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Who will win the Alabama Senate special election?

Who will win the senate seat


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People are so weird. Am I the only person that in the event I was elected by a lot of people switching their votes that I would vote for their positions rather than mine?

From my perspective that is indeed weird.

You campaign on the positions and policies you hold and the voters decide if they support that. If you win then you follow through on those positions and policies to the best of your ability. If the voters decide they don't like the job you did or like another candidate better then they can vote you out next go around.
 
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And Democrats have won a lot more than the republican switchers marginal win. It is the time for charity. Share the bounty.

Somehow I seriously doubt that Democrats who will be running against Republicans will help these Republicans to defeat Democrats.
 
Wealth interests are not the only interests a person has. For example, charity is in your self interest if it makes you feel good.
Yes, it's of course impossible to quantify, but I would still suggest that interest is too broad a category to be "absolute" about. Among other things, for example, is the question of whether one's perceived interest is served if it turns out to be a mistake. Is a person who votes against his health and welfare out of a belief in God's word right or wrong if the expression of a candidate is hypocritical? How about if other policies kill him first? What's the math? Is your self interest served if you go to your grave denying what killed you? If things go well for some few years before the chickens come home to roost?
 
Yes, it's of course impossible to quantify, but I would still suggest that interest is too broad a category to be "absolute" about. Among other things, for example, is the question of whether one's perceived interest is served if it turns out to be a mistake. Is a person who votes against his health and welfare out of a belief in God's word right or wrong if the expression of a candidate is hypocritical? How about if other policies kill him first? What's the math? Is your self interest served if you go to your grave denying what killed you? If things go well for some few years before the chickens come home to roost?

All of that still makes it within their interest.
 
From Moore’s non-concession speech:

You know, part of the thing -- part of the problem with this campaign is we've been painted in an unfavorable and unfaithful light. We've been put in a hole, if you will. And it reminds me of a passage in Psalms 40. I waited patiently for the Lord, that's what you got to do. He inclined to me, heard my cry, brought us up out of a horrible pit, out of slimy clay and set me feet on the rock and established my goings and put a new song in our mouth. Praise to our God. Many shall see it and hear it and shall be moved by that, if you will.
And that's what we've got to do, is wait on God and let this process play out.
It makes sense now why he didn't concede last night, he didn't have a concession speech written.
 
People are so weird. Am I the only person that in the event I was elected by a lot of people switching their votes that I would vote for their positions rather than mine?
It's an interesting dilemma, and one that I think is worth considering. I don't think it would be a good idea to go against one's stated positions if you've campaigned on them. People theoretically at least know what they voted for. But I could see trying a bit harder to represent those of other positions, and perhaps even abstaining where their interests are heavily impacted. I'm reminded here of Bernie Sanders, whose original win as Vermont representative depended highly on a backlash vote from hunters and gun owners over the behavior of an incumbent Republican congressman . I'm willing to bet that Sanders is not a gun lover of any great degree, but he has trod carefully on the subject especially as a representative, likely owing to that constituency.

I think it would be a nice thing if Doug Jones were to reassure the voters that he would at least try to represent them all, and not to pull the still-resounding partisan nonsense that Bob Dole did when Clinton was elected, vowing to do just the opposite.
 
If yesterday’s election proved anything, it’s that Trump did not win due to racism sexism bigotry or hate because even the people of a deep red state were wise enough to reject a candidate that embeds those traits.
 
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If yesterday’s election proved anything, it’s that Trump did not win due to racism sexism bigotry or hate because even the people of a deep red state were wise enough to reject a candidate that embeds those traits.

It doesn't prove any such thing. It was a confluence of events at this specific point in time that allowed Jones to win.
 
Breitbart has a quote in huge text "'bamnon least culpable!'"

I honestly wonder what it is like to work there. I can't imagine typing that out and being happy with myself.
 
If yesterday’s election proved anything, it’s that Trump did not win only due to racism sexism bigotry or hate because even the people of a deep red state were wise enough to reject a candidate that embeds those traits.

If you will forgive me I added an important qualifier that I believe belongs in your conclusion. Most people agree that there were additional issues that generated crucial support for Trump, with "blue collar" discontent and personal dislike of Clinton being prominent among them. But Trump's core of racist, sexism, hateful bigoted supporters provided the ~30% foundation on which these other issues built his electoral college majority.

Suggesting that a candidate such as Moore, among the very most overt and proud bigots I've seen run for office in decades, "only" getting 48% of the vote indicates a lack of racism, etc. in Alabama appears to be a way-too optimistic conclusion. In fact Moore, for all his evil, won some 70% of the "white" vote, so I must conclude just the opposite.
 
I thought Moore would win, but apparently Trump knew Jones would prevail. He's so smart. That's why he gets to be president. People say Trump has difficulty admitting his mistakes; that's perfectly OK because he hardly makes any.
 
It makes sense now why he didn't concede last night, he didn't have a concession speech written.

He apparently followed a god that failed.

He has to work that into his speech and make it sound like it's a good thing for him.

Then again, maybe he won't give a concession speech? Maybe he will just fade away and not have to address the failure?
 
I thought Moore would win, but apparently Trump knew Jones would prevail. He's so smart. That's why he gets to be president. People say Trump has difficulty admitting his mistakes; that's perfectly OK because he hardly makes any.

Never made one in his whole life, in fact.
 

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