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Who will Trump fire first?

dudalb said:
For a person whose job is to make Trump look good, Conway is remarkably inept. Granted,not much she could do with a employer like Trump,but still,COnway is making way too many mistakes. In most businesses, she would have gone out the door a long time ago.
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Well, she's performing solely for Cheeto Benito, since she's angling for a more high-profile job in the administration.
 
C_Felix said:
POTUS, White House, and Trump twitter accounts are suddenly not following Kellyanne Conway anymore.
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Let's not call this fake news, but #alternaterumormongering.

Trump never followed @kellyannepolls. He does now. He must've read a re-tweet of this rumor and now follows Kellyanne and Reince.

Please check out internet blather before posting. This gives him four days of "See! Lying media and fake news!" rather than answering questions as to how much he knew and when he knew it.
 
What I read (not an endorsement, mind you) was the @potus and White House accounts unfollowed her and she changed her banner photo. Trump's own account did not previously follow her seems to also be what others are saying.

Making hay out of that seems a bit premature, especially since I doubt Trump is the only person with access to the public official accounts. Could just be juvenile games being played by internal rivals.
 
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Conway is definitely for the chop, it's just a question of time: her usefulness depends on her visibility, on her access to TV shows to spin her Boss's messages.
But fewer and fewer hosts will invite her, which takes away her platform and therefore her possible impact.
Trump needs someone fresher who still has some credibility to lose.
 
dudalb said:
You have got to be kidding. Of course being "Asked to resign" counts as a firing. They always "resign", they are never fired. I don't think one of the major figures in Watergate was fired, except for the AG in the Saturday Night Massacre, and that is a different situation.
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I don't really agree (cos my horse is still running).
For one thing, did Trump really fire Flynn? I suspect Pence is the one who made that happen. For another, you're applying the old rules of how things work. Trump fires people. he doesn't give a monkeys what 'the norm' is. I think the thread was probably created based on the notion that Trump, the entertainer, fires people, to wit, i don't think this counts.
 
Spindrift said:
Can't wait for KellyAnne to be out. That's going to be some book she's going to write.
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Apparently she's been shifted into the weird works for them but is separate zone that Katrina Pierson used to have.

“She goes out, she says whatever she wants to say … and then she comes back in, and they have to clean it up. Now she will lie, as she does every time the truth comes out, she will say she’s being victimized,” Scarborough said.
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She's also mostly getting booked because she's an easy punching bag for viral hits.

And there is an added benefit of having Conway on: Her interviews tend to lead to viral moments when anchors can get praised for being “journalistic heroes” for pushing back against her dubious assertions.
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/kellyanne-conway-tv-media-trump-235022
 
TofuFighter said:
I don't really agree (cos my horse is still running).
For one thing, did Trump really fire Flynn? I suspect Pence is the one who made that happen. For another, you're applying the old rules of how things work. Trump fires people. he doesn't give a monkeys what 'the norm' is. I think the thread was probably created based on the notion that Trump, the entertainer, fires people, to wit, i don't think this counts.
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According to Spicer, Trump asked for his resignation. That's how you fire someone at high levels of government and corporations.

Stacko said:
Apparently she's been shifted into the weird works for them but is separate zone that Katrina Pierson used to have.

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Ooh, Katrina Pierson! I almost forgot her. What's become of her, anyhow? Not blonde enough for a WH job, apparently.
 
Spindrift said:
Can't wait for KellyAnne to be out. That's going to be some book she's going to write.
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Probably won't happen. She's relatively smart, and is looking to promote herself.

Best to go after Toupee Fiasco, rather than the underlings...
 
ddt said:
Actually, AG Richardson resigned because he didn't want to obey Nixon's order to fire special prosecutor Cox. And after him, Deputy-AG Ruckelshaus did the same. But three's the charm, and SG Bork did Nixon's bidding.

Resigning out of protest is a third possibility, and I think it's certainly possible that that will happen under the Orange Führer; but it's certainly not what happened with Flynn.
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The film industry is the same way;no one major is seldom "Fired";they resign because of "creative Differences" or "Leave to Pursuit other projects", etc.
 
TofuFighter said:
I don't really agree (cos my horse is still running).
For one thing, did Trump really fire Flynn? I suspect Pence is the one who made that happen. For another, you're applying the old rules of how things work. Trump fires people. he doesn't give a monkeys what 'the norm' is. I think the thread was probably created based on the notion that Trump, the entertainer, fires people, to wit, i don't think this counts.
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B.S.,frankly.
Flynn was forced out,period. IMHO that is pretty much the same as "fired" just a semantic difference.
 
dudalb said:
Agreed 1000% but no doubt both Spicer and Conway could have handled their job better.
One theory is that they are playing to Trump as much as to reporters,saying things they think will please Trump. I find it hard to belive that Donald, crass as he is, would think that having an official spokesman plug his daughter's product like that was a good idea. But Conway though it was a great way to get into his good graces.....
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You are joking right? The USA President tweeted about his daughter's clothing range!
 
Babbylonian said:
It counts. Being asked to resign is simply a nicer way of firing someone, especially since there's no possible appeals process - the national security advisor serves entirely at the pleasure of the President (there is no Senate confirmation process, for example).
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Legally it can make a big difference.
 
Babbylonian said:
I guess, but I don't think he'd qualify for unemployment benefits given his military pension of at least $80,000/year.
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Flynn seems to have been a very good combat commander who was totally out of his depth when he got into the intelligence side of soldiering. I don't begrudge him his pension given his battlefield record.
 
dudalb said:
Flynn seems to have been a very good combat commander who was totally out of his depth when he got into the intelligence side of soldiering. I don't begrudge him his pension given his battlefield record.
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Neither do I. Unless there was flat-out treason while in uniform, anyone* who puts in 30+ years of military service deserves their pension. My comment was only in reference to the legal differences between resignation and dismissal. In the US, it doesn't really matter apart from eligibility for unemployment benefits; even then, resigning or being fired for cause may only result in a longer waiting period before unemployment insurance starts paying out.

*And, just to be clear, I mean anyone. If a member of the military commits multiple counts of murder as their final acts in uniform after 30+ years of service, they should still not lose their pension; they may not have much to spend it on apart from legal bills and cigarettes, but they still earned the benefit.
 
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dudalb said:
So who is next?
Conway is becoming a laughingstock even more then Spicer is...even GOP commentators are ridiculing here. She is making Donald look silly....she might be next.
Spicer is also a next candidate.
Preibus is also a possibility, though he is not making himself a fool on a daily basis the way Conway is.
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Because it isn't his job to be on the front lines every day.

And I suspect it won't ever be. Other sacrificial lambs will be found.
 
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