Who started both World Wars?

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stilicho likes to equate 'the world' with JREF, a typical globalist attitude, now sliding into the abbys fast. Even the ruling NWO elite knows that it will be game over fast. The only interesting question will be if Quebec will become independent or a French province and whether Alaska will go to China or Russia. And when you are honest to yourself you deep in your heart long to be ruled by your fellow Europeans again rather than uhhh the youknowwhos.

Quebec doesn't desire independence and the French have had no interest in recovering their lost territories in over two centuries. Some historians would suggest they had little interest in developing their overseas possessions in North America even before that.

Who are the "youknowwhos"?
 
So we are back to Russia taking over Alaska again.
I have no love for Putin, but I think even with him anybody suggesting seriously Russia taking back Alaska would be laughed out of the room.
 
stilicho likes to equate 'the world' with JREF, a typical globalist attitude, now sliding into the abbys fast. Even the ruling NWO elite knows that it will be game over fast. The only interesting question will be if Quebec will become independent or a French province and whether Alaska will go to China or Russia. And when you are honest to yourself you deep in your heart long to be ruled by your fellow Europeans again rather than uhhh the youknowwhos.

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The Lying Dutchman cites Gary North...who predicted a economic holocaust in 2000 because of the Y2K bug. Nice going,guy.
 
So we are back to Russia taking over Alaska again.
I have no love for Putin, but I think even with him anybody suggesting seriously Russia taking back Alaska would be laughed out of the room.

You would have been 'laughed out of the room' in 1988 if you had predicted that the GDR would be taken back by the BRD in 3 years time. That came as a total surprise to all pundits.

We all saw what happened in New Orleans post Katrina, the 'fantastic cohesion' of the diverse population. This could be easily scaled to continental dimensions once the financial meltdown will set in. The financial meltdown Richard Haass is warning against.

I mean, if Memel can be placed under French administration post Versailles, why not Alaska under Russian administration? Palin can see the Ruskies when she looks out of her window, she only needs to wave.

dudalb likes to think that everything will be the same until the sun will burn up in a few billion years.

Snore on.
 
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The Lying Dutchman cites Gary North...who predicted a economic holocaust in 2000 because of the Y2K bug. Nice going,guy.

I agree that Americans can get rather hysterical on holocausts of all sorts...

But North is reviewing an article by Richard Haass. There's not much that North can do wrong here.

Haass discusses the 'road to ruin'... of your system that is.

North puts this article on par with the famous article by mr X. (George Kennan) about Soviet containment, which was the official policy line for decades.

I mean, it is not just your dedicated Dutch 'Neo-Nazi' saying these things...
 
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I mean, it is not just your dedicated Dutch 'Neo-Nazi' saying these things...

No, it's the Dutch neo-Nazi and at least two other kooks.

ETA: Correction: One other kook. The Haass article is a warning about the US economy - a warning that would apply to most Western nations. We're in a recession and Haass is outlining how the American economy came to be the way it is. Nothing about the collapse of the US "empire" or the rise of Europeans against Anglos or even a tiny smidgen of antisemitism.
 
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Today on Libertarian Central LewRockwell.com:

http://www.lewrockwell.com/higgs/higgs173.html

About Ralph Raico, an American revisionist writer, who recently wrote this revisionist book: Great Wars and Great Leaders, writing Woodrow Wilson, Winston Churchill, FDR, Truman, Stalin, Trotsky into the ground.

Thus, in these pages, you will find descriptions and accounts of World War I, of the lead-up to formal US belligerence in World War II, and of Churchill, Roosevelt, and Truman, among others, that bear little resemblance to what you were taught in school. Here you will encounter, perhaps for the first time, compelling evidence of how the British maneuvered US leaders and tricked the American people prior to the US declarations of war in 1917 and 1941. You will read about how the British undertook to starve the Germans – men, women, and children alike – not only during World War I, but for the greater part of a year after the armistice. You will be presented with descriptions of how the communists were deified and the German people demonized by historians and others who ought to have known better. You will see painted in truer shades a portrait of the epic confrontation between the great majority of Americans, who wished to keep their country at peace in 1939, 1940, and 1941, and the well-placed, unscrupulous minority who sought to plunge the United States into the European maelstrom.

Makes you wonders who this 'well-placed, unscrupulous minority' might be. :rolleyes:
 
Excellent revisionist BBC documentary (1989) about Pearl Harbor that proves that Roosevelt was fully aware of what was about to happen:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=270975414048677528#

Additional information about the setup that PH was:

http://kennysideshow.blogspot.com/2010/12/pearl-harbor-deception.html

1. In the summer of 1940 Roosevelt ordered the Pacific to relocate from the West Coast to Hawaii. When its commander, Admiral Richardson, protested that Pearl Harbor offered inadequate protection from air and torpedo attack he was replaced.

2. On October 7 1940 Navy IQ analyst McCollum wrote an eight-point memo for Roosevelt on how to force Japan into war with U.S., including an American oil embargo against Japan. All of them were eventually accomplished.

3. On 23 June 1941 - one day after Hitler's attack on Russia - Secretary of the Interior and FDR's Advisor Harold Ickes wrote a memo for the President in which he pointed out that "there might develop from the embargoing of oil to Japan such a situation as would make it not only possible but easy to get into this war in an effective way. And if we should thus indirectly be brought in, we would avoid the criticism that we had gone in as an ally of communistic Russia."


Recent audio interview with Robert Stinnett, author of 'Day of Deceit'
Warning: this interview is deemed unsuitable for Americans over 18!
 
