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Don't even bother. Just re-post the list of questions ever time he posts anything.
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There is a multiple catastrophy brewing for Anglosphere and the hits will come from all sides. Revisionism will be only one of them.
 
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Hey nein:

1. Hans: Where is the text of these 'peace messages' 9/11 says Hitler was putting out early in the war.... Give us the details, the date it was sent by who, to whom and what did it say, full and complete details.

2. Hans: Why did 2.8 to 3.3 million Soviet POWs die in Nazi 'care'? More than 50% against 3.5% of western POW taken by the Nazis?

3. Hans: 9/11 give us your vision of the world in 1946 if the English and French hadn't declare war on Germany when it invaded Poland? What would have happened?

4. Hans: So why didn’t all the horribly terrible countries that wanted to attack Germany not do so? Why didn’t Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Britain and France just all attack in 1933, 34, 35,36,37 or 38 or 39 why sit there and wait for Germany to attack them? Elucidation 9/11?"

5. TSR: Prove a single lie from the *judgments* at Nuremberg.

6. TSR: Prove that Poland fought wars with *all* of its neigbhors for expansion post WWI.

7. TSR: Where in this document which you cited is the word "lebenstraum" even mentioned?

8. TSR: And what did Bullitt say to Cordell Hull in '36 and why?

9. TSR: What evidence does Suvorov cite in his book(s)?

10. TSR: What, specifically, did each of those tens of thousands you admit were shot "in the East" do to deserve being shot?

11. TSR: What does this from your own source do to your citation of Stefan Scheil as authority?

Dabei ignoriere Scheil folgende Tatsachen:
die Hoßbach-Niederschrift vom November 1937, nach der Hitler den Krieg gegen Polen angestrebt und für unvermeidbar erklärt hat,
Hitlers Kriegskurs seit dem Münchner Abkommen 1938,
unannehmbare Forderungen des NS-Regimes an Polen, so dass dessen Regierung eine gegenseitige Grenzgarantie im März 1939 ablehnte,
die „bewusst eskalierten Spannungen mit Polen im Sommer 1939“,
dass die Wehrmacht seit Juni 1939 angriffsbereit war,
dass die „teilweise martialischen Töne“ in Polen bedeutungslos waren, weil den Deutschen ihre reale militärisch-technische Überlegenheit klar war,
Hitlers Rede am 22. August 1939 vor Wehrmachtsgenerälen, in der er zur Zerschlagung Polens und Vernichtung seiner Führungsschicht aufrief und kein Eingreifen der westlichen Bündnispartner Polens erwartete,
dass Stalin Hitler mit dem Hitler-Stalin-Pakt nicht zum Krieg gegen Polen drängte, sondern dessen Angriffswillen für eigene gefahrlose Gebietsgewinne nutzte.

12. TSR: In what way am *I*, personally, an enemy of Europe?
 
Nein,you don't need a timeline to tell me what Anne Frank's crimes were. Was she a spy,did she blow up any airfields,was she involved in a plot to kill Hitler? Why did the Nazis murder her?
 
Nein,you don't need a timeline to tell me what Anne Frank's crimes were. Was she a spy,did she blow up any airfields,was she involved in a plot to kill Hitler? Why did the Nazis murder her?

Dafydd would you like to enter that question on our list, with the notable number of lucky 13?

9/11 time line

nazis peaceful and all is wonderful

Czechoslovaka attacked them
Poland attacked them
Then those fiendish Danes attacked them
Then the Norwegians attacked them
Luxembourg started a siege of Berlin, then attacked them
The Dutch bombed a German city, then attacked them
Belgian attempt to conquer them
Etc, LOL
 
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Dafydd would you like to enter that question on our list, with the notable number of lucky 13?

9/11 time line

nazis peaceful and all is wonderful

Czechoslovaka attacked them
Poland attacked them
Then those fiendish Danes attacked them
Then the Norwegians attacked them
Luxembourg started a siege of Berlin, then attacked them
The Dutch bombed a German city, then attacked them
Belgian attempt to conquer them
Etc, LOL

Ok,number 13. I'm not surprised he is not answering,Nazis are used to asking ze kvestions. Why he thinks that anyone would be remotely interested in his timeline or his blog is a mystery to me.
 
1. Hans: Where is the text of these 'peace messages' 9/11 says Hitler was putting out early in the war.... Give us the details, the date it was sent by who, to whom and what did it say, full and complete details.

