Who started both World Wars?

[9/11-investigator]

Let's play act alternate scenarios. The US cares less and doesn't get involved except to keep England and Soviets afloat. Your posts must be in German with Heil, mein Führer at the end of each.

Standard Anglo reaction. Since you are a self-professed Conneticut autoworker (probably out of work) arriving late in this thread, I will explain it to you again...

Germany was forced to invade Western-Europe after Britain and France abandoned their 'phoney war' and started to implement an invasion of Norway. That is what triggered the German reaction, something Germany had never planned to do or wished to do. Hitler was scared to death for a 2-front war from his WW1 experience. Several peace offers after May 1940 + Hess flight prove that point. Until a few days before the invasion of Poland, Germany was discussing an alliance with Britain, that Chamberlain was willing to contemplate, but deemed impossible to achieve within the British internal climate as invoked by the Focus lobby (Chamberlain's 'World Jews'). It was the US that was medling in European affairs and pushing Britain into the Polish garantee and subsequent war declaration.

Amsterdam sure did their part at putting up a resistance. I read they did some praying that their German oppressors would leave. I guess that allows them to second guess their rescuers.

A grave insult to the Dutch. Holland delivered the largest contingent SS, fighting Judeo-initiated Bolshevism, the largest bunch of mass murderers in history... in other words, your buddies.

Once you know that, 'Nazi' is a badge of honour.

Here a Dutch-SS poster, mocking our fine American 'liberators'.

 

[uke2se]

Like I said, Senex. Arguing that the Allies saved Europe from a Nazi dictatorship only infuriates nein11. He wanted that Nazi dictatorship.

 

[twinstead]

Like I said: Untenable.

 

[uke2se]

Here a Dutch-SS poster, mocking our fine American 'liberators'.

It's interesting that the monster representing the US in that picture is wearing a Ku-Klux-Klan mask, given the fact that the Klan is on nein11's side in this. Does the mask represent the hopes and dreams of the Dutch SS, or does it represent yet another massive misunderstanding?

ETA: Nein11's flawed version of history is, of course, his failed argument which has been utterly destroyed in this thread.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Like I said, Senex. Arguing that the Allies saved Europe from a Nazi dictatorship only infuriates nein11. He wanted that Nazi dictatorship.

Never said that. I said that the actions of Britain (and France) provoked the invasion.
Regarding my preferences for Dutch rule:

1) Dutch ruling themselves, like they did for centuries (within a European framework). I am basically a Gaullist.
2) Nazi rule.
3) Moslim rule, which will be the consequence if the Europeans will prove to be unable to put the Jew-run USA out of business. But I expect the US to collapse before that happens.

 

[uke2se]

Never said that. I said that the actions of Britain (and France) provoked the invasion.
Regarding my preferences for Dutch rule:

1) Dutch ruling themselves, like they did for centuries (within a European framework). I am basically a Gaullist.
2) Nazi rule.
3) Moslim rule, which will be the consequence if the Europeans will prove to be unable to put the Jew-run USA out of business. But I expect the US to collapse before that happens.

Well, you might not have said it in plain text, but your argument has been that a Nazi dictatorship of Europe would have been a good thing. As for your list, you already have 1). That you put Nazi rule on spot 2) shows a complete lapse of cognitive abilities. 3) is just more paranoid delusion, managing to somehow connect Jewish control of the US to a Muslim control of Europe.

 

[9/11-investigator]

It's interesting that the monster representing the US in that picture is wearing a Ku-Klux-Klan mask, given the fact that the Klan is on nein11's side in this. Does the mask represent the hopes and dreams of the Dutch SS, or does it represent yet another massive misunderstanding?

ETA: Nein11's flawed version of history is, of course, his failed argument which has been utterly destroyed in this thread.

They are making a mockery of white American Eurotrash. Even a (born again) right-winger like me cannot take these KKK fools in white ghost dresses seriously.

