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Why did the 9-11 Truth Movement fail?

spectikalcriticalguy, tweeter, JJ?

They must be taking in the After Christmas Day shopping bargains.

When you people get back please see posts 54 and 60

Just got back, great shopping day. I picked up Christmas ornaments for next year at a nice deal. You might get out of the basement for a bit and go get you some too!

I read those posts. I yawned again.
 
Just got back, great shopping day. I picked up Christmas ornaments for next year at a nice deal. You might get out of the basement for a bit and go get you some too!

I read those posts. I yawned again.


You went shopping? did the salesgirl express her fears re: the 911 inside job "conspiracy"?? does it say "911 was an inside jobby job" on the end or back of your ornament receipt? Were the mall carolers singing songs about Judy wood?
 
No, you won't.

Heck, that could almost be the slogan of the Truth Movement. It needs something a bit snappier, though. How about "Getting Nowhere Fast"?

Or, instead of "U Haul", they can opt for "We Howl"?
 
I had to stop at 1:19 when they lied about
"factually based conspiracy arguments"

I stopped at at 1:47 when, immediately after whining for 30 seconds about stereotyping being used as a weapon, the narrator said "then you have these debunker types who spend all day on line and don't have jobs".
 
"factually based conspiracy arguments"

Right. I'll just go and spread some more rocking-horse manure on my garden and see what grows. Then I'll have to get dentures for my chickens and a new wig wam for the goose's bridle.
 
Keep it civil, and on topic.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: chillzero
 
What a masturbatory thread.

The 911 truth movement hasn't failed. There's loads of people out there who believe 911 was an inside job.

In fact in my experience the numbers are rising not falling. Apart from one guy's confession which was coerced through torture and who is being tried in a kangaroo court, there's no evidence it wasn't an inside job. In fact the joke confession and joke trial only serve to persuade even more people it was an inside job.

Even though that makes me a 'twoofer' to Fundamentalist Dewunkers, and a Dewunker to Fundamentalist Twoofers, I'm agnostic on the issue.

When dewunkers have to personally attack those who they call twoofers it only exposes the weakness of their position.

Like I say, this thread is one of a masturbatory nature. I hope the orgasm was worth it. :D
 
The 911 truth movement hasn't failed.

They have most certainly failed. No New InvestigationTM, no mass protests demanding The TruthTM (only some small pathetic ones), no real media coverage of The TruthTM.

I would say the failure of the twoofers has been among the most epic failures ever. They are laughing stocks, in fact the only reason I come here is to laugh at them.

There's loads of people out there who believe 911 was an inside job.

Define loads. I know a lot of people but I only know one twoofer. Even if, say (and this is a gross over estimate), 75 million people in the United States believe in the crap that the twoofers spew, that would only prove that at least 1/4th of the people in the country are stupid. And who cares what stupid people think?

In fact in my experience the numbers are rising not falling.

What experience is that? The pathetically small numbers of people that are now showing up for protests for The TruthTM? The diminishing amount of activity for The TruthTM on the Internet. Do you know a lot of people that are now awakening to The TruthTM? If so, you know a bunch of idiots.

Apart from one guy's confession which was coerced through torture and who is being tried in a kangaroo court, there's no evidence it wasn't an inside job.

You have no evidence whatsoever that the confession was coerced through torture. He probably bragged about it to the CIA. The torture was to get information about al Qaeda. Besides, be bragged about the whole thing to an al Jazeera journalist before he was even caught.

There is also plenty of other evidence implicating al Qaeda and KSM. For example phone calls between Atta and KSM and a laptop found with KSM when he was captured linking him to all 19 hijackers and the attacks.

You also act as though it is the debunkers jobs to do something that is usually not possible, prove a negative. It's not their job, although as far as proving negatives, proving 9/11 wasn't an inside job has been done as far as is possible. It is the job of the twoofers to prove a positive, that 9/11 was an inside job. They have epically failed to do so.
In fact the joke confession and joke trial only serve to persuade even more people it was an inside job.

What people are those? I haven't heard of them. Your moron friends?

Even though that makes me a 'twoofer' to Fundamentalist Dewunkers, and a Dewunker to Fundamentalist Twoofers, I'm agnostic on the issue.

I think you really are a twoofer. You are just to much a coward to say it so you claim you are agnostic on the issue.

When dewunkers have to personally attack those who they call twoofers it only exposes the weakness of their position.

Actually the debunkers' position is very strong. It is based on evidence, fact, and logic. Twoofers' is based on nothing except for speculation, misrepresentation of evidence, and outright lies.

Twoofers are mocked because they deserve it. They are idiots that accuse innocent people of one of the worst crimes of all time based on no evidence whatsoever.
 
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Let's test your agnosticism:

Apart from one guy's confession which was coerced through torture and who is being tried in a kangaroo court, there's no evidence it wasn't an inside job.

You do know that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and Ramzi Binalshibh confessed to Al Jazeera's Yosri Fouda before their arrests, right?

“Immediately, Khalid introduces himself as head of the military committee of Al Qaeda,” says Fouda. “That committee actually was the arm of Al Qaeda, which decided, first of all, according to Khalid, to strike America inside America and to eventually choose the targets, which were actually hit on Sept. 11.”
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/10/08/60II/main524794.shtml

This isn't just a matter of opportunistic boasting, either. Al Qaeda have produced multiple tapes referencing 9/11, including the 19 Martyrs, which refers to each of the hijackers by name, includes new pictures and footage of some, while reportedly bin Laden gives a voice over talking about them. More.

On subsequent 9/11 anniversaries they've released more footage where the hijackers rail against the US, see here.

The US has also provided evidence in a court of law (the Moussaoui trial) that ties Ramzi Binalshibh to the hijackers, for example showing financial transactions between himself and Atta (see http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits).

And there have been multiple admissions of responsibility, both implicit and explicit, by al Qaeda people over the years.

Now, given the way you phrased the question (demand others find evidence it's not an inside job) then I accept you're not going to find this conclusive. But equally, this isn't just "one guy's confession which was coerced through torture and who is being tried in a kangaroo court": that was a long way from being a fair representation.
 
The 911 truth movement hasn't failed. There's loads of people out there who believe 911 was an inside job.

Even though that makes me a 'twoofer' to Fundamentalist Dewunkers, and a Dewunker to Fundamentalist Twoofers, I'm agnostic on the issue.

When dewunkers have to personally attack those who they call twoofers it only exposes the weakness of their position.

-There are also lots of folks who believe in bigfoot. That doesnt mean there is an active, organized, and goal oriented Bigfoot movement still in existence.

-Agnostic on the issue? You claimed that there is no evidence that 9-11 was not an inside job. That shows a strong opinion. Agnostics have no strong opinions on issues. Duhhh!!

-And what do you call it when truthers have to personally attack debunkers? Professional arguing technique? Defending the truth? Neccessary evil?
 

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