Good question. You can find a preliminary answer here:
http://20thcentury-blog.blogspot.com/2011/02/stefan-scheil-194041-die-eskalation-des.html
Will be more detailed later.

2. Hans: Why did 2.8 to 3.3 million Soviet POWs die in Nazi 'care'? More than 50% against 3.5% of western POW taken by the Nazis?

Europe was subjected to an Anglo food blockade, the same blockade with which they intentionally managed to starve 1 million Germans in 1918-1919. Germany imported a lot of food from the USSR which obviously stopped in 1941.

3. Hans: 9/11 give us your vision of the world in 1946 if the English and French hadn't declare war on Germany when it invaded Poland? What would have happened?

Not uninteresting question, but in this thread we are busy finding out what really happened, not engaging in what-if scenario's.

4. Hans: So why didn’t all the horribly terrible countries that wanted to attack Germany not do so? Why didn’t Russia, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Luxembourg, Belgium, Netherlands, Denmark, Norway, Britain and France just all attack in 1933, 34, 35,36,37 or 38 or 39 why sit there and wait for Germany to attack them? Elucidation 9/11?"

You are dishonoustly leaving the most important event out: the French and British war declaration, turning a local conflict over Danzig in a European scale war. The French and British invasion of neutral Norway triggered the invasion of Western Europe. Concerning Russia: Russia had 80% or so of it's forces massed along the German border. Read Molotov's biography where he says that Germany had no choice but to attack the USSR. Concerning Czechoslovakia, a fake Anglo-invented country that never existed before and that fell apart at the first opportunity (like all Anglo-invented 'countries' eventually do), it was dubious indeed. However, not a single shot was fired in it's defense, illustrating that the wish for independence was not as great as the Anglo's would like to have it. There is in essence no difference between Czechoslovakia and Scotland or Wales, entities with an identity of their own, nevertheless colonized by London.

5. TSR: Prove a single lie from the *judgments* at Nuremberg.

I have posted several times the confession of that imcompetent fool of Robert Jackson, nota bene in the NMT papers itself, where he admits what he found in the German archives. The allied reaction was to forbid 'certain topics' to be discussed in Nuremberg. That quote is enough to make a mockery of that show trial. It is probably for that reason that the lying mass murdering Americans until this day did not start a trial against the fake perps of 9/11. America is a Jew run sick joke.

6. TSR: Prove that Poland fought wars with *all* of its neigbhors for expansion post WWI.

Here is a start. Possible there are conflicts not mentioned in Wikipedia. But it is clear that Poland was hands down the most agressive state in Europe between WW1 and WW2. Here is an ethnic map of Europe before WW2. See for yourself how small they area of the true ethnic Poles was. Where Germany tried to bring all Germans into one state, the Poles were dreaming of conquering far larger territories than there ethnic homelands. The were before the gates of Kiev! They were even dreaming of marching towards Berlin!

7. TSR: Where in this document which you cited is the word "lebenstraum" even mentioned?

Here is the German version of Main Kampf. Not even Hitler ever mentioned the concept of 'Lebenstraum'.

8. TSR: And what did Bullitt say to Cordell Hull in '36 and why?

"The toilet is on the 2nd floor". Seriously, what an insane way of asking a question

9. TSR: What evidence does Suvorov cite in his book(s)?

I did not read the Russian spy Suvorov, nor will I. I have a real historian, the German real historian Stefan Scheil. Suvorov was right about the Soviet side, they were indeed preparing for an ideological driven assault on Europe. But the Germans had already decided that war was inevitable after the November visit of Molotov, where he effectively cancelled the Non-agression Agreement and provocatively started to demand military bases in Denmark and all non-German lands in Eastern Europe. Hitler than knew war was inevitable.

10. TSR: What, specifically, did each of those tens of thousands you admit were shot "in the East" do to deserve being shot?

They were partizans and it was legal under the terms of Geneva to shoot them. 95% of the Jews in the Baltics were shot btw by locals, taking revenge for attrocities organized by the Jews during the Soviet invasion before Barbarossa.

11. TSR: What does this from your own source do to your citation of Stefan Scheil as authority?

I am not interested in pushing anyone as authority. In the end it is the arguments that count.

