked Truther nonsense.

Here's the post I used to annihilate your crony RedIbis when he made this same moronic claim six months ago. I checked the expiration date, and it turns out it's still moronic.

Back into the dumpster you go.

 

[GlennB]

Here's what the buffoons that live on this forum 24-7 trying feverishly to hold up the laughable "official conspiracy theory" which was scripted by the Bush administration and press released minutes after the attacks, would have us all believe:

"Directed by a bearded guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah. Then using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew and passengers. Then, hangover or not, they manage to give the worlds most sophisticated air defence system the slip leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls and score direct hits on two towers causing THREE to collapse completely." There is no end to the evil craftiness of these swarthy Islamoterrorfascist demons!! God help us all.

Makes sense to me....LOL

Yes, but that's because you're a total wanker.

 

[funk de fino]

Here's what the buffoons that live on this forum 24-7 trying feverishly to hold up the laughable "official conspiracy theory" which was scripted by the Bush administration and press released minutes after the attacks, would have us all believe:

"Directed by a bearded guy from a cave in Afghanistan, nineteen hard-drinking, coke-snorting, devout Muslims enjoy lap dances before their mission to meet Allah. Then using nothing more than craft knifes, they overpower cabin crew and passengers. Then, hangover or not, they manage to give the worlds most sophisticated air defence system the slip leaving their "How to Fly a Passenger Jet" guide in the car at the airport, they master the controls and score direct hits on two towers causing THREE to collapse completely." There is no end to the evil craftiness of these swarthy Islamoterrorfascist demons!! God help us all.

Makes sense to me....LOL

You should stop telling lies, its not nice.

 

[jmh423]

From a recent article by D.R. Griffin:

Were bin Laden and al-Qaeda Capable of Orchestrating the Attacks?

"For prosecutors to prove that defendants committed a crime, they must show that they had the ability (as well as the motive and opportunity) to do so. But several political and military leaders from other countries have stated that bin Laden and al-Qaeda simply could not have carried out the attacks. General Leonid Ivashov, who in 2001 was the chief of staff for the Russian armed forces, wrote:

Only secret services and their current chiefs—or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations—have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude. . . . . Osama bin Laden and “Al Qaeda” cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the September 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders.


Mohamed Hassanein Heikal, the former foreign minister of Egypt, wrote:

Bin Laden does not have the capabilities for an operation of this magnitude. When I hear Bush talking about al-Qaida as if it was Nazi Germany or the communist party of the Soviet Union, I laugh because I know what is there.


Similar statements have been made by Andreas von Bülow, the former state secretary of West Germany’s ministry of defense, by General Mirza Aslam Beg, former chief of staff of Pakistan’s army, and even General Musharraf, the president of Pakistan until recently.

This same point was also made by veteran CIA agent Milt Bearden. Speaking disparagingly of “the myth of Osama bin Laden” on CBS News the day after 9/11, Bearden said: “I was there [in Afghanistan] at the same time bin Laden was there. He was not the great warrior.” With regard to the widespread view that bin Laden was behind the attacks, he said: “This was a tremendously sophisticated operation against the United States—more sophisticated than anybody would have ascribed to Osama bin Laden.” Pointing out that a group capable of such a sophisticated attack would have had a way to cover their tracks, he added: “This group who was responsible for that, if they didn’t have an Osama bin Laden out there, they’d invent one, because he’s a terrific diversion.”
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Now I realize that Dr. Griffin and those he cites in his essay are not of the same caliber as the advanced senior debunkers who inhabit this thread. Several of our JREF residents here have probably memorized the Davin Colburn-Ben Chertoff golden edition "debunking kit for professionals"..Some even claim to live in actual "Muslim Countries" if you can believe that and actually watch Al Jezzera every day. Pretty dog gone strong credentials I must admit!!

That said, I think that some consideration should also be given to people with high level international intel experience or those who have written 35 books and probably read 1000s more. I'm just sayin'...