Who started both World Wars?

[9/11-investigator]

uke2se simply does not understand the concept of independent justice.

He thinks that if he crashes into another car on the road and then gets a fight with the other driver and that the other driver wins the fight and ties our poor uke2se, bleeding from his potato nose, to a tree and next puts on a whig and next convicts poor uke2se to a fine of 100,000$, that somehow this person is speaking 'justice'!!

I am really feeling sorry for uke2se.

Can somebody please support our poor uke2se?
He is manouvering himself into a terrible mess.

 

[uke2se]

uke2se simply does not understand the concept of independent justice.

I do. I also understand history and politics. You clearly have no understanding of any of the three.

He thinks that if he crashes into another car on the road and then gets a fight with the other driver and that the other driver wins the fight and ties our poor uke2se, bleeding from his potato nose, to a tree and next puts on a whig and next convicts the uke2se to a fine of 100,000$, that somehow this person is speaking 'jusstice'!!

Straw men are all you've got, Nazi boy.

I am really feeling sorry for uke2se.

Not half as sorry as you should feel for yourself. Man, got to be tough backing the side that was virtually wiped out 65 years ago and has eeked out a meager existence ever since, constantly being beaten down by virtually every scientific institution and having to lie openly to even justify their own existence.

You are truly worthy of pity.

 

[9/11-investigator]

So, where is the quote "Who’s talking about a fair trial?" If you, as you say, have me by my throat, you should be able to find it. So far, you haven't produced it.

As for Jackson admitting not having a case, I have to say that if you believe what you quoted says or even hints at that, you're more deluded than I thought.

ETA: Before nein-11 falsely accuses me of moving goal posts, please note that it was the "Who’s talking about a fair trial?" quote I have been asking for all along, specifically.

Forget about that quote, I gave you post #3258 with this damning sourced quote from Jackson:

but the captured documents of the Foreign Office that I have examined all come down to the claim, "We have no way out; we must fight; we are encircled; we are being strangled to death."

Jackson admits that from all the original German documents he saw, there is no way to prove that the Germans where planning and carrying out a war of agression!! They felt encircled and that is exactly what they were!!

Is that so difficult to understand?

 

[dudalb]

Even stranger, one of the later war SS divisions was made up of French fascists. This included five pro-French vietnamese soldiers. Imagine how confused those men were about the SS "master race" propaganda.

Oh it gets better then that. Some of the units the SS formed in 1943 were almost all Asians from the Crimea and the Cacauses mountains,whose fate under Stalin was not pretty.
The later war recruiting policy of the "elite 100% Aryan" SS indeed shows what a total fail the Master Race was.

 

[dudalb]

Oh look.
He's back...presumably planning on ignoring everything that was put to him last time round.
.

Yeah, that's the way the Lying Dutchman rolls....

 

[uke2se]

Forget about that quote,

No. I want to know what the source is. Are you going to admit Horst Mahler extracted it rectally?

I gave you post #3258 with this damning sourced quote from Jackson:

If you think that's damning, you're more deluded than I thought.

Jackson admits that from all the original German documents he saw, there is no way to prove that the Germans where planning and carrying out a war of agression!! They felt encircled and that is exactly what they were!!

And yet, in the trial (as opposed to the pre-trial briefings) they proved just that. Justice!

Is that so difficult to understand?

Apparently you are having an extremely difficult time with it. Now, how 'bout you scurry off and find a source for the quote from Horst Mahler.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Oh it gets better then that. Some of the units the SS formed in 1943 were almost all Asians from the Crimea and the Cacauses mountains,whose fate under Stalin was not pretty.
The later war recruiting policy of the "elite 100% Aryan" SS indeed shows what a total fail the Master Race was.

If you have enough American, British and Soviet Lilliputians than even the strongest German Gulliver will be defeated.

So how are you going to beat 750 million Europeans again? Americans are sooo nineties.

Oh, and for your information, while the US government tries to destroy the Euro-American society (with my blessing), the Russians are pulling a Lebensborn of sorts again:

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2010-11/medwedjew-rede-russland-kinder

Medvedew yesterday said that he wants to encourage big families again.
He is the first European leader making these sort of noices.

 

[uke2se]

If you have enough American, British and Soviet Lilliputians than even the strongest German Gulliver will be defeated.

So how are you going to beat 750 million Europeans again? Americans are sooo nineties.

Oh, and for your information, while the US government tries to destroy the Euro-American society (with my blessing), the Russians are pulling a Lebensborn of sorts again:

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2010-11/medwedjew-rede-russland-kinder

Medvedew yesterday said that he wants to encourage big families again.
He is the first European leader making these sort of noices.

It's going to be sooo funny when nein-11 and his Nazi chums show up on the barricades after taking enough hallucinogenics and find out that there's just a handful of them and the rest of us Europeans point at them and laugh.

 

[9/11-investigator]

No. I want to know what the source is. Are you going to admit Horst Mahler extracted it rectally?