Dabei ignoriere Scheil folgende Tatsachen:
die Hoßbach-Niederschrift vom November 1937, nach der Hitler den Krieg gegen Polen angestrebt und für unvermeidbar erklärt hat,
Hitlers Kriegskurs seit dem Münchner Abkommen 1938,
unannehmbare Forderungen des NS-Regimes an Polen, so dass dessen Regierung eine gegenseitige Grenzgarantie im März 1939 ablehnte,
die „bewusst eskalierten Spannungen mit Polen im Sommer 1939“,
dass die Wehrmacht seit Juni 1939 angriffsbereit war,
dass die „teilweise martialischen Töne“ in Polen bedeutungslos waren, weil den Deutschen ihre reale militärisch-technische Überlegenheit klar war,
Hitlers Rede am 22. August 1939 vor Wehrmachtsgenerälen, in der er zur Zerschlagung Polens und Vernichtung seiner Führungsschicht aufrief und kein Eingreifen der westlichen Bündnispartner Polens erwartete,
dass Stalin Hitler mit dem Hitler-Stalin-Pakt nicht zum Krieg gegen Polen drängte, sondern dessen Angriffswillen für eigene gefahrlose Gebietsgewinne nutzte.

Cite source who said this. Certainly not you. You probably not even understand this. Lebenstraum, you cannot make this up! :D


12. TSR: In what way am *I*, personally, an enemy of Europe?

Do not remember I ever said you were. Link to post (if you know how to that). Off-topic derail attempt.

13. Dafydd: What were Anne Frank's crimes? Was she a spy,did she blow up any airfields,was she involved in a plot to kill Hitler? Why did the Nazis murder her?

Insane accusation. Not even the Wiesenthal Center will accuse the Germans of that. She died of typhus due to the bad conditions in the camps as a result of that alllied bombing campaign. Here is an article that shows that most soldiers under Napoleon died of lice, not because of combat situation. Alternatively we have reports that the Polish resistance on purpose was spreading typhus to weaken the German war effort. The Poles were as anti-semitic as the Germans were. The Poles also were openly discussing kickng the Jews out before the war.

Tellingly Anne Frank is the icon of the holo tale for the simple reason that they could not find anybody who was gassed!!
 
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Is there any neutral bystander who can explain to me why the behavior of my opponents is anything other than attampts to derail the thread after they know for themselves that they have lost the debate?

Of course not.
 
Is there any neutral bystander who can explain to me why the behavior of my opponents is anything other than attampts to derail the thread after they know for themselves that they have lost the debate?

Of course not.

Still waiting 911...........
 
Good question. You can find a preliminary answer here:
http://20thcentury-blog.blogspot.com/2011/02/stefan-scheil-194041-die-eskalation-des.html
Will be more detailed later.
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Instead of spamming your own website, supposedly quoting someone else (whom you later claim not to be an authority) who has been soundly criticized for his methodology (as we will see in a moment), why don't you just take the time to detail *here* where you made the claim, the specific documents you claim were 'peace messages?"

Question still unanswered.
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Europe was subjected to an Anglo food blockade,
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Which explains why 50% of Soviet POWs died as opposed 3.5% of western POWs ... how?

Question still unanswered.
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Not uninteresting question, but in this thread we are busy finding out what really happened, not engaging in what-if scenario's.
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Might be a valid criticism if you weren't running so quickly from questions pertaining to what really happened, but I move that this one be stricken anyway. Consensus?
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You are dishonoustly leaving the most important event out:
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Irrelevant to the question asked and still not answered.
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I have posted several times the confession of that imcompetent fool of Robert Jackson, nota bene in the NMT papers itself, where he admits what he found in the German archives.
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Which does not demonstrate a lie.
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The allied reaction was to forbid 'certain topics' to be discussed in Nuremberg.
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We have another question to add to the list: What 'certain topics', relevant to the defense of the Nazis, were forbidden?
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No, it's not a start, since most of that list are wars that *others* started. Arguably the Polish-Lithuanian war was fought for "expansion," but *none* of the the others were.

Question still unanswered.
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They were even dreaming of marching towards Berlin.
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And another. What proof do you offer of this?
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Here is the German version of Main Kampf. Not even Hitler ever mentioned the concept of 'Lebenstraum'.
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Nor has anyone here claimed that he used that word there.

He *did*, however, use it in the quote I cited, and subsequently myself and others cited no less than 5 real historians reporting that quote.

Backed into a corner, you cited a *completely unrelated* document which did not even mention lebenstraum, or, to my recollection, Danzig.

Care to tell us why?

Question still unanswered.
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"The toilet is on the 2nd floor". Seriously, what an insane way of asking a question
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Well, if you had read the citation *you* offered about William Bullitt, or even just pulled it up and done a search for 1936, you'd see that it pretty much trashes your thesis that Stalin and Roosevelt were "working together".