See it as the natural feeling of superiority of the European over the descendants of the huddled masses, who accidently fell upwards into world power as a windfall profit resulting from Russian sacrifices.

 

[Hans]

Another odd thing about 9/11s view of the world he cannot seem to understand that Germany wasn't destroyed. It seems to me it doing just fine. Soviet style communism is gone but 9/11 wants nazism back - for what purpose is beyond me. There is no 'red' menace to fight now. It would seem he views anyone who is not an albino as a threat to himself and 'western civilization'.

Yes I know its silly - but if 9/11 had been a woman born earlier in the last century he/she would have wanted to have Hitler's baby...

 

[uke2se]

They are making a mockery of white American Eurotrash. Even a (born again) right-winger like me cannot take these KKK fools in white ghost dresses seriously.

You probably shouldn't alienate some of your very few allies.

See it as the natural feeling of superiority of the European over the descendants of the huddled masses, who accidently fell upwards into world power as a windfall profit resulting from Russian sacrifices.

By "the European" you are once again talking about yourself and your very small group of like minded neo-Nazis. The vast majority of us Europeans don't like your kind. Europeans helped beat your kind to a pulp 65 years ago, and we would do it again should it ever be necessary. Given the low quality of the current neo-Nazi brain, it's unlikely that it ever will be necessary, though.

 

[twinstead]

Yea, it appears that 9/11-investigator, like most cult members, grossly overestimate their numbers and importance in debates like this. I for one am not concerned about a little group of idiot neo-nazis think. I submit that my attitude is held by most rational people on Earth.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Well, you might not have said it in plain text, but your argument has been that a Nazi dictatorship of Europe would have been a good thing. As for your list, you already have 1). That you put Nazi rule on spot 2) shows a complete lapse of cognitive abilities. 3) is just more paranoid delusion, managing to somehow connect Jewish control of the US to a Muslim control of Europe.

We don't have 1).

Wikileaks painfully showed a total subservience of European 'leaders' to Washington. This flemish Van Rompuy joke of an EU-president was revealed as saying that they don't believe in the Afghanistan mission but that they do it out of 'respect for America' anyway. Then we have German leaders openly passing vital information to American diplomats. We have the Jew Sarkozy sucking up to the Americans and informing them of his presidential ambitions even before he told his own party.

Via America we are sugjugated to a Jewish-American Ueberclass that is hell bent on the destruction of the European 'biosphere'. But they are going to fail, just like in the USSR. Add 'America 201x' to this video after 9/11-truth comes out.

 

[Hans]

Yea, it appears that 9/11-investigator, like most cult members, grossly overestimate their numbers and importance in debates like this. I for one am not concerned about a little group of idiot neo-nazis with no knowledge of history think. I submit that my attitude is held by most rational people on Earth.

Fixed that for ya

 

[Tolls]

Never said that. I said that the actions of Britain (and France) provoked the invasion.

You keep saying it, but it's been shown (over and over and over again) to be plain false. And each time you ignore it, eventually running off for a few days before coming back as though nothing has happened.

Do you admit that the US Pacific forces (including Hawaii) were put on war alert 10 days before the attack on Pearl Harbour, and 2 days after your Stimson quote? Thought I'd ask since you seem to have missed it...again.

 

[Senex]

Like I said, Senex. Arguing that the Allies saved Europe from a Nazi dictatorship only infuriates nein11. He wanted that Nazi dictatorship.

You're right.

Standard Anglo reaction. Since you are a self-professed Conneticut autoworker (probably out of work) arriving late in this thread, I will explain it to you again...

You like to make quick judgement calls that fit your crazy/evil/irrational view of the world. I'm not an autoworker. I teach history to people who haven't gone off their medication. My location is at the auto body shop to repair my car because of the unfortunate accident pictured in my avatar.

A grave insult to the Dutch. Holland delivered the largest contingent SS, fighting Judeo-initiated Bolshevism, the largest bunch of mass murderers in history... in other words, your buddies.

