Why don't you believe in Hell?

[Lisa Simpson]

If 1inC wished to actually debate Christianity he wouldn't be treated poorly. He is a troll who does not wish to debate (since logic is the tool of Satan) he just likes to scream his opinions and declare that he won regardless of any and all refutations. This is not the first "debate" we've had with 1inC.

 

[Anathema]

he just likes to scream his opinions and declare that he won regardless of any and all refutations.

I thought he was here for the "Zero to 500 Posts in the Shortest Time Award". He has definitely qualified for that, and the propeller beanie that goes with the title.

 

[Tony]

But how many sadistic, malevolent, or insane people would give someone a choice to choose their destiny?

When the choice is "worship me or die", all of them. "Worship me or die" is pretty much the definition of a sadistic and insane person.

 

[sackett]

Fair enough, Lisa

If 1inC wished to actually debate Christianity he wouldn't be treated poorly. He is a troll who does not wish to debate (since logic is the tool of Satan) he just likes to scream his opinions and declare that he won regardless of any and all refutations. This is not the first "debate" we've had with 1inC.

To be sure, he starts it. If I recall grade school accurately, the playground patsy usually started the aggro, although sometimes all he had to do was stand there looking stupid.

 

[Zamzara]

Can you prove your assumptions? No? Didn't think so.

Doesn't matter. David Gilmour is almighty and His word is law.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Amen, brother Zamzara. Go tell it on the mountain.

 

[Tony]

Please god, tell me this is a joke. Have mercy on your creation.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Fairly certain that's not a joke. Also fairly certain I've seen the show. There is a Christian superhero show like that. At best, that picture is a parody of the show, but it looks just like hwat I remember.

 

[RamblingOnwards]

Originally posted by The GM Hey, thanks for looking that up. I turned in early last night (around page 8 of this thread).

I feel a bit guilty about that one, actually. If he isn't a troll, then it is poking at what must be a very real tragedy in 1inChrist's life. He was abandoned and has had to praise his mother for an act that hurt him. He has probably justified the cost to himself as a sacrifice in God's name, at least in order to maintain cordial relations with his mother.

If he does accept the injunction as binding, he probably won't see this point as we mean it - "nobody lives in accordance to the bible, not even you. Do you really think your mother deserves an eternity of hell? No, I thought not" - he is more likely to see it in terms of "I have sacrificed everything for God, and it turns out that God spurns the sacrifice my mother made on my behalf."

 

[c4ts]

They just stole my Franko idea! I bet Bibleman has a 2 way wristwatch communicator so he can talk to God, a suit that's impervious to logic, vehicles powered by creation science theories, and fights the evil atheist conspiracy to take over the world. If he uses the catchphrase "Circular arguments are GO!" I am gonna sue or something, if I can avoid getting sued by Jack Chick and Capcom first.

However this might be a little more tongue and cheek.

 

[Yaotl]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why don't you believe in Hell?

No it is real in your mind. Do you deny that you are thinking about God right now? You are thinking about Him which makes him mentally real even though you may not believe he's physically real.

Oooooh, I like this logic. Okay, I'm thinking that Jennifer Connelly, Nicole Kidman, and a woman to be determined later are all waiting for me when I get home from work and that my wife is okay with this. So now that it's mentally real, what next?

or even better....I'm thinking that hell is actually a place with the abovementioned women waiting for me and that my wife will join in the games. Does that work?

 

[The GM]

I feel a bit guilty about that one, actually. If he isn't a troll, then it is poking at what must be a very real tragedy in 1inChrist's life. He was abandoned and has had to praise his mother for an act that hurt him. He has probably justified the cost to himself as a sacrifice in God's name, at least in order to maintain cordial relations with his mother.

If he does accept the injunction as binding, he probably won't see this point as we mean it - "nobody lives in accordance to the bible, not even you. Do you really think your mother deserves an eternity of hell? No, I thought not" - he is more likely to see it in terms of "I have sacrificed everything for God, and it turns out that God spurns the sacrifice my mother made on my behalf."

I agree...to a degree RO. As a reformed holy roller (and I'm talking fundie-ism that includes faith healing rituals, annointments, handling snakes, etc...ad nausium) I know how these people act. I know what they say. I understand on a personal level how the structure of a family is supposed to be. So when 1inC comes trolling through here with his melodrama, it's insulting to the people I love, to the people I grew up with, to the people, who despite their beliefs that I am proud to call My Family and My Friends.
That being the case, I am still compassionate for what is obviously a problem in 1inC's mind. Religion abhors him, for whatever reason and he's getting his kicks by abusing the reputation of an entire class of people. I hope that he finds peace in his search, but I'm still going to call him to the carpet when he lies.

Hope that makes sense.

 

[uruk]

Please god, tell me this is a joke. Have mercy on your creation.

If that is a ligtsaber he's holding, all I can say is that satan... I mean George Lucas is going to sue somebody!

 

[Lisa Simpson]

Re: Fair enough, Lisa

To be sure, he starts it. If I recall grade school accurately, the playground patsy usually started the aggro, although sometimes all he had to do was stand there looking stupid.

This is hardly the same situation. 1inC comes here of his own free will (not at all like the enforced years of school) and makes statements that he knows will get the board riled up. He fits the classic definition of a troll and if the troll doesn't like the fact that he gets whomped with a troll hammer, he is free to leave. He is an adult.

 

[TruthSeeker]

1inC,

Do you feel picked on, bullied etc? Are we being mean to you?

What do you think about the silliness that erupts in your threads?

I'm asking you sincerely

Thanks
TS

 

[1inChrist]

And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

They never departed. They communicated all the time even though not face to face that much. Also this certain passage is speaking of divorce, not about a wife going to do missionary work.

 

[1inChrist]

1inC,

Do you feel picked on, bullied etc? Are we being mean to you?

What do you think about the silliness that erupts in your threads?

I'm asking you sincerely

Thanks
TS

No I'm fine, thanks.

 

[1inChrist]

When the choice is "worship me or die", all of them. "Worship me or die" is pretty much the definition of a sadistic and insane person.

You are just preassuming naturalism.

 

[1inChrist]

It doesn't really matter if Dr. Rawlings was a member of American Atheists or not. The points is--did other doctors or scientists verify his initial observation? The answer would be NO. So his "proof" is not proof at all, but merely an anecdote.

Next.

DARWINISM HAS NEVER BEEN PROVEN OR TESTED BY ANY OTHER SCIENTIST!

 

[1inChrist]

Re: Re: Fair enough, Lisa

This is hardly the same situation. 1inC comes here of his own free will (not at all like the enforced years of school) and makes statements that he knows will get the board riled up. He fits the classic definition of a troll and if the troll doesn't like the fact that he gets whomped with a troll hammer, he is free to leave. He is an adult.

So you want me to leave? Just because I spread His Word you want me banned? Do my words strike fear into your heart? YES THEY DO BECAUSE THE LORD'S WORD IS LIKE A SHARP ARROW! Now that you have felt the fear of the Almighty it's time to repent for your sins. Please step out of a sinful life and come to the side of Glory.