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Why not war against Islam?

Toontown said:
Any leftist ideologue can speak for you. Neoleftism is like a whale song - all the whales know it by heart and repeat it endlessly.

Blessed be the name of the Dogma.
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I think it is time that you get put in the dungeon with others of your ilk.

Ta-ta!
 
I think it's absolutely terrible that you're being forced to post repeatedly in a thread whose topic you know nothing about and have no interest in whatsoever, Toontown.
 
Toontown said:
Any leftist ideologue can speak for you. Neoleftism is like a whale song - all the whales know it by heart and repeat it endlessly.

Blessed be the name of the Dogma. For the Dogma stands beneath thy bedroom window and barks; and ye shall have no peace, niether shall ye sleep, until ye have said, blessed be the name of the Dogma.
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Submit to our superior dogma or Cthulhu will breath you in and fart you out.
 
ANTPogo said:
I think it's absolutely terrible that you're being forced to post repeatedly in a thread whose topic you know nothing about and have no interest in whatsoever, Toontown.
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The topic is irrelevant, having long since been buried and forgotten. I'm studying the local fauna.
 
bikerdruid said:
what cleon and dc said!
why would toontown continue about islam, when he has said he has no interest in learning about it.
arguing from ignorance seems fruitless.
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True, I am uninterested in all the tedious little conflicting details concerning the beliefs and interpretations of various Islamic sects. Nor have I had anything much to say about such tedious details, other than to correctly note the various meanings of the term "jihad", much to the chagrin of my inquisitor of the moment, who was bent on falsely presenting the term as meaning nothing more than a personal spiritural struggle, in a clearly bogus and dishonest attempt to display my ignorance.

Most of my posts have been aimed at the muleheaded attempts by some posters to both stubbornly misrepresent the OP and to deflect the subject matter away from the psychological foibles of Muslims, and back onto the accustomed whipping boy of Christianity.
 
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Toontown said:
Nor have I had anything much to say about such tedious details, other than to correctly note the various meanings of the term "jihad", much to the chagrin of my inquisitor of the moment, who was bent on falsely presenting the term as meaning nothing more than a personal spiritural struggle, in a clearly bogus and dishonest attempt to display my ignorance.
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Which thread was that in?

Most of my posts have been aimed at the muleheaded attempts by some posters to both stubbornly misrepresent the OP and to deflect the subject matter away from the psychological foibles of Muslims, and back onto the accustomed whipping boy of Christianity.
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Defending Christianity again, huh?
 
Toontown said:
True, I am uninterested in all the tedious little conflicting details concerning the beliefs and interpretations of various Islamic sects. Nor have I had anything much to say about such tedious details, other than to correctly note the various meanings of the term "jihad", much to the chagrin of my inquisitor of the moment, who was bent on falsely presenting the term as meaning nothing more than a personal spiritural struggle, in a clearly bogus and dishonest attempt to display my ignorance.
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I quoted Mark6 so that your words would have context. He didn't use 'jihad' -- you used that word. Mark6 used: 'war against infidels'.

You can make what you like of that. But as you 'watch the fauna', they are watching you. And they can decide for themselves whether you are prone to making self-serving interpretations of things you don't like.

Most of my posts have been aimed at the muleheaded attempts by some posters to both stubbornly misrepresent the OP and to deflect the subject matter away from the psychological foibles of Muslims, and back onto the accustomed whipping boy of Christianity.
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And some of your posts have been admitting that you have no interests in the tedious details of Islam. The topic being "Why not a war against Islam". So thanks, I suppose, for highlighting armageddonman's words which "like silent raindrops fall, and echo in the well of silence".

Now why get onto the topic of waging war against a religion without waging war on its adherents?

Oh, and while correcting our understanding of the OP, I guess you're not interested in the 'tedious details of Islam' that the OP claims.
 
FireGarden said:
Now why get onto the topic of waging war against a religion without waging war on its adherents?
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It's kind of interesting that we're actually waging war against millions of the adherents (under the Barack 'stealth Muslim' Obama adminstration we've bombed half-a-dozen countries, all Muslim, and are at war with three of them) of a religion we're discussing making war on peacefully.
 
Mister Agenda said:
It's kind of interesting that we're actually waging war against millions of the adherents (under the Barack 'stealth Muslim' Obama adminstration we've bombed half-a-dozen countries, all Muslim, and are at war with three of them) of a religion we're discussing making war on peacefully.
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but those are the Muslims that interpret their religion correctly :D
 
If I'm counting it right, this is the UK's fourth Afghan War. The first one saw a total wipeout of the British garrison in Kabul. The one in the 1880s inspired Rudyard Kipling to write in "The Young British Soldier":

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains
And the women come out to cut up what remains
Just roll to your rifle and blow out your brains
And go to your Gawd like a soldier.

So it wasn't much fun either. Leave the goddam place alone, say I.
 
FireGarden said:
I quoted Mark6 so that your words would have context. He didn't use 'jihad' -- you used that word. Mark6 used: 'war against infidels'.
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And multiple dictionaries give "war against infidels" as one of the meanings of "jihad". Leaving you pointless, for the second time. Not to mention fumbling the ball on one of those tedious details you've apparently invested a great deal of ill-spent time learning all about.

