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Why Flight 93?

ok...I do think that 9/11 has so many questions...i do think wtc was controlled demolition....i dont think flight 77 hit pentagon....but why would the government hijack a plane to crash into a field....it dont make sense....what was gained from it
 
ok...I do think that 9/11 has so many questions...i do think wtc was controlled demolition....i dont think flight 77 hit pentagon....but why would the government hijack a plane to crash into a field....it dont make sense....what was gained from it
You do not have any facts; 77 did hit the Pentagon. And unless you have been brain dead for 6 years you know the passengers on flight 77 figured out 9/11 in a few minutes and stopped the terrorist. Your lack of facts is pathetic and disrespectful.

Welcome to the forum, you better bring facts next time.

Your post is most disrespectful due to your lack of facts and flippant attitude on flight 93. Pathetic.



Are you sure you are saying the right thing? Saying what you mean?
 
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ok...I do think that 9/11 has so many questions...i do think wtc was controlled demolition....i dont think flight 77 hit pentagon....but why would the government hijack a plane to crash into a field....it dont make sense....what was gained from it
Can you give an example of one of these questions?
 
ok...I do think that 9/11 has so many questions...i do think wtc was controlled demolition....i dont think flight 77 hit pentagon....but why would the government hijack a plane to crash into a field....it dont make sense....what was gained from it

It would be of great help in understanding where you are coming from, with respect to your believes on the 9/11 attacks, if you could provide why you believe the elements of the attacks you mention above were staged, what evidence convinced you, etc...

Welcome to the forum.

TAM:)
 
You do not have any facts; 77 did hit the Pentagon. And unless you have been brain dead for 6 years you know the passengers on flight 77 figured out 9/11 in a few minutes and stopped the terrorist. Your lack of facts is pathetic and disrespectful.

Welcome to the forum, you better bring facts next time.

Your post is most disrespectful due to your lack of facts and flippant attitude on flight 93. Pathetic.

and how did passengers on flight 77 stop 9/11
 
It would be of great help in understanding where you are coming from, with respect to your believes on the 9/11 attacks, if you could provide why you believe the elements of the attacks you mention above were staged, what evidence convinced you, etc...

Welcome to the forum.

TAM:)

well i just read about 14 books on the topic...and have seen many 9/11 documentaries...so many things just dont add up...Where was the military on 9/11....why did building 7 just fall....How was such a large scale attack taking place on the USA with the first plane crash at 8:46 and the last at 10:03 but no military intervention...i thought usa could protect themselves from this....
 
and i dont know why my post is disrespectful to flight 93 victims....I mean we should investigate what happened to the lives of those hard working honest american citizens....
 
well i just read about 14 books on the topic...
What quality of books? What were their sources? Were they written by experts in the fields they were discussing or did they consult experts? Have you only read ones that support one side?

I've read lots of books on Sherlock Holmes and Superman. Doesn't mean they exists.

and have seen many 9/11 documentaries...
As before: What quality of documentaries? What were their sources? Were they written by experts in the fields they were discussing or did they consult experts? Have you only seen ones that support one side?
so many things just dont add up...Where was the military on 9/11....
Were they missing or did they just not perform up to the standard set in the movies?
why did building 7 just fall....
Did it just fall?
How was such a large scale attack taking place on the USA with the first plane crash at 8:46 and the last at 10:03 but no military intervention...i thought usa could protect themselves from this....
"i thought"
Think about how you used that. There are people on this forum who can answer these questions for you, or you can search and find them here yourself.
 
What quality of books? What were their sources? Were they written by experts in the fields they were discussing or did they consult experts? Have you only read ones that support one side?

I've read lots of books on Sherlock Holmes and Superman. Doesn't mean they exists.

As before: What quality of documentaries? What were their sources? Were they written by experts in the fields they were discussing or did they consult experts? Have you only seen ones that support one side?Were they missing or did they just not perform up to the standard set in the movies? Did it just fall?
"i thought"
Think about how you used that. There are people on this forum who can answer these questions for you, or you can search and find them here yourself.


I am not a 9/11 truther nut,,,who wont except reasonable explanations for my questions...its just that they are reasonable questions....but I am always up for a lively discussion on this....and I am always respectful of everyones opinions...beliefs and findings.....
 
and i dont know why my post is disrespectful to flight 93 victims....I mean we should investigate what happened to the lives of those hard working honest american citizens....
It is. You have failed to study 9/11 and you do not know what happen to flight 93?

Flight 93 was investigated, the passengers tried to take the plane back from the terrorist. The terrorists crashed the plane. This is common knowledge, and only 9/11 truth members ( the people who make up lies about 9/11 ) do not agree with reality.

I am not sure if you are posting what you mean to say. There are many links in this forum to sites that have facts on 9/11; it appears from your posts you have picked up on the lies of 9/11 spread by "9/11 truth movement". 9/11 truth makes up lies and false information on 9/11.

There have been many investigation into 9/11. 9/11 truth has lied and they are making up false information to include the lie that there has not been an investigation. Where have you been for 6 years?
 
It is. You have failed to study 9/11 and you do not know what happen to flight 93?

Flight 93 was investigated, the passengers tried to take the plane back from the terrorist. The terrorists crashed the plane. This is common knowledge, and only 9/11 truth members ( the people who make up lies about 9/11 ) do not agree with reality.

