Who started both World Wars?

[MG1962]

I plead guilty - was that the B/W film with Robinson?

Yeah, Caesar is declared a coward by the media. Enraged he comes out of hiding to try and fight the entire Chicago police force............He goes down in a predictable hail of bullets

 

[Hans]

Yeah, Caesar is declared a coward by the media. Enraged he comes out of hiding to try and fight the entire Chicago police force............He goes down in a predictable hail of bullets

Getting yourself killed and taking your country with you is not that bright - but then there is so much MORE to love about Hitler......LOL

 

[MG1962]

Getting yourself killed and taking your country with you is not that bright - but then there is so much MORE to love about Hitler......LOL

Reads like a bad Marx Brothers skit

What sort of army should we have?

A standing army....saves money on chairs

 

[Hans]

In previous generations this type of love was exhibited for such as Napoleon, despite his being a dictator. 'Great' men ( in the sense of changing history) always have those who want to be like them, even if those great men were actually swine.

 

[Hans]

Gentlemen may I suggest that we consolidate our questions that are unanswered by 9/11 and repost them 'en masse' untill he does?

 

[TSR]

Gentlemen

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... and -women ...
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may I suggest that we consolidate our questions that are unanswered by 9/11 and repost them 'en masse' untill he does?

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Only if we can agree not to respond to any further drivel until he does. We can take it in turns to repost the list, so no one person runs afoul of the spamming rule.
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[Hans]

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... and -women ...
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Only if we can agree not to respond to any further drivel until he does. We can take it in turns to repost the list, so no one person runs afoul of the spamming rule.
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But of course. My apologies to the women of the forum.

 

[Hans]

Here are my consolidated questions. I will add to them when I have time to data mine further back:

I see also that his bizarre off topic post about modern revisionist history was deleted, however:


Where is the text of these 'peace messages' 9/11 says Hitler was putting out early in the war.... Give us the details, the date it was sent by who, to whom and what did it say, full and complete details.

Why did 2.8 to 3.3 million Soviet POWs die in Nazi 'care'? More than 50% against 3.5% of western POW taken by the Nazis?

9/11 if you could ask Hitler three questions what would they be? (optional)

9/11 give us your vision of the world in 1946 if the English and French hadn't declare war on Germany when it invaded Poland? What would have happened?

So why didn’t all the horribly terrible countries that wanted to attack Germany not do so? Why didn’t Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Britain and France just all attack in 1933, 34, 35,36,37 or 38 or 39 why sit there and wait for Germany to attack them? Elucidation 9/11?

 

[Walter Ego]

Gentlemen may I suggest that we consolidate our questions that are unanswered by 9/11 and repost them 'en masse' untill he does?

Would that be legal under the Geneva Conventions?

 

[TSR]

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Hans, pasted instead of quoted so the repost is easier:

"Here are my consolidated questions. I will add to them when I have time to data mine further back:

Where is the text of these 'peace messages' 9/11 says Hitler was putting out early in the war.... Give us the details, the date it was sent by who, to whom and what did it say, full and complete details.

Why did 2.8 to 3.3 million Soviet POWs die in Nazi 'care'? More than 50% against 3.5% of western POW taken by the Nazis?

9/11 if you could ask Hitler three questions what would they be? (optional)

9/11 give us your vision of the world in 1946 if the English and French hadn't declare war on Germany when it invaded Poland? What would have happened?

So why didn’t all the horribly terrible countries that wanted to attack Germany not do so? Why didn’t Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Britain and France just all attack in 1933, 34, 35,36,37 or 38 or 39 why sit there and wait for Germany to attack them? Elucidation 9/11?"

TSR:

Prove a single lie from the *judgments* at Nuremberg.

Prove that Poland fought wars with *all* of its neigbhors for expansion post WWI.

Where in this document which you cited is the word "lebenstraum" even mentioned?

And what did Bullitt say to Cordell Hull in '36 and why?

What evidence does Suvorov cite in his book(s)?

What, specifically, did each of those tens of thousands you admit were shot "in the East" do to deserve being shot?

What does this from your own source do to your citation of Stefan Scheil as authority?

