Why the Continued Interest in Bigfoot on This Forum

[mikeyx]

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Why would they be told to not talk about seeing a mythical animal?

because it might not be so mythical

 

[BenBurch]

Cryptozoology in general is an "evergreen" because nothing in science actually rules out the existence of unknown large species. In fact we every so often find one. A new genus of tiny salamander was published recently. First new genus of four-legged fauna found in the USA in quite some time.

So what if there is no Nessy, or no Bigfoot? We cannot actually PROVE they do not exist any more than we can drain Loch Ness (which still would not constitute proof.)

So, its just going to keep coming up.

Personally, I am holding out for Mokele Mbembe.

 

[makaya325]

Cryptozoology in general is an "evergreen" because nothing in science actually rules out the existence of unknown large species. In fact we every so often find one. A new genus of tiny salamander was published recently. First new genus of four-legged fauna found in the USA in quite some time.

It is not science. Instead of focusing on smaller fauna or new species of rodents, insects, or small monkeys, cryptozoologists focus on finding large cryptids, most which can not maintain a breeding population or find enough food, while living undetected.

So what if there is no Nessy, or no Bigfoot? We cannot actually PROVE they do not exist.

You can not prove a negative.

any more than we can drain Loch Ness (which still would not constitute proof.)

Yes it would, due to the fact that a large species of reptile has nowhere to escape the loch.

Please quote other posters properly and do not take posts out of context.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[makaya325]

because it might not be so mythical

Oh its mythical alright.

 

[rockinkt]

They were told to keep their mouths shut by superiors . Gordon only talked about it after he retired. Not sure about the other officer.

Sooo....This officer states that his superior officers purposely stopped what he was certain would have been a bona fide investigation into what the two officers thought was a creature that was dangerous to the public they had sworn to protect and serve...and he did nothing?

Neither of the officers thought that their sworn duty to protect the public was worth spit?

Based on the story given - both officers were either pathetic cowards or liars.

 

[desertgal]

You can not prove a negative.

You edited a quote so you could respond to it with precisely the same point that the quote made before you edited it.

 

[WGBH]

Sooo....This officer states that his superior officers purposely stopped what he was certain would have been a bona fide investigation into what the two officers thought was a creature that was dangerous to the public they had sworn to protect and serve...and he did nothing?

Neither of the officers thought that their sworn duty to protect the public was worth spit?

Based on the story given - both officers were either pathetic cowards or liars.

I find it odd that you think that people who tell about their Bigfoot encounters are taken seriously. Even police officers. Why does that shock you?

 

[GT/CS]

I find it odd that you think that people who tell about their Bigfoot encounters are taken seriously. Even police officers. Why does that shock you?

Please elaborate, because what you wrote makes no sense.

 

[WGBH]

Please elaborate, because what you wrote makes no sense.

What don't you get? Walk up to your boss and tell him you saw a Bigfoot crossing the road and see what happens.

 

[makaya325]

What don't you get? Walk up to your boss and tell him you saw a Bigfoot crossing the road and see what happens.

Employee: Hey boss, I have something to tell you

hairy Boss: What?

Employee: I saw a bigfoot cross the road tuesday night

Boss: No you didnt son, you saw without my shirt on carrying a bucket of KFC....wait a minute...you making fun of me!!!

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

What don't you get? Walk up to your boss and tell him you saw a Bigfoot crossing the road and see what happens.

With all due respect John, thats simply not correct in the LE world.

In that scenario referred to, the officers dont have to say "bigfoot"- they could just as easily say a large animal like a bear and call DNR or a suspicious person or whatever. Either would trigger an official looksee and then if the investigators found footprints or anything else- there it is

Or, if they found nothing at all ( many incidents result in this but it was "documented"- lots of prowlers leave no evidence)

Rock's right. If it was a legitimate incident and not a war story- theres no excuse I would accept for them not following department process. Actually, if I were their supervisor, I would reprimand them for NOT doing their job.

 

[makaya325]

Actually, if I were their supervisor, I would reprimand them for NOT doing their job.

Which would be?

a. following guidelines as a police officer

b. Reporting a fantastic story of a big, pink unicorn?

 

[WGBH]

With all due respect John, thats simply not correct in the LE world.

In that scenario referred to, the officers dont have to say "bigfoot"- they could just as easily say a large animal like a bear and call DNR or a suspicious person or whatever. Either would trigger an official looksee and then if the investigators found footprints or anything else- there it is

Or, if they found nothing at all ( many incidents result in this but it was "documented"- lots of prowlers leave no evidence)

Rock's right. If it was a legitimate incident and not a war story- theres no excuse I would accept for them not following department process. Actually, if I were their supervisor, I would reprimand them for NOT doing their job.

Fair enough, but normal rules usually do not apply when you say the B word. You should try it yourself sometime and see the reaction you get. I also think the sighting happened in the 70's. Things were different then.

 

[SezMe]

Yes it does, thank you kk.

Please don't call Kitakaze "kk". We have one of those here and even the inadvertent linkage makes a bit of bile come up.

 

[SezMe]

Kit,

I would prefer you did not include my name in the same sentence with hoaxers.

Thanks

For those of us not in the know, who are you? Please use forum nics so that folks other than insiders can follow the story.

 

[SezMe]

The encounter involved not one but TWO police officers. The creature was witnessed at close range in the headlights of the squad car. The creature was on TWO legs and walked across the road in only four steps and stepped over a guard railing and into the wood line. Dan Gordon got out of the car, but his partner was too frightened to follow. He pulled his revolver from the holster. He went to the tree line and could still here the creature walking away. This is one of the most credible encounter stories I have heard.

In that case -

 

[makaya325]

because it might not be so mythical

And you think this..?

 

[rockinkt]

I find it odd that you think that people who tell about their Bigfoot encounters are taken seriously. Even police officers. Why does that shock you?

I find it odd that you think that all sasquatch reports are of such a dubious nature that they do not get taken seriously.
I investigated two reported sasquatch incidents when I was a police officer. One I concluded was a hoax (based on the hoaxed tracks) and the the other leaves me still wondering to this day.

In the second case - neither I nor the lead investigator could state that it was our opinion that the witness was mistaken or lying. Actually - we both concluded that he could have been telling the truth - although there was no corroborating evidence.
The case was left unresolved although it was officially "concluded" after 6 months as there was no further investigative avenues that could have been followed with the information at hand.

I did not receive these reports and decide to investigate them on my own - they were reported and went through the official channels and were assigned.
In the first case - I was the guy that got the file. The second investigation was assigned to another officer. I was asked to provide assistance in the second case due to my tracking skills and bush knowledge.

In both cases - the investigations followed proper protocols and were signed off at the conclusion by the officers involved and their supervisors.

edit: I would like to emphasize that there is a lot of macho BS and joking and war stories passed around in the world of LE - but you sign your name to an official report and make it part of the system - it is no longer a joke. Period.

 

[WGBH]

Rocknkt,

Of course you know better what goes on in law enforcement. I do not think it always happens especially nowadays. I respect your level of professionalism But, this happened in the 1970's in Whitehall NY. Just listen to one of Mr Gordon's many radio and TV interview's.

 

[kitakaze]

Rocknkt,

Of course you know better what goes on in law enforcement. I do not think it always happens especially nowadays. I respect your level of professionalism But, this happened in the 1970's in Whitehall NY. Just listen to one of Mr Gordon's many radio and TV interview's.

I would like to do that. Do you have a link? The one that I found was dead.