Who started both World Wars?

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I mean, if my opponents cannot refute the idea of 'Jewish communism', then they implicitly justify Dolfies behaviour.

What our Nazi chum keeps denying - of course, as it's devastating to his argument - is that his loopy idea has already been refuted. It was refuted the last time he brought it up. What the Lying Dutchman is doing now is what he's always doing - changing back the subject to something discussed earlier when he's backed into a corner. That way, the discussion never progresses and the Nazi never has to face up to being completely and utterly proven wrong.

Also note the "the holocaust didn't happen but the Jews deserved it" argument implied in his post. It's hilarious.
 
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What our Nazi chum keeps denying - of course, as it's devastating to his argument - is that his loopy idea has already been refuted. It was refuted the last time he brought it up. What the Lying Dutchman is doing now is what he's always doing - changing back the subject to something discussed earlier when he's backed into a corner. That way, the discussion never progresses and the Nazi never has to face up to being completely and utterly proven wrong.

Note that uke2se refuses to point to the post where I supposedly was refuted!

Also note the "the holocaust didn't happen but the Jews deserved it" argument implied in his post. It's hilarious.

I am obviously referring to the deportations, not to the outcome of the alllied show trial in Nuremberg, namely the holo tale. Note that Jews were thrown out of nearly every European country in history. Any explanation for that, uke2se?

Wait, let me guess... it was antisemitism! :D
 
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I write a beauty of a post, rich in content and potentially earth shattering and guess what my opponents come up with: a one line smear.

No surprises here.

Pearls for the swines, if the JREF mods let me get away with this saying.

No, you write long winded posts. When they are dismantled and shown to be wrong in so many ways you then disappear for a few days, only to return with another long winded post about a completely different subject.

And on and on.

Forgive me if I am gettign a tad bored of this game.

...and I pointed out to you that communism was an evolution of socialism which itself grew from the enlightenment of the 18th century...which itself was an outcome of the earlier reformations and social changes during the previous 2 or 3 centuries. So, unless the jews controlled all of that (in the middle of assorted pogorms, I might add), then your assertion of jewish communism is bollocks.
 
Note that uke2se refuses to point to the post where I supposedly was refuted!

What good would it do? Nazi boy would only deny it and everyone else remembers it.


I am obviously referring to the deportations, not to the outcome of the alllied show trial in Nuremberg, namely the holo tale. Note that Jews were thrown out of nearly every European country in history. Any explanation for that, uke2se?

Wait, let me guess... it was antisemitism! :D

Nice source. Let's add another chapter to the now vast tome of "stuff Nein11 knows absolutely nothing about".
 
Nice source. Let's add another chapter to the now vast tome of "stuff Nein11 knows absolutely nothing about".

Standard reaction here. If it is impossible to refute a statement, like the wel-known long list of Jewish expulsions through history, the opponent starts throwing dirt on the source. Never try to refute the argument. It is so transparent.
 
Standard reaction here. If it is impossible to refute a statement, like the wel-known long list of Jewish expulsions through history, the opponent starts throwing dirt on the source. Never try to refute the argument. It is so transparent.

Standard response here. CT assumes that something that he can't support with a proper source needs refutation.
 
Standard reaction here. If it is impossible to refute a statement, like the wel-known long list of Jewish expulsions through history, the opponent starts throwing dirt on the source. Never try to refute the argument. It is so transparent.

Nice try. Have you ever answered a question in your life?
 
RussiaToday video: History WW2 version 2.0

British court historian prof. Richard Overy is shifting goalposts; here is a summary of what he says...