Once you know that, 'Nazi' is a badge of honour.

I understand now. You are angry you were born 60 years too late and were deprived the ability to shove Jews in ovens.

You are twisted and I can only hope your incompetency limits your world view to the Internet.

 

[uke2se]

We don't have 1).

Wikileaks painfully showed a total subservience of European 'leaders' to Washington. This flemish Van Rompuy joke of an EU-president was revealed as saying that they don't believe in the Afghanistan mission but that they do it out of respect for American anyway. Then we have German leaders openly passing vital information to American diplomats. We have the Jew Sarkozy sucking up to the Americans and informing them of his presidential ambitions even before he told his own party.

Via America we are sugjugated to a Jewish-American Ueberclass that is hell bent on the destruction of the European 'biosphere'. But they are going to fail, just like in the USSR. Add 'America 201x' to this video after 9/11-truth comes out.

So the EU president saying we're helping our allies in Afghanistan, German leaders passing information, something that's been done since the dawn of modern society and a Jewish person telling some American about his dreams of becoming president = the Dutch don't rule their own country to you?

Man, you're worse off than I thought.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Yea, it appears that 9/11-investigator, like most cult members, grossly overestimate their numbers and importance in debates like this. I for one am not concerned about a little group of idiot neo-nazis think. I submit that my attitude is held by most rational people on Earth.

Can't wait to finally hear a summary of your 'attitude'.

Let me guess: 'Europeans, Americans, Africans, women, tulip bulbs... all equal!'.

 

[uke2se]

Can't wait to finally hear a summary of your 'attitude'.

Let me guess: 'Europeans, Americans, Africans, women, tulip bulbs... all equal!'.

He told you his attitude in the post you quoted. You might want to learn how to read.

 

[Hans]

Don't worry Senex a 14 year old with a history text can out debate this guy. His only 'weapon' is pure denial of the facts......as noted dozens and dozens of times in theis thread.

Hey want to do something fun - ask him why they replaced the Norwegian King with the traitor Qusiling and why the Norwegian King went to the UK?

Oh and just to confuse him some more ask him why the the Luftwaffe attacked A Norwegian town called Nybergsund.......

Oh you will have to ask because he is to afraid to respond to anything I write - yep Nazi AND a coward.

 

[9/11-investigator]

You like to make quick judgement calls that fit your crazy/evil/irrational view of the world. I'm not an autoworker. I teach history to people who haven't gone off their medication. My location is at the auto body shop to repair my car because of the unfortunate accident pictured in my avatar.

I hardly would consider that woman in your avatar an 'unfortunate accident'!

I understand now. You are angry you were born 60 years too late and were deprived the ability to shove Jews in ovens.

You are twisted and I can only hope your incompetency limits your world view to the Internet.

2 posts in this thread and already a Godwin pops up. No surprises here. You really would miss the holocaust, this opportunity for mediocre people to become a Good Guy on the cheap.

 

[Senex]

Don't worry Senex a 14 year old with a history text can out debate this guy. His only 'weapon' is pure denial of the facts......as noted dozens and dozens of times in theis thread.

Hey want to do something fun - ask him why they replaced the Norwegian King with the traitor Qusiling and why the Norwegian King went to the UK?

Oh and just to confuse him some more ask him why the the Luftwaffe attacked A Norwegian town called Nybergsund.......

Oh you will have to ask because he is to afraid to respond to anything I write - yep Nazi AND a coward.

Honestly, I was in the mood to post last night and went to the recent posts area and saw "Who started both World Wars" and clicked on it failing to notice it was in the Conspiracy Theory section. I love to use the "you would be speaking German" line because I know it irritates on several levels rational Europeans.

Now that I understand who the person is I replied to I wish to just gracefully vanish from the thread because you can't argue with crazy people. I'm surprised so many others are.