Why don't you believe in Hell?

[c4ts]

How was it? Did they teach you any songs?

 

[Cosmo]

There is no pain, you are receding.
A distant ship’s smoke on the horizon.
You are only coming through in waves.
Your lips move but I can’t hear what you’re sayin’.
When I was a child I had a fever.
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I got that feeling once again.
I can’t explain, you would not understand.
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.

Ahh, Floyd.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

I think for the purposes of this thread, an appropriate Floyd piece might be...

Who are you, and who am I
to say we know the reasons why
some are born and some men die
beneath one infinite sky?
There'll be war and there'll be peace,
and everything one day will cease.
All your iron turned to rust,
all your proud men turned to dust.
So all things time will mend,
so this song will end.

Written, of course,by David.

 

[Lord Emsworth]

I was talking about myanalogy that proves logic is flawed.

You do not even understand what logic is and that you need accurate premises etc. let alone proving it to be flawed, in the end even logically flawed ...

 

[Lord Emsworth]

I believe I won this debate because I have refuted all reasons not to believe in Hell.

Hell is very real my friend. And I am quite grateful that you as my Saviour pay the penalty for my sins by going there for all eternity.

 

[monkboon]

So, you've been there?

Still waiting for an answer here....

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Still waiting for an answer here....

You get used to it after a while. I suggest devloping an imaginary friend to help you pass the time.

Or harass skepchicks to mud wrestle for you. Good luck with that, though. It's like getting 1inC to answer a question.

 

[Lord Emsworth]

So, you've been there?

Not yet, but he will. And you will too unless you accept 1inChrist as your Saviour to pay the penalty for your sins.

 

[1inChrist]

Originally posted by Operaider
1 in Christ, I've been wondering something. You may have addressed this already, but what happens to people who have never heard of Jesus when they die? I'm not talking about people like me who have heard the stories and dismissed the idea as purely nonsensical drivel, I already know I'm going to hell. I'm talking about aborigines and people who live in areas of the world that missionaries haven’t been yet.

I am not sure. This is one of the mysteries that the Bible does not address. All the Word says that would be relevant would be that He Judges fairly. So I believe he would Judge those who have not heard of Him fairly and make His desicion. I do not see how they could enter Heaven without Christ but I really am not sure under these circumstances. I really fear that they might go to Hell but I'm not sure.

Do they go to hell? If so don't you think that’s a little unfair?

Whatever God chooses for you on Judgement Day is fair.

Also, what about Ghandi. From all accounts he led a selfless life. One that would put most Christians in front of the line at the pearly gates. But, he didn't (as far as I know) believe in Jesus. Do his acts of kindness go unrewarded because he picked the wrong god to believe in?

Without Christ Ghandi cannot enter Heaven but will instead be banished and punished in Hell.

Likewise, there was a mass murderer a few years back that went to the electric chair. Before dying she found God. Do you think that her last minute conversion made up for a life of cruelty in God's eyes?

Actually no. I think it was good for her eternal soul that she die right after she accepts Christ as her Savior so she will go to Heaven.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Wow. Neat. Not only did you continue to not answer the question I asked, you misattributed questions to me and answered those instead. Of course, your answers were much what one would expect.

You're really one crazy little feller, 1inC. I tip my hat.

 

[Operaider]

thank you for responding to that,

though it was me who asked,

and it was on another thread

Perhaps it's just me, but I'd think that somone who devoted his life to the betterment of humanity deserves a place in heaven before someone who killed his fellow man. But I guess that's why I'm not God.

 

[1inChrist]

[sigh]

When you die, 1inC, if you don't accept David Gilmour as your Saviour, you will spend an eternity listening to Roger Waters whine about WWII.

Do you believe me?

No.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

No.

Why don't you believe in an eternal barrage of Roger Waters whining?

 

[1inChrist]

Your signature is very offensive to me.

 

[1inChrist]

Why don't you believe in an eternal barrage of Roger Waters whining?

Because you just made that up in your mind and it has no bases in reality.

 

[monkboon]

I am not sure. This is one of the mysteries that the Bible does not address. All the Word says that would be relevant would be that He Judges fairly. So I believe he would Judge those who have not heard of Him fairly and make His desicion. I do not see how they could enter Heaven without Christ but I really am not sure under these circumstances. I really fear that they might go to Hell but I'm not sure.

So either: they go to hell simply because no one ever told them about god, making god one cruel SOB; or, missionaries are doing a disservice by preaching to people who may suffer eternal damnation for not being convinced of the Truth, making god one cruel SOB, and devious to boot.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Mine? Really? I'm flattered.

Or is that your reason for rejecting the doctrine of eternal Roger whines? If so, it's rather a silly reason, no?

 

[1inChrist]

So either: they go to hell simply because no one ever told them about god, making god one cruel SOB; or, missionaries are doing a disservice by preaching to people who may suffer eternal damnation for not being convinced of the Truth, making god one cruel SOB, and devious to boot.

God is not cruel. You just base this off a materialistic worldview and you do not understand the universe in which God exists.

 

[Marquis de Carabas]

Because you just made that up in your mind and it has no bases in reality.

Would it be fair to say, then, that you don't believe me because I have no evidence? Because it's just some bullsh I made up?

 

[1inChrist]

Mine? Really? I'm flattered.

Or is that your reason for rejecting the doctrine of eternal Roger whines? If so, it's rather a silly reason, no?

I was talking about the George Carlin quote in Operaider's signature.

Would it be fair to say, then, that you don't believe me because I have no evidence? Because it's just some bullshI made up?

Because you just created it to argue with me, that's why I do not believe it.