Dabei ignoriere Scheil folgende Tatsachen:
die Hoßbach-Niederschrift vom November 1937, nach der Hitler den Krieg gegen Polen angestrebt und für unvermeidbar erklärt hat,
Hitlers Kriegskurs seit dem Münchner Abkommen 1938,
unannehmbare Forderungen des NS-Regimes an Polen, so dass dessen Regierung eine gegenseitige Grenzgarantie im März 1939 ablehnte,
die „bewusst eskalierten Spannungen mit Polen im Sommer 1939“,
dass die Wehrmacht seit Juni 1939 angriffsbereit war,
dass die „teilweise martialischen Töne“ in Polen bedeutungslos waren, weil den Deutschen ihre reale militärisch-technische Überlegenheit klar war,
Hitlers Rede am 22. August 1939 vor Wehrmachtsgenerälen, in der er zur Zerschlagung Polens und Vernichtung seiner Führungsschicht aufrief und kein Eingreifen der westlichen Bündnispartner Polens erwartete,
dass Stalin Hitler mit dem Hitler-Stalin-Pakt nicht zum Krieg gegen Polen drängte, sondern dessen Angriffswillen für eigene gefahrlose Gebietsgewinne nutzte.

In what way am *I*, personally, an enemy of Europe?
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[dudalb]

Yeah, Caesar is declared a coward by the media. Enraged he comes out of hiding to try and fight the entire Chicago police force............He goes down in a predictable hail of bullets

'Mother of Mercy..is this the end of Rico?"

"Little Caesar" 'Public Enemy" and "Scarface" (1932 Howard Hawks version) are the Three films that pretty much founded the Gangster film genre.

 

[9/11-investigator]

http://gerard45.bloggertje.nl/note/15741/de-oorzaak-van-de-tweede-wereldoorlog.html

Fascinating Dutch blog full with newspaper snippets from 1939/1940.
For future reference.

The newspaper articles show that the idea that the invasion of Poland came as a surprise is ludicrous.

 

[Wroclaw]

http://gerard45.bloggertje.nl/note/15741/de-oorzaak-van-de-tweede-wereldoorlog.html

Fascinating Dutch blog full with newspaper snippets from 1939/1940.
For future reference.

The newspaper articles show that the idea that the invasion of Poland came as a surprise is ludicrous.

You know, I think I speak for the group when I say: NOBODY CARES.

Why don't you answer the questions put to you by Hans?

 

[Hans]

You know, I think I speak for the group when I say: NOBODY CARES.

Why don't you answer the questions put to you by Hans?

All nicely laid out for you by TSR in #4390, we look forward to your answering them, properly of course.

Oh the next non-9/11 person to read this can you copy message #4390-just so he doesn't miss it.

 

[TSR]

< snip lame attempt at changing the subject >

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Hans, pasted instead of quoted so the repost is easier:

"Here are my consolidated questions. I will add to them when I have time to data mine further back:

Where is the text of these 'peace messages' 9/11 says Hitler was putting out early in the war.... Give us the details, the date it was sent by who, to whom and what did it say, full and complete details.

Why did 2.8 to 3.3 million Soviet POWs die in Nazi 'care'? More than 50% against 3.5% of western POW taken by the Nazis?

9/11 if you could ask Hitler three questions what would they be? (optional)

9/11 give us your vision of the world in 1946 if the English and French hadn't declare war on Germany when it invaded Poland? What would have happened?

So why didn’t all the horribly terrible countries that wanted to attack Germany not do so? Why didn’t Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Britain and France just all attack in 1933, 34, 35,36,37 or 38 or 39 why sit there and wait for Germany to attack them? Elucidation 9/11?"

TSR:

Prove a single lie from the *judgments* at Nuremberg.

Prove that Poland fought wars with *all* of its neigbhors for expansion post WWI.

Where in this document which you cited is the word "lebenstraum" even mentioned?

And what did Bullitt say to Cordell Hull in '36 and why?

What evidence does Suvorov cite in his book(s)?

What, specifically, did each of those tens of thousands you admit were shot "in the East" do to deserve being shot?

What does this from your own source do to your citation of Stefan Scheil as authority?

