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Why I love Atheists!!

Sefarst said:
7. We don't wake you up at 7:00 AM on a Sunday morning after a night of drinking to go sing songs and stare at a ceiling.
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Pffft.. You are just out living a degnerate life of sin and debauchery, when you should be in church and worshiping the Lord. I'm sorry to inform you, you're soul is hellbound.
 
#13: I can have sex with whoever I like.
Your sister?

#16 I can have sex with whatever I like.
Your sisters pet goat?

I like atheists because most of them have a coherent morality that's not based on any carrot\stick influence from any source outside of their own head.

On the downside, when they're being sick out of a hotel window and you shout from under the duvet: "The power of christ compels you, the power of christ compels you!" they just mutter "No it doesn't" and carry on.
 
CriticalSock said:
#13: I can have sex with whoever I like.
Your sister?

#16 I can have sex with whatever I like.
Your sisters pet goat?

I like atheists because most of them have a coherent morality that's not based on any carrot\stick influence from any source outside of their own head.

On the downside, when they're being sick out of a hotel window and you shout from under the duvet: "The power of christ compels you, the power of christ compels you!" they just mutter "No it doesn't" and carry on.
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Re #16; You're right, it is my sisters Goat, but its a working goat. And working well I have to say..:D
 
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CriticalSock said:
#13: I can have sex with whoever I like.
Your sister?
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:D Ya got me. My statement was badly worded. My intention was to say that I have no religious prohibitions on having sex. I can have sex with a man or a woman, married or unmarried, so long as they also want to have sex with me. There's no such thing as "adultery" to an atheist. There is "breach of trust" though - don't get me wrong about that. But the consequences are far more immediate than some vague threat of punishment in the afterlife.

But what I said was shorter and I was feeling lazy.
 
arthwollipot said:
:D Ya got me. My statement was badly worded. My intention was to say that I have no religious prohibitions on having sex. I can have sex with a man or a woman, married or unmarried, so long as they also want to have sex with me.
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Fine, fine.
There's no such thing as "adultery" to an atheist. There is "breach of trust" though - don't get me wrong about that.
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Here's where you lose me. What is the distinction between "adultery" and "breach of trust" as it relates to an exclusive sexual relationship within marriage? I am an atheist. If my wife cheated on me, I would consider it a breach of trust, to be sure, but I would also consider it to be adultery. I wouldn't consider it to be a sin, I wouldn't pray for her soul, I wouldn't expect her to be punished by God, but there definitely is such a thing as "adultery" to this atheist.
But the consequences are far more immediate than some vague threat of punishment in the afterlife.
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Threats of punishment in the afterlife need not be vague. But they are imaginary!
 
arthwollipot said:
#13: I can have sex with whoever I like.
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Wow! Now there's the line to go with if you want to spread atheism!
arthwollipot said:
My statement was badly worded. My intention was to say that I have no religious prohibitions on having sex. I can have sex with a man or a woman, married or unmarried, so long as they also want to have sex with me.
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Ya boo! Only if they want to have sex with you? How's that any different from theism then (other than the guilt then repentance required in some varieties)?

I guess one should always read the small print!
 
linusrichard said:
Here's where you lose me. What is the distinction between "adultery" and "breach of trust" as it relates to an exclusive sexual relationship within marriage?
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Okay. We're getting into definitions territory here, and if you don't know this about me already, I'm pretty weird.

As it relates to an exclusive sexual relationship within marriage, there is not much functional difference between "adultery" and "breach of trust". But in alternative arrangements there certainly can be.

I pretty much define adultery as the sin that is prohibited by the Bible. No belief in the bible, no belief in sin, no adultery. However, when one has entered into an arrangement of trust with one's partner, breaching that trust has consequences - whether that is an arrangement of exclusive monogamy or otherwise.

Is this a little clearer? I am fully aware that the attitude I and my partners have to sex and relationships is quite unusual, so it's no problem to me to answer questions or provide (a reasonable amount of) detail. Have I clarified my statement at all?
 
Egg said:
Ya boo! Only if they want to have sex with you? How's that any different from theism then (other than the guilt then repentance required in some varieties)?
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Well, there's no conceptual barrier to me having sex with a married woman, for example.
 
articulett said:
there being no evidence for any invisible divine entities...
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I would go as far as saying about there being no gods, but that would derail the discussion.

But I love the fact that there is people who agree with me, who make me feel like I am not the only sane person in an insane world. (I concede that this would hold true even if we were wrong.)
 
Egg said:
Wow! Now there's the line to go with if you want to spread atheism!

Ya boo! Only if they want to have sex with you? How's that any different from theism then (other than the guilt then repentance required in some varieties)?
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Some people believe homosexuality will get you sent to hell. That's a bit more than simple "guilt and repentance". That's terror.
 
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