I haven't stated that pants wearing women are worthy of death and I haven't told those of mixed race that they are abominations. An abomination is a behavior not a person and like a child born illegitmately, a mixed race person is not responsible for the sinful lifestyle choices of their parents. I don't want anyone dead, I want those that are living in sin to repent so they may be saved, receiving from the Creator the awesome gift of eternal life. Everyone has the opportunity to repent of their sins and be saved no matter who they are including the homosexual and it is out of love not hate that I preach this message.
I will have to review the original thread, but you have indeed stated, I am pretty sure, that those of mixed race should not be born, because they are contrary to god's will. You have certainly made it plain both through statements and innuendo that you believe interracial marriage is an actual abomination. You have also stated that homosexuals are deserving of death. What the hell do you think that statement actually means? It does not mean that they deserve punishment from god when they die. It means that you believe that they ought to die, that if justice were served, they would be killed. That is what that statement means, and if you do not understand that, then you are a liar and a fool as well as a bigot.
Perhaps I have not made myself clear enough here, so I will make myself as clear as I possibly can. I am certainly willing to tolerate all sorts of bizarre and even hateful ideas, without calling their holder names, but there are limits. I don't want to invoke Godwin's law if I can help it, and am old enough to remember the McCarthy-era roots of the
argumentum ad anam (if it walks like a duck, etc.), but there comes a point where those ideas are so odious, their expression so loathsome, and their target so personal, that they must be seen as representing your character.
So let me make myself very clear here, so you understand where I'm coming from.
My daughter, whom I love and respect, is a lesbian. Do you, Xenon, avow that she (not in the abstract, but she, the person) deserves death? Your statements cause me deep personal offense. Stand by what you mean. Retract it or tell it straight.
My wife, whom I love and respect, and to whom I have been married for 19 years without snarky, disgustingly innuendo-ridden quotation marks, is Cuban born. Now her Catalan ancestry suggests to me that she's not a different race, but she surely is Hispanic. You have stated that such persons should not be in this country, and that they are harmful to our culture. Do you, Xenon, not in the abstract, but to the person, stand behind what you have said? Retract it or tell it straight.
My sister in law, whom I love and respect, and who is, by the way, a hard working teacher, honored by her peers and beloved by her students, is a half black Mexican. According to your statements of record, she should not have been born. Her very existence is an affront to god, and she should not be in this country either. Do you, Xenon, not in the abstract, but to the person, stand by what you have said? Retract it or tell it straight.
Her children, whom I love and respect, are, of course, of mixed race too. What of them? These are real people in the real world. Do you stand by what you say? Retract it or tell it straight.
My sister once loved a black man. As it happens, she did not marry him, and she's now dead so cannot defend herself, but in a time not so long ago that we can afford to forget it, she marched, stood firm, went to jail (nine times, as I recall), was beaten and injured, for principles of justice and humanity that you deride, but that she held dear, and I hold as the highest principles, not just in her memory, but because these are ideas and ideals I hold as sacred as anything. Do you, Xenon, now and to me, stand by what you have said? Retract it or tell it straight. Let us see what you are actually made of.
OK, so I tried not to bring in Godwin's law, but I cannot help but be reminded of a story told by a man who was not only a personal friend but one of my intellectual heroes, the philosopher Hans Jonas. Dr. Jonas was a Jew, living in Germany, during the 1930's. One day, he took a date out to a mountain bistro, and while there, a group of soldiers came in, and broke into the "Horst Wessel" song, or one similar, calling, among other things, for the destruction of the Jews. He stood up, and yelled out, "stop singing that song! It offends me!" Surprised, perhaps by the boldness of it, but also perhaps by the fact that they had not thought of those ideas in the particular, they stopped. But young Jonas also realized that one day they would not, and that he and his temper could no longer safely coexist with them. He left Germany, and unlike most of the rest of his family, survived.
So now I will say to Xenon, stop. You offend me.
