Why are you all pretending?

jmontecillo01 said:
My first episode was way back 1988. It was only 4 years ago that the proper medication was found for me.
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I would urge you, Brendy, to pay particular attention to this comment from a fellow sufferer. I'm sorry that your doctors have not yet found the right medicine to relieve your symptoms, but that does not mean that no such medicine exists. Please keep seeking medical help. Do not conclude that the failure to find such a medicine so far means that your symptoms are a true reflection of reality. They are not, and one day when you are on the right medication you will be as sure of that as I am.
 
kosai said:
Thank you for your reply. In an effort to stay open minded, I know what would convince me that telepathy, in your case, does exist. (A test in which you know something you can't possibly have known such as information sealed in an envelope, but is known to a "sender.") However, I ask that you also keep an open mind, what would prove to you that these powers do not exist? If you are unwilling to accept that possibility it will be difficult for anyone here to help you.
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The problem is, there is no way for anyone to convince me what I believe is not real. I have researched schizophrenia. Before all this happened I thought i was a rational person and right now the only rational explanation I can come up with is that telepathy is real or i'm seriously schizophrenic (But my mind won't let me believe that)

To be honest, i came to this forum by accident. I googled "telepathy forums" and this one popped up. I posted without reading the other threads. If i had known that this was a "skeptics forum" I would not have posted here. That was my mistake. Though I think I will enjoy this forum because I am also a skeptic on many other things. I need proof myself. I would love to talk about other things like religion, politics, and the such here. My experience however has forced me to be more open-minded to things I don't believe. I can't dismiss something outright without being a hypocrit because before I was 23 I would have never believed someone who wrote what i did in the opening post.

Let's say i am crazy. I don't mind that term.

There is no way to prove that my delusions are not real because one of my delusions is that most people are pretending out loud that that telepathy isnt real. A definite catch-22.

Well, ok, if a medicine could make all the voices and thoughts i believe are being transmitted to me go away then it would be proven to me. I haven't found that yet.
 
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There is no way to prove that my delusions are not real because one of my delusions is that most people are pretending out loud that that telepathy isnt real. A definite catch-22.
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Well we aren't pretending and we sure as hell are real so please go get help.
 
Brendy said:
My parents, siblings, friends, strangers, and former friends can all read my mind. They can all use my brain and therefore my body as if it was there own. In fact they can almost completly take over control of my mind.
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Have you tried wrapping tin foil round your head ? I have heard that it can stop people from reading your mind.
 
Brendy, I'm glad you're still posting here, and welcome.

I have a very close friend diagnosed with schizophrenia who tells a story that is incredibly similar to yours and she also believed the doctors (and her own family) were trying to poison her with the medication when she first starting taking it.

You could leave here and probably fairly easily find a group of people who will not understand schizophrenic symptomatology and will back up your belief in telepathy, but what good will that do? What will it change for you? You are the one who is going to suffer with the voices (which,as you have shared with us, are not always so helpful and nice) unless you take the initiative and insist that someone gives you a medication that will help you.

I'm not a doctor and I can't know for sure if you have a schizophrenic type problem or not, so this is just one person's opinion. I am also not judging you as crazy; as I said in my first post, that's just mean. But to me your symptoms are just such classic symptoms of schizophrenia, and, if so, believing that people (including doctors, as you mentioned) are trying to harm you is part of the problem, so it could take a lot of courage for you to get the help you need. With the right medication, you will be relieved to find that you no longer believe this. Like my friend, you will also be happy to find that people will no longer be able to "control" you or interject thoughts in your mind in any way. Go back to a hospital and try this as an experiment if nothing else. See if I'm right (and my friend whose experience was similar to yours is right) and the others lose their telepathic control over you!

If you'll just hang in there until you've found a medication that works, you can potentially have your whole life back. You'll be able to work, maintain a relationship, and you will be able to put things into better perspective. It sounds to me like you have a good mind, you enjoy critical thinking, and you just have the misfortune of having a schizophrenic disorder that needs to be treated before you can move forward in your life. Again, just one person's concerned opinion.

Good luck, Brendy!
 
Brendy, you asked us to bare with you. I've been sitting here half clothed waiting for the next move. If you really had telepathy, you would know this.

TEASE!
 