- Sure, Versailles is the cause of WW2...
- Hitler wanted a small war...
- He wanted to show western powers that they could not do with Germany as they please...
- Agrees with notion that Hitler thought that with the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact Britain and France would stay out of the war...
- Britain and France saw Poland as 'worthy ally' and underestimated Red army...
- Confirms the Soviet strategy of letting western powers beat each other to pulp so the USSR could intervene and bolshevize Europe...
- Western powers never really 'appeased' Hitler...
- The Poles were absolute convinced they could stand up to Hitler...
- The Poles vastly underestimated German strength, even thought they cold march towards Berlin...
- The invasion was not a surprise to anyone. French and British intelligence knew everything in advance; yet they hoped they could deter Hitler...
- Chamberlain never really wanted war and had hoped until the very last moment it would not happen, yet was determined to honor the guarantee to the Poles...
- British and French were calculating with a war just like WW1 that would last years; they were curiously fighting the last war, where the Germans were fighting the next war...
- Downplays the role of UK and US in winning the war, it was basically the USSR doing the heavy lifting; people did not want to know that because the USSR had grown into an enemy during the cold war...

On a positive note, this court historian operates on a far higher knowledge level as my esteemed opponents here. He acknowledges Versailles as the cause of WW2, confirms that Britain/France but not Germany wanted war, he dismisses that Poland was attacked in a surprise move and that USA/UK were Johnny-come-latelies and were not decisive in winning the war.

What he does not yet say, but does not deny it either, is that the war guarantee was the work of the Israel Lobby of those days (Focus group around Churchill, funded by international Jewry), he keeps alive the myth that anybody was interested in the fate of Poland (in reality France/Britain/USA/Russia saw Poland as a sack of potatoes to be thrown in a corner as it suited them, proof: Jalta). In reality France/Britain were still playing the old European balance of power game in their desire in keeping Germany down, where USA and USSR were preying on Europe to incorporate it in their globalist designs, Britain and France were merely usuful idiots in their perspective. France and Britain thought they could pull a Versailles 2.0 on Germany, that was their sole motivation. Hitler calculated that Britain/France would not act stupedly and would not commit suicide. Hitler was wrong.

But nevertheless, this is a remarkeble shift, he definitely is getting there and a clear sign that revisionism is winning.

Remember, this is Russia Today. Unlike my esteemed opponents, the Russians are beyond bolshevism (meaning wanting to subjugate the entire planet and rule it from either Moscow or Washington with some Jewish invented tyrannical egalitarian ideology and branding it with a nice name: 'benevolent hegemony') and start to understand that the current big bully Anglosphere (lead by Israel) can be floored with revisionism in a joint European/Russian/Islamic(Iran!)/Chinese coalition, without the necessity of firing a shot, using the internet. Revisionism will indeed prove to be what Horst Mahler calls the poor man's nuke. It will not last long before Russia will let go of the last WW2 lies and hit the US mid ship by telling the truth about the H-word. In this way we can restore European grandeur from Paris via Berlin to Moscow, that was destroyed by the USSR/USA in 1945. My opponents here are fighting the previous war. They fail to understand the new reality and power of the internet. They are playing the game of musical chairs, failing to find a new seat to sit on in time. And since they refuse to sit on the new revisionist chair they have condemned themselves to have a life as glamourous as that of a securitate agent in 1989. Hitler wanted a European dominated world, realized via a glorious alliance with Britain, where Germany would dominate continental Europe and Britain the rest of the world, as the latter had done until 1939. What Hitler failed to see was that Britain in 1939 was no longer ruled by the Brits but had been corrupted by international Jewry and had morphed into a tool representing Jewish interests and no longer that of the British population. These poor British veterans will never get it. They think that during WW2 they fought for British interests and as a consequence fail to understand what happened to their country after they 'won'. What these suckers really did was helping the Jews to victory, by helping to defeat the only political entity intelligent enough to see who the real enemy was and strong enough to act upon this insight. Britain failed to see it, although there were voices like that of Archibald Maule Ramsay in Britain who told the truth (was 5 years in jail) or Charles Lindbergh in the US (destroyed by the Jewish owned press). And Tyler Kent, who really was in the know, did not get a chance to tell the world what was going on. He was put in jail by Churchill as well.

