Who started both World Wars?

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9/11-investigator said:
We discussed this before and yes you managed to convince me that outnumbering 1:7 should be 1:6. Fine with me. Italy was a burden, not an asset. Japan counts as much as a kindergarden.
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Man, you're funny. What you fail to realize is that with your racially deluded views, the outnumbering was probably in the other direction. Guess shooting yourself in the foot is becoming a habit for you, though.
 
I have noticied that when he says "European" The Lying Dutchman really means "Nordic"...Germany, the Netherlands, maybe France. All those Southren Med types and Slavs are obviously not real Europeans, but Inferior Races.
 
dudalb said:
I have noticied that when he says "European" The Lying Dutchman really means "Nordic"...Germany, the Netherlands, maybe France. All those Southren Med types and Slavs are obviously not real Europeans, but Inferior Races.
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And yet he counts them as part of the "overwhelming outnumbering" of his Aryan supermen.

It's obvious that Nein11 has long since lost grasp on what lies he's telling.
 
9/11-investigator said:
You say it... "helped".

The alllies outnumbered the Germans 6:1...
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And thus it was pretty stupid of Germany to start a war when it was facing those kinds of odds. But then, Hitler, while clever from time to time, could also be really, really dumb.


9/11-investigator said:
The Soviets did the dying between 1941 and 1945. You joined the party only in June 1944, when it was already nearly over and had some 15 year olds fighting you in the Ardennes.
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Tell that to the British, Canadians, Americans, Polish, and Free French who had to face some excellent German divisions during the campaign in Normandy—divisions such as Panzer Lehr, 12th SS Panzer, and 21st Panzer—and many good divisions, in addition to the mediocre 'static' divisions (many of which nonetheless fought stubbornly).

While the Russians may have done the majority of the work breaking Germany's land armies, the breaking of its air force fell to the British and Americans. And the breaking of the German economy and infrastructure was not accomplished by Russian forces. It was achieved by the work of British and American heavy bombers which slowly but steadily ground into dust Germany's economic ability to keep and maintain its fighting forces in the field, at sea, and in the air.
 
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Corsair 115 said:
And thus it was pretty stupid of Germany to start a war when it was facing those kinds of odds. But then, Hitler, while clever from time to time, could also be really, really dumb.
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Well given both the British and Americans were in a position to take Hitler out in late 43 early 44 and chose not to so they wouldn't lengthen the war...says a lot about Hitlers intellect
 
Think also of the Abyssinians destruction of the Italian army at Adowa in 1896. (although being Italians they don't count as Europeans in 9/11 bizarre world)

9/11 seems to be unaware (as usual) of the Allied invasion of North Africa and the destruction of the Afrika Korps by the said allies (to include the Americans) in 1943. Not to mention the air corp and naval units already engaged prior to that.

I know I keep saying it but 9/11 PLEASE read some history
 
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If Hitler can concentrated on retaining good relations with the Soviets and agreeing to allow them to take north Persia and Turkey. While he..

Brought in Spain and overran Portugal and removing Gibraltar then brought the Vichy in to fight against the British (co belligency) he might have won or held off the UK/US alliance.

He didn't - he wasn't very bright in some things.
 
9/11-investigator said:
That was against the British.
I was talking about Europeans.
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I realise he's on "holiday" for a bit, but he can't (OK, won't) even follow his own train of thought. 911 said that blacks cannot fight in an organised form...nothing at all to do with against Europeans or anything of the sort. Merely that they were not organised.

Which is what everyone posted in response to.
 
Corsair 115 said:
Tell that to the British, Canadians, Americans, Polish, and Free French who had to face some excellent German divisions during the campaign in Normandy—divisions such as Panzer Lehr, 12th SS Panzer, and 21st Panzer—and many good divisions, in addition to the mediocre 'static' divisions (many of which nonetheless fought stubbornly).
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I'm pretty sure that nein/11 guy has in the past praised the elite status of the Waffen SS, so for him to insult the 1st SS Panzer Division, which took part in the Battle of the Bulge, by calling them '15 year olds' is quite a surprise really. Does he even know about Kampfgruppe Peiper or the 6th Panzer Army?

I also just learnt about the ISTAR, 394th Infantry Regiment, 99th Division. 18 American infantry men and 4 artillery observers held up the entire 1st SS Panzer Division for sixteen hours by beating back a 500 strong Fallschirmjaeger battalion. Pretty damn impressive.

While the Russians may have done the majority of the work breaking Germany's land armies, the breaking of its air force fell to the British and Americans. And the breaking of the German economy and infrastructure was not accomplished by Russian forces. It was achieved by the work of British and American heavy bombers which slowly but steadily ground into dust Germany's economic ability to keep and maintain its fighting forces in the field, at sea, and in the air.
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Exactly. British and American air power disrupted and then destroyed the German ability to wage war.
 
uke2se said:
So, blacks can't fight. I'm sure you'd be willing to put that to the test, right Nein11?
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It's worth looking at the Sihk regiments exploits in WW2 as well. 14 VC's up to 1945.
They fought in some very tough arenas.
 
The 4th Indian division alone received 4 VCs.
They were at Monte Cassino, for example, and captured von Arnim in the Tunisia campaign.

In fact, to quote the Wavell in the wiki article:

"The fame of this Division will surely go down as one of the greatest fighting formations in military history, to be spoken of with such as The Tenth Legion, The Light Division of the Peninsular War and Napoleon's Old Guard"
 
9/11-investigator said:
We discussed this before and yes you managed to convince me that outnumbering 1:7 should be 1:6. Fine with me. Italy was a burden, not an asset. Japan counts as much as a kindergarden.
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Enjoy yout "vacation" 9/11. BTW, thank you for never answering my questions.
 
Hans said:
Think also of the Abyssinians destruction of the Italian army at Adowa in 1896. (although being Italians they don't count as Europeans in 9/11 bizarre world)

9/11 seems to be unaware (as usual) of the Allied invasion of North Africa and the destruction of the Afrika Korps by the said allies (to include the Americans) in 1943. Not to mention the air corp and naval units already engaged prior to that.

I know I keep saying it but 9/11 PLEASE read some history
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Hey, I was first with hthe Adowa reference
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SanityGap said:
It's worth looking at the Sihk regiments exploits in WW2 as well. 14 VC's up to 1945.
They fought in some very tough arenas.
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If we are going to expand examples of White Aryans being defeated by Inferior races, The First Afghan war comes to mind.......I recommend Colonel Flashman's memoirs for a very good description of that.....
 
When I cover WWII I tell my students all the nations that participated with the Allies, not just formally by declaring war, but by sending troops, and they're amazed. All they ever think about is the US, USSR and Britain.
 
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