Brendy said:
The problem is, there is no way for anyone to convince me what I believe is not real. I have researched schizophrenia. Before all this happened I thought i was a rational person and right now the only rational explanation I can come up with is that telepathy is real or i'm seriously schizophrenic (But my mind won't let me believe that)

To be honest, i came to this forum by accident. I googled "telepathy forums" and this one popped up. I posted without reading the other threads. If i had known that this was a "skeptics forum" I would not have posted here. That was my mistake. Though I think I will enjoy this forum because I am also a skeptic on many other things. I need proof myself. I would love to talk about other things like religion, politics, and the such here. My experience however has forced me to be more open-minded to things I don't believe. I can't dismiss something outright without being a hypocrit because before I was 23 I would have never believed someone who wrote what i did in the opening post.

Let's say i am crazy. I don't mind that term.

There is no way to prove that my delusions are not real because one of my delusions is that most people are pretending out loud that that telepathy isnt real. A definite catch-22.

Well, ok, if a medicine could make all the voices and thoughts i believe are being transmitted to me go away then it would be proven to me. I haven't found that yet.
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Well, as I said, if you can't be convinced that it's not real then you've made your mind up. No one can convince you that what you are describing isn't the way the real world works so you may want to move on to a "psychic support forum" where you will find others who see the world the way that you do. However, I think you've accidentally found a good resource if you are willing to listen. Think logically about a test that should be possible if these powers you believe in existed. One should be able to transmit information using those powers. That would be easy enough to test, and if by some slim chance you are right there is even a million dollar prize in it for you.

Now, the other option, you are "seriously schizophrenic." The symptoms you are describing match almost every criteria for this, also the age in which these symptoms began are in line with that diagnosis. You are now building stops in your mind to support your delusions, such as a mass conspiracy to just make you feel crazy, this is not healthy.

Lothian said:
Have you tried wrapping tin foil round your head ? I have heard that it can stop people from reading your mind.
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I think this guy is suffering from a mental illness, he hasn't shown any hostility so can we spare him ridicule?
 
Brendy said:
Why are you all pretending?
I am hoping to find people here who don't pretend telepathy isn't real. In my experience almost everyone can do it, but never talks about it out loud. I don't understand why.
My parents, siblings, friends, strangers, and former friends can all read my mind...
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Doctor Sandman!

Paging Doctor Sandman!

Doctor Sandman to Ward Eight, please.

Doctor Sandman to Ward Eight!
 
Brendy said:
There is no way to prove that my delusions are not real because one of my delusions is that most people are pretending out loud that that telepathy isnt real. A definite catch-22.
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Actually, there is. You said yourself that being shielded with lead would stop the mind control. Hospitals have lead shielding for things like their x-ray rooms. A quick visit to a hospital should sort this out for you.

There are also things called Faraday cages. Google them. They are used to stop ALL electromagnetic transmissions. The military uses them to establish security for their computers, for just one example, so they work very, very well at this. These are quite trivial to construct, or to find.

You can get an answer to this, if you really want to.
 
Brendy said:
I like how you all exaggerate about pixies and supervillian powers, when all i'm really talking about is telepathy.
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Telepathy is a superpower. You may as well say "all I'm talking about is invulnerability."

These people i'm talking about doing stuff to me are real humans. And since most people can do what they can, i'm not talking about special people.
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As real as me and my telepathic powers. I am the Dark Ox!

Wouldn't telepathy be the next step in human evolution?
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Clearly, you have very little understanding of evolution. There is no reason for any animal to develop telepathy, especially humans. We have technology to help us communicate globally and even into space. Also, telepathic communication is hardly essential to the survival of our species.

Bat's can use a radar like organ. Why can't humans use brain wave's to communicate?
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Bats use a form sonar. There are a couple known cases of humans using this as well.

You all act like the idea of telepathy is so far fetched, but the concept is entirely plausible from a physics standpoint.
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Not really.
 
Brendy said:
There is no way to prove that my delusions are not real because one of my delusions is that most people are pretending out loud that that telepathy isnt real. A definite catch-22.
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Similarly, there is no way to test my claim that gravity does not exist.

Things on the Earth's surface could levitate or float away. Anytime anyone looks, they just pretend that there is gravity, so there's no way to prove or disprove my claim.

Do you accept this? If not, why not?
 
Brendy, I think you need help for obvious reasons, those reasons being that you are reporting delusions. Since you are inviting the designation of "crazy,", I'll indulge you. What you're saying is crazy. But shouldn't even delusions have some sort of internal logic? If others are controlling your thoughts, and if those others wish to conceal that fact, then who is controlling your impulse to unconceal that fact here? Have you tried to sort through this? It's one thing to have a crazy idea (many people go that far), but it's another step past that to have one that makes so little sense even in its own context.

I have no telepathic powers, and do not believe that such powers exist at all in any form, but if I did have, I would not use them to direct you to mess up my game!
 
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