I am not sure if you are posting what you mean to say. There are many links in this forum to sites that have facts on 9/11; it appears from your posts you have picked up on the lies of 9/11 spread by "9/11 truth movement". 9/11 truth makes up lies and false information on 9/11.

There have been many investigation into 9/11. 9/11 truth has lied and they are making up false information to include the lie that there has not been an investigation. Where have you been for 6 years?

ok and i am always up to dioscuss facts as I just said in last post...but I dont appreciate my posts being called pathetic or what i believe to be true...I am here for some intelligent converstation and that is all....my posts are not pathetic and i have done my own research so do have some background knowledge
 
well i just read about 14 books on the topic...and have seen many 9/11 documentaries...so many things just dont add up...Where was the military on 9/11....why did building 7 just fall....How was such a large scale attack taking place on the USA with the first plane crash at 8:46 and the last at 10:03 but no military intervention...i thought usa could protect themselves from this....

1. The military responded as best they could, with the notification they had, and the jets they had available. They were caught off guard to a degree, no doubt. All previous threats in the sky came from across the sea. There were some break downs at many levels, ATC, FAA, NEADS, NORAD. There was also the issue of not knowing where the planes were. The transponders were turned off. There were multiple hijackings taking place in a short time span...what plan did they have to go by to counter this...to deal with this? Read the 9/11 commission report on this...look up our user here at JREF named "Gumboot" and look up threads he has posted on related to NORAD...go to 911myths.com

2. WTC7: Have you read the interim report from NIST on WTC7? If so, what element(s) of their report and conclusions do you take issue with and why? Just because you feel the building should not have fallen so quickly, does not mean that under the circumstances surrounding it, it should not have.

3. You thought wrong. I think this was part of the problem, was the false sense of invulnerability the US had. Its citizens, its government, its protective agencies, all had this false sense...it cost the country dearly.

TAM:)
 
ok and i am always up to dioscuss facts as I just said in last post...but I dont appreciate my posts being called pathetic or what i believe to be true...I am here for some intelligent converstation and that is all....my posts are not pathetic and i have done my own research so do have some background knowledge

beachnut is kind of the "bad cop" from the "good cop - bad cop" scenario. He is a good person who means well, but I think he has no problem telling you what he feels. We have been led down the garden path many times by people claiming to be "just asking questions", only to later reveal they have already made up their minds on all the issues...

TAM:)
 
beachnut is kind of the "bad cop" from the "good cop - bad cop" scenario. He is a good person who means well, but I think he has no problem telling you what he feels. We have been led down the garden path many times by people claiming to be "just asking questions", only to later reveal they have already made up their minds on all the issues...

TAM:)

well i am honestly just here to discuss and exted my knowledge...but will never try to change a persons beliefs with conspiracy talk...will just discuss the facts
 
well i am honestly just here to discuss and exted my knowledge...but will never try to change a persons beliefs with conspiracy talk...will just discuss the facts

Well this is a good approach, and if you can stick to this, you will pick up a lot of information on the subjects of 9/11 from this forum. Ultimately you have to decide, based on the validity of the evidence, the arguments made, where you stand, and some of that may come from your world view. I would hope you could put your world view aside, and simply rely on the facts and evidence.

Good luck with your inquiry.

TAM:)
 
Well this is a good approach, and if you can stick to this, you will pick up a lot of information on the subjects of 9/11 from this forum. Ultimately you have to decide, based on the validity of the evidence, the arguments made, where you stand, and some of that may come from your world view. I would hope you could put your world view aside, and simply rely on the facts and evidence.

Good luck with your inquiry.

TAM:)

my main probelm with believing that 9/11 happened how it says is that these 19 men just took over planes like that and flew them so easily and precisely...hitting 3 out of 4 targets....and that the wtc designed to withstand a 707 impact could be destroyed by a 767....yes i know that 707 is lighter but its capable of higher speed and when the ratio is compared the impact of the two has similar effects

Ben
 
Welcome wtcconspiracy;

Seeing that this is a thread about flight 93 you should stick to that subject. Dealing with too much at once only leads to derails and threads in the trash.

Now specifically what is your concerns with flight 93?
 
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my main probelm with believing that 9/11 happened how it says is that these 19 men just took over planes like that and flew them so easily and precisely...hitting 3 out of 4 targets....
Why is it hard to believe that a small group of men, some of whom with flight training, could buy airline tickets? "[E]asily and precisely" yet missed on a quarter of the targets.
and that the wtc designed to withstand a 707 impact could be destroyed by a 767....yes i know that 707 is lighter but its capable of higher speed and when the ratio is compared the impact of the two has similar effects

Ben
According to the designers (however the calculations they used are lost) the towers were designed to survive the impact of a 707 at cruising speed not top speed. This is not to say that a 707 would bounce off the side, but the structure would not immediately collapse as a result (it would hold long enough for repairs). It was believed that a jet may accidently crash into the WTC if it was lost in the fog or night, as in the case of the bomber crashing into the ESB. It would theoretically be going slow and be low on fuel.

Remember that the towers did withstand the impact. It was the impact and the fires that caused the eventual collapse.
 
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also note that lots of things are designed to do lots of thing, and not all of them perform as expected

notably the titanic, it was designed to be unsinkable, and it was the opinion of many experts at the time that it WAS in fact unsinkable, and yet it sank

im also fairly certain a computer i purchased was designed to not catch on fire when you turn it on, yet that happened too
 

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