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Excellent revisionist BBC documentary (1989) about Pearl Harbor that proves that Roosevelt was fully aware of what was about to happen:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=270975414048677528#
That video doesn't say what you think it does. Quote the timecode for where It proves Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbour was the target. Since the USA was not at war with Japan at that time, what was he going to do about it?



Have you read that site? Wow! is all I can say. It's a hotchpotch of every CT going mixed with religious crap. That's your source? Really?
Edit. Just had another look through that site and it ahas an awful lot of articles about Jews. Colour me surprised.
 
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It's almost as if anybody can search the web and find a site that confirms his beliefs, no matter how crazy, and then post a link to it on an internet forum as evidence. Go figure.
 
That video doesn't say what you think it does. Quote the timecode for where It proves Roosevelt knew Pearl Harbour was the target. Since the USA was not at war with Japan at that time, what was he going to do about it?

I indeed did not watch it today, but I was aware of its existence, have it stored somewhere and likely saw it in the past.

I was and still am relying on this comment with the video, which I suspect is the official text with this documentary:

For nearly 50 years, the world has believed President Franklin D. Roosevelt's declaration that the Pearl Harbor attack was a completely unexpected assault on a neutral nation. Sacrifice at Pearl Harbor tells another, hidden story - using actual recording of intercepted diplomatic communications, declassified government documents, archival footage and interviews with diplomats and spies from around the world. We now know that intelligence operatives from the US and three Allied nations monitored the Japanese fleet's progress on its deadly mission to Oahu in late 1941. Yet neither Admiral Kimmell nor General Short received a word of warning that might have allowed them to avert the sacrifice of 4,000 American casualties in less than 90 minutes.

This is equivalent of saying that Roosevelt knew in advance. But we know that already from other sources, like Stimson's diary, see quote below.

Frankly, I do not understand why we are stilling having this discussion when even Time Magazine (1946!) admits as much:

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,792673,00.html

Nov 25 (911I: 2 weeks before PH)...The President brought up the event that we were likely to be attacked, perhaps (as soon as) next Monday, for the Japanese are notorious for making an attack without warning, and the question was what we should do. The question was how we should maneuver them into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves. . . .
 
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Wow, never seen this before, a speech held by uncle Joe 'peace loving' Stalin (and noble ally of the Anglos) at the eve of the outbreak of WW2, revealing all his strategic considerations.

Speech by I.V. Stalin

19 August 1939
to the Politburo
of the All-Union Communist Party
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Thus, our task consists in making sure that Germany should be involved in war as long as possible, so that England and France would be so exhausted that they no longer would be capable of presenting a threat to a Soviet Germany. We shall maintain a position of neutrality while biding our time; the USSR will grant aid to present-day Germany to provide raw materials and general supplies.

For these plans to be realized, it is indispensable to prolong the war as long as possible, and it is in this precise direction that we should guide all the forces with which we shall act in Western Europe.

Wonderfull, all I need to prove that WW2 was a combined US/USSR assault on Europe.
 
Excellent revisionist BBC documentary (1989) about Pearl Harbor that proves that Roosevelt was fully aware of what was about to happen:
Let's play act alternate scenarios. The US cares less and doesn't get involved except to keep England and Soviets afloat. Your posts must be in German with Heil, mein Führer at the end of each.

Amsterdam sure did their part at putting up a resistance. I read they did some praying that their German oppressors would leave. I guess that allows them to second guess their rescuers.
 
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http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,792673,00.html
Nov 25 (911I: 2 weeks before PH)...The President brought up the event that we were likely to be attacked, perhaps (as soon as) next Monday, for the Japanese are notorious for making an attack without warning, and the question was what we should do. The question was how we should maneuver them into the position of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to ourselves. . . .

And you know what? The Pacific forces were put on war alert two days later.

I keep mentioning this, but you seem to like ignoring it.

And, also, that entry says nothing about Pearl being the target. Why? Because they didn't know what the target was going to be. It was thought likely to be the Phillipines, but no guarantees, hence the reason the whole of the US forces in the Pacific were put on alert. Which includes Pearl Harbour.
 
Excellent revisionist BBC documentary (1989) about Pearl Harbor that proves that Roosevelt was fully aware of what was about to happen:


I indeed did not watch it today, but I was aware of its existence, have it stored somewhere and likely saw it in the past.

I was and still am relying on this comment with the video, which I suspect is the official text with this documentary::
So you actually know nothing about it or what it proves. Well done.
 
And you know what? The Pacific forces were put on war alert two days later.

I keep mentioning this, but you seem to like ignoring it.

And, also, that entry says nothing about Pearl being the target. Why? Because they didn't know what the target was going to be. It was thought likely to be the Phillipines, but no guarantees, hence the reason the whole of the US forces in the Pacific were put on alert. Which includes Pearl Harbour.

If he had bothered to watch the video he posted as ze proof he would have discovered this. Epic fail.
 
Let's play act alternate scenarios. The US cares less and doesn't get involved except to keep England and Soviets afloat. Your posts must be in German with Heil, mein Führer at the end of each.

Amsterdam sure did their part at putting up a resistance. I read they did some praying that their German oppressors would leave. I guess that allows them to second guess their rescuers.

I think you misunderstand nein11's motives. He would gladly be living under a Nazi regime today. They are his heroes and they can do no wrong. He thinks the "anglos" are meanies for messing up his ethnically pure Europe.
 
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