FireGarden said:
You can make what you like of that.
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Thank you very much. I just did. For the second time. Damn, are we having fun, or what. I don't see how you people can stand this much fun. How do your hearts not explode from pure, heart-stopping joy when you're having this much fun?

FireGarden said:
But as you 'watch the fauna', they are watching you. And they can decide for themselves whether you are prone to making self-serving interpretations of things you don't like.
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Yeah, those dictionary definitions I posted were quite useful as self-serving interpretations. They conjured up those definitions just for me.

FireGarden said:
And some of your posts have been admitting that you have no interests in the tedious details of Islam. The topic being "Why not a war against Islam". So thanks, I suppose, for highlighting armageddonman's words which "like silent raindrops fall, and echo in the well of silence".
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You could go back and find the post where I clarified the question posed by armageddonman after numerous misrepresentations by several posters. Then you could find the post where armageddonman thanked me for doing that. Then you could continue through the thread and see where nothing armageddonman said had any effect whatsoever on the mini multitude of staunch "Not all Muslims believe that!" criers.

Or, you could continue your wholly nonproductive jihad of anti-Toontown-speak. And your words, like silent raindrops will fall, and will echo in the well of silence.

FireGarden said:
Now why get onto the topic of waging war against a religion without waging war on its adherents?
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And there you go again. That wasn't actually the topic, as armageddonman repeatedly tried to point out, and as I eventually tried to point out. All to no avail.

You could even go back and read the post wherein I rephrased the question posed by the armageddonman, later endorsed by armageddonman. Then perhaps you might, at long last, understand the question that was posed.

Or, you could continue your blind jihad of anti-Toontown-speak. And your words, like silent raindrops will fall, and will echo in the well of silence.

FireGarden said:
Oh, and while correcting our understanding of the OP, I guess you're not interested in the 'tedious details of Islam' that the OP claims.
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Trust me on this. Correcting your dishonestly and willfully inadequate reading comprehension does not require knowledge of any tedious details of any false religion.
 
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Toontown said:
Yeah, those dictionary definitions I posted were quite useful as self-serving interpretations. They conjured up those definitions just for me.
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You found interpretations of my position in those dictionaries? Or are you going to go on and on about how Jihad can mean this and that and you've always known?

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7462365&postcount=543

Mark6 said:
You are asking why the rather small minority of Mulsims who take the call for war against infidels literally, be surprised that infidels attack them?
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Now, if you had responded with: "A rather small minority of Muslims call for jihad" I could accept you were merely using 'jihad' to mean 'war against infidels'. That can be done.

But your resonse was: "The call for jihad is the centerpiece of the religion."

Now there is a problem. Yes, many Muslims see jihad as the centrepiece of their religion. But Jihad can mean things other than war against infidels. And -- no -- you did not mean to include that in your statement. How do I know this?

Because you went on to ask: "If the majority of Muslims disagree, then why do they even bother with the ancient benighted belief system?" making it clear that you are taking issue with Mark6's claim that only a minority of Muslims call for war against infidels.

The only reason you used 'jihad' was so that you could make your first sentence without worrying about being contradicted. Then you proceeded to question Mark6 on his claim while pretending you were talking about the same topic.

Now, please, go on with your strawman:

Toontown said:
True, I am uninterested in all the tedious little conflicting details concerning the beliefs and interpretations of various Islamic sects. Nor have I had anything much to say about such tedious details, other than to correctly note the various meanings of the term "jihad", much to the chagrin of my inquisitor of the moment, who was bent on falsely presenting the term as meaning nothing more than a personal spiritural struggle, in a clearly bogus and dishonest attempt to display my ignorance.
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If you had been ignorant, then that would have been one thing. This is actually worse. You knew that Jihad can mean things other than war against infidels. So you knew that 'war against infidels' is not, according to many Muslims, the centrepiece of their religion -- even though Jihad may be. But you used 'jihad is the centrepiece of their religion' to question Mark6's claim that only a minority of Muslims call for a war against infidels.

You are worse than ignorant. You are intellectually dishonest. Which is not surprising, since you have already admitted to being intellectually lazy -- I won't bore you with the tedious details of how I reached that conclusion.

You could even go back and read the post wherein I rephrased the question posed by the armageddonman, later endorsed by armageddonman. Then perhaps you might, at long last, understand the question that was posed.

Or, you could continue your blind jihad of anti-Toontown-speak. And your words, like silent raindrops will fall, and will echo in the well of silence.



Trust me on this. Correcting your dishonestly and willfully inadequate reading comprehension does not require knowledge of any tedious details of any false religion.
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So this isn't about waging war against a religion without waging war on its adherents?

Why don't you find me those posts. And the ones where you take control of all the topics which arose as the thread developed.
 
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I love how people are supporting Islam here because of the good law-abiding Muslims in their neighborhood. Your ignorance is showing. You might want to think about fixing that.
 
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