It does not matter anymore. The picture has completely changed. The Jews have lost the war before it even began. They lost Russia (guess who opposes the continued imprisonment of the world's most dangerous International Jew?), which now holds the key to deliver the final blow by opening up their WW2 archives. The Jewish information monopoly has evaporated thanks to The People's CIA, the internet. China is rising and not integratable in any NWO design dreamed up in Washington. In contrast, the reemerging White World centered around the future Paris-Berlin-Moscow axis (to which Moscow holds the key) will have to do it's utmost to prevent a Chinese NWO after the downfall of America. In order to do this we Europeans must prey on America and reincorporate it in the European World at the first opportunity. That opportunity could rise a) from a Washington power vacuum after 9/11 truth comes out or b) after an escalated conflict between the US and China, for instance over Korea.
 
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I'm curious what, in that summary he posted, 911 thinks is ground breaking?

Of course Hitler wanted a quick war, that's what the whole idea of blitzkrieg is based on (hence the name). He didn't get it because he underestimated the UK, the USSR and the US. Indeed it appears from that post that 911 agrees that Hitler wanted a war. Which is what some of us have been saying since the first page.

I mean, I'd go through the rest but (apart from the usual contentions about the level of blame that can be aimed at Versailles) I really want to know why he's bringing that lot up?
 
Wait, what? 9/11-investigator is now claiming that widespread and long-lasting persecution of the Jews is evidence that antisemitism doesn't exist?

Dave

Of course it exists, but it exists for a reason.

Anti-semitism is a defense reaction against a group of people, who in their talmudic brainware have the ambition to subjugate their fellow humans in a slave state, like the USSR. Read the Talmud. Their racism is even too much to bear for 'certified Nazi's' (according to some here) like me.
 
Of course Hitler wanted a quick war, that's what the whole idea of blitzkrieg is based on (hence the name).

He wanted a quick war as in short and limited. He wanted Danzig back, the Poles did not want that and started to persecute Germans in Poland by the thousands. This persecution was the most pressing issue for Hitler at the time. And since the Poles were not ready to give Danzig back he had to defeat the Poles. Just invading Danzig would have meant war with Poland anyway. The Poles were encouraged by the western powers not to give in and even had designs on German territory, including Berlin.

He didn't get it because he underestimated the UK, the USSR and the US.

He overestimated British and French intelligence, who sacrificed their imperial standing in the world, just to keep a German town under Polish rule (or League of Nations rather). But in reality they were provoking war in order to downsize Germany and prevent it from becoming the dominant force in Continental Europe. Exactly the same motive as in WW1. But in the meantime, the world had changed sinde 1918, and 2 new powers had appeared at the European horizon, a reality France and Britain failed to see.

Indeed it appears from that post that 911 agrees that Hitler wanted a war. Which is what some of us have been saying since the first page.

He did not want war, he wanted to stop persecution of Germans in Poland, a corridor to Prussia and Danzig back. And these persecutions primarily forced Hitler to act.
 
Does this same logic apply to the centuries old persecution of gypsies?

I just want to know if I need to be prepared to bow at the feet of my caravanned overlords...
 
He wanted a quick war as in short and limited.
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He did not want war, he wanted to stop persecution of Germans in Poland, a corridor to Prussia and Danzig back. And these persecutions primarily forced Hitler to act.

Oh dear...you really are terribly confused.
 
Does this same logic apply to the centuries old persecution of gypsies?

I just want to know if I need to be prepared to bow at the feet of my caravanned overlords...

Save your bowing, the gypsies are on the lower end of the IQ pecking order, in contrast to the Jews.

What do you want with this whining 'persecution' concept? What do you think this planet is, the Garden of Eden? There were days during WW1 where the French lost more people in one day as the Jews in their entire history up until 1942.

French 'persecuted'?

The oceans and jungles of this world are one big permanent hollywood style Auschwitzes, where every second zillions of creatures are being consumed by others. But don't let it keep you from enjoying your Hamburger tonight.

The world is amoral, at times even immoral. Morals are used as an extra weapon in the eternal competition of groups, nations, ethnicities, ideologies, Germans, French, Soviets, Jews, Gypsies. The Jews are masters in using morals as a weapon.
 
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I mean, if my opponents cannot refute the idea of 'Jewish communism', then they implicitly justify Dolfies behaviour. After all, who can tolerate Bolshevism? Not even the Americans did that after 1948.

You refuted it yourself in the post numbers I highlighted for you last week that you never replied too....
 
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