Question still unanswered.
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I did not read the Russian spy Suvorov, nor will I.
... and yet, you cite him in support of your delusions.

Very telling that.

Question still unanswered.

I have a real historian, the German real historian Stefan Scheil. Suvorov was right about the Soviet side, they were indeed preparing for an ideological driven assault on Europe.
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More on Scheil, later as promised.
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They were partizans and it was legal under the terms of Geneva to shoot them. 95% of the Jews in the Baltics were shot btw by locals, taking revenge for attrocities organized by the Jews during the Soviet invasion before Barbarossa.
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Really? The over 25,000 children documented in the Jäger report alone were all partisans engaged in atrocities? You can provide evidence for this?

Question still unanswered.
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I am not interested in pushing anyone as authority.
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And yet you have.

Twice.

JUST IN THIS POST.
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In the end it is the arguments that count.
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Which is directly what the cited passage addresses. Care to translate?
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Cite source who said this. Certainly not you. You probably not even understand this. Lebenstraum, you cannot make this up! :D
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You, demanding citation? It is to laugh.

But I will humour you: that would be Sven Felix Kellerhoff in Die Welt September 2009. Never heard of him, either, have you?
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Do not remember I ever said you were. Link to post (if you know how to that). Off-topic derail attempt.
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Here.

Questions still unanswered.
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Insane accusation. Not even the Wiesenthal Center will accuse the Germans of that. She died of Typhus due to the bad conditions in the camps as a result of that alllied bombing campaign.
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And why was she even in a camp to begin with?

Who bears *that* responsibility?

Question still unanswered.
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Tellingly Anne Frank is the icon of the holo tale for the simple reason that they could not find anybody who was gassed!!
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What Happened To Henio?
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Is there any neutral bystander who can explain to me why the behavior of my opponents is anything other than attampts to derail the thread after they know for themselves that they have lost the debate?

Of course not.

There has been no debate. A debate involves answering questions.
 
I'd say the winner is the party who can express their views in public without becoming a pariah. Who would that be do you suppose?
 
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I'd say the winner is the party who can express their views in public without becoming a pariah. Who would that be do you suppose?

Amalrik, Solzhenitsyn, Havel, Bukovski, Walesa and many others expressed their views in public and became a pariah.

And that is all Hunkidori in your view, right?

I mean, they were anti-communist. That's wrong, isn't it, Craig?
 
Dafydd would you like to enter that question on our list, with the notable number of lucky 13?

9/11 time line

nazis peaceful and all is wonderful

Czechoslovaka attacked them
Poland attacked them
Then those fiendish Danes attacked them
Then the Norwegians attacked them
Luxembourg started a siege of Berlin, then attacked them
The Dutch bombed a German city, then attacked them
Belgian attempt to conquer them
Etc, LOL

He also thinks the US tricked Japan into the Pearl Harbor attack, so the guy is batting a .1000 for whitewashing World War 2 aggressors....
 
Amalrik, Solzhenitsyn, Havel, Bukovski, Walesa and many others expressed their views in public and became a pariah.

And that is all Hunkidori in your view, right?

I mean, they were anti-communist. That's wrong, isn't it, Craig?

There's a difference between anti-communism and Jew-hating idiocy. It would seem you can't tell that difference. Guess what that makes you?
 
He also thinks the US tricked Japan into the Pearl Harbor attack, so the guy is batting a .1000 for whitewashing World War 2 aggressors....

I am far from the only one who thinks that.

The counter theory even made it on to the BBC screen:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=270975414048677528#

this is the story:

- Japan is fully dependant on the US for it's oil deliveries. No oil, no empire, no industry, no nothing
- Japan joins the Axis
- 1 week later Roosevelt is notified that an oil embargo could bring the US into war with Germany via the back door
- US to Japan: abandon your empire and you will get the oil deliveries resumed (no oil means the end of the empire enyway)
- Only solution for Japan to keep it's empire: get the oil somewhere else, namely from the Dutch East Indies
- Unfortunately their is an American fleet waiting in Pearl Harbor that could attack the Japanese fleet on it's way to the Dutch East Indies
- The rest is history

For more detail of the history of PH see: http://waroneurope.blogspot.com/ and search for the text string "speech about Pearl Harbor by Dr. Walter Post"
I translated and transcribed this video (from 4:52) as a service to my opponents in English.

And if you don't like/trust Germans here is an American Jew saying basically the same.
 
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