Dabei ignoriere Scheil folgende Tatsachen:
die Hoßbach-Niederschrift vom November 1937, nach der Hitler den Krieg gegen Polen angestrebt und für unvermeidbar erklärt hat,
Hitlers Kriegskurs seit dem Münchner Abkommen 1938,
unannehmbare Forderungen des NS-Regimes an Polen, so dass dessen Regierung eine gegenseitige Grenzgarantie im März 1939 ablehnte,
die „bewusst eskalierten Spannungen mit Polen im Sommer 1939“,
dass die Wehrmacht seit Juni 1939 angriffsbereit war,
dass die „teilweise martialischen Töne“ in Polen bedeutungslos waren, weil den Deutschen ihre reale militärisch-technische Überlegenheit klar war,
Hitlers Rede am 22. August 1939 vor Wehrmachtsgenerälen, in der er zur Zerschlagung Polens und Vernichtung seiner Führungsschicht aufrief und kein Eingreifen der westlichen Bündnispartner Polens erwartete,
dass Stalin Hitler mit dem Hitler-Stalin-Pakt nicht zum Krieg gegen Polen drängte, sondern dessen Angriffswillen für eigene gefahrlose Gebietsgewinne nutzte.

In what way am *I*, personally, an enemy of Europe?

Please nothing else, folks, just keep reposting the questions. Someone else's turn next time.
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[Hans]

Or to add questions 9/11 has avoided before in this thread

 

[TSR]

Or to add questions 9/11 has avoided before in this thread

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Point taken -- choose a colour for me if you do, and put yours at the end normally.

Hans -- you got the next round?
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[Hans]

Let me pass that responsibility to someone else, 9/11 claims to have me on ignore so he wouldn't see my posts. Good idea on the colours. Prehaps one of the other stalwarts would be so kind to do so.

 

[MG1962]

http://gerard45.bloggertje.nl/note/15741/de-oorzaak-van-de-tweede-wereldoorlog.html

Fascinating Dutch blog full with newspaper snippets from 1939/1940.
For future reference.

The newspaper articles show that the idea that the invasion of Poland came as a surprise is ludicrous.

Who ever claimed it would be a suprise?

 

[TheRedWorm]

Hans, pasted instead of quoted so the repost is easier:

"Here are my consolidated questions. I will add to them when I have time to data mine further back:

Where is the text of these 'peace messages' 9/11 says Hitler was putting out early in the war.... Give us the details, the date it was sent by who, to whom and what did it say, full and complete details.

Why did 2.8 to 3.3 million Soviet POWs die in Nazi 'care'? More than 50% against 3.5% of western POW taken by the Nazis?

9/11 if you could ask Hitler three questions what would they be? (optional)

9/11 give us your vision of the world in 1946 if the English and French hadn't declare war on Germany when it invaded Poland? What would have happened?

So why didn’t all the horribly terrible countries that wanted to attack Germany not do so? Why didn’t Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Britain and France just all attack in 1933, 34, 35,36,37 or 38 or 39 why sit there and wait for Germany to attack them? Elucidation 9/11?"

TSR:

Prove a single lie from the *judgments* at Nuremberg.

Prove that Poland fought wars with *all* of its neigbhors for expansion post WWI.

Where in this document which you cited is the word "lebenstraum" even mentioned?

And what did Bullitt say to Cordell Hull in '36 and why?

What evidence does Suvorov cite in his book(s)?

What, specifically, did each of those tens of thousands you admit were shot "in the East" do to deserve being shot?

What does this from your own source do to your citation of Stefan Scheil as authority?

Dabei ignoriere Scheil folgende Tatsachen:
die Hoßbach-Niederschrift vom November 1937, nach der Hitler den Krieg gegen Polen angestrebt und für unvermeidbar erklärt hat,
Hitlers Kriegskurs seit dem Münchner Abkommen 1938,
unannehmbare Forderungen des NS-Regimes an Polen, so dass dessen Regierung eine gegenseitige Grenzgarantie im März 1939 ablehnte,
die „bewusst eskalierten Spannungen mit Polen im Sommer 1939“,
dass die Wehrmacht seit Juni 1939 angriffsbereit war,
dass die „teilweise martialischen Töne“ in Polen bedeutungslos waren, weil den Deutschen ihre reale militärisch-technische Überlegenheit klar war,
Hitlers Rede am 22. August 1939 vor Wehrmachtsgenerälen, in der er zur Zerschlagung Polens und Vernichtung seiner Führungsschicht aufrief und kein Eingreifen der westlichen Bündnispartner Polens erwartete,
dass Stalin Hitler mit dem Hitler-Stalin-Pakt nicht zum Krieg gegen Polen drängte, sondern dessen Angriffswillen für eigene gefahrlose Gebietsgewinne nutzte.

In what way am *I*, personally, an enemy of Europe?

Please nothing else, folks, just keep reposting the questions. Someone else's turn next time.

I like the orange.