I got it from Anglos.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/HomePage28April2009/holocaust_lie/holocaust_lie.htm

"To this Jackson retorted: 'Who’s talking about a fair trial? Of course the Germans will try to accuse the Allies of pursuing a policy that forced them into war. I expect that, since I know about the documents seized from the German Foreign Office. They all come to the same conclusion: "We have no way out. We must fight; we are encircled; we are being strangled:" Well, it would be a catastrophe if this trial got into a discussion about the political and economic causes of the war. That could cause an unending disaster in both America and Europe . . . .

I agree that the first sentence differs from the Avalon text.
Maybe that text is doctored, maybe even Anglo revisionists are trash as well.

And yet, in the trial (as opposed to the pre-trial briefings) they proved just that. Justice!

They did nothing of the sort. They condemned Germany for invading Norway while agreeying on not mentioning British and French war declarations and subsequent preparing to invade Norway first.

That's not justice, that's a scam.

But it does not matter, we Europeans (in Europe and America) have you now in the corner and we go for the kill. First 9/11 and that will be the triggering point to start an avelange for historic reinterpretation.

And you are going to lose big time.

 

[9/11-investigator]

It's going to be sooo funny when nein-11 and his Nazi chums show up on the barricades after taking enough hallucinogenics and find out that there's just a handful of them and the rest of us Europeans point at them and laugh.

Laugh all you want, we are in the majority. And you are going to feel that sooner than you think.

Today's poll in the Netherlands:
http://www.stand.nl/
69% agree that illegals should be punished.

We are total fed up with third world crime.
The situation in Holland is explosive.
Almost 98% of crime goes unpunished.
Switserland voted yesterday to kick criminal foreigners out, even for minor offences.
The tide is turning against the left.

And when Israel, uh sorry, the US will attack Iran, than the real fun will start.

 

[uke2se]

I got it from Anglos.

http://www.adelaideinstitute.org/HomePage28April2009/holocaust_lie/holocaust_lie.htm

You got it from a Nazi who got it from another Nazi, you mean. Gotcha. Rectally produced, in other words. Glad we cleared that up.

I agree that the first sentence differs from the Avalon text.
Maybe that text is doctored, maybe even Anglo revisionists are trash as well.

It's clearly doctored to make the quote-mine support Mahler's case.

They did nothing of the sort. They condemned Germany for invading Norway while agreeying on not mentioning British and French war declarations and subsequent preparing to invade Norway first.

Germany did invade Norway. The British and French weren't on trial.

Let's see if you got it: Did Germany invade Norway, yes or no?

That's not justice, that's a scam.

If the sole piece of evidence for the war of aggression accusation was the invasion of Norway, you may have had a point. As it stands, it wasn't. Loads of other nations were invaded by Germany in a clear cut war of aggression.

But it does not matter, we Europeans (in Europe and America) have you now in the corner and we go for the kill. First 9/11 and that will be the triggering point to start an avelange for historic reinterpretation.

Again (since you apparently can't get it through your skull), I'm European, and I happen to know that you're somewhat of a minority in Europe. Europeans don't like your kind. Europeans helped kick your kind's butt 65 years ago and we don't want you back. You're not wanted. You should leave.

And you are going to lose big time.

What are you and your handful of Nazi dunceheads going to do? Whine some more on the internet?



Scary.

 

[uke2se]

Laugh all you want, we are in the majority. And you are going to feel that sooner than you think.

Today's poll in the Netherlands:
http://www.stand.nl/
69% agree that illegals should be punished.

We are total fed up with third world crime.
The situation in Holland is explosive.
Almost 98% of crime goes unpunished.
Switserland voted yesterday to kick criminal foreigners out, even for minor offences.
The tide is turning against the left.

It's like arguing with a child that can't read for comprehension.

YOU ARE THE MINORITY. EUROPEANS DON'T LIKE NAZIS. YOU SHOULD LEAVE!

FFS... an internet poll about illegal immigration and nein-11 goes bananas...

 

[9/11-investigator]

Oh look.
He's back...presumably planning on ignoring everything that was put to him last time round.

I'll do Hiroshima...they consistently refused to acknowledge unconditional surrender. It's not as if the Potsdam declaration was exactly onerous.

There you go. That was easy.

Back to Hiroshima... even I bought into the 'we have to avoid capturing all these island' BS story. This is too good to let go. What a propaganda coup. Can you imagine that? The Americans deliberately frying 200,000 Japanese for testing purposes? This is going to be a very nice item for my blog!

We are not going to let Tolls getting away with this, that easy.
Tolls apparantly agress that the Japanese wanted to surrender but not 'unconditionally'.

So Tolls, what according to you, were these conditions that justified the cold blooded murder of 200,000 innocent civilians?


Well Tolls is sneakingly clever enough not to mention the condition, because he knows darned well that the condition never could be a justification of the wholesale slaughter of 200,000 innocent people.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v16/v16n3p-4_Weber.html

So what was the condition? The Japanese wanted to keep their emperor. And in the end the got what they wanted. But not until sadistic Americans had carried out their precious little atomic test on real people. Until that moment the emperor issue was used to commit mass murder, just like the American love it: murder people from great altitude. In Japan, in Germany and in Vietnam.

That the dirty little secret. The inglorious Americans had thousands worth of mengele's in their own ranks.

 

[9/11-investigator]

It's like arguing with a child that can't read for comprehension.
YOU ARE THE MINORITY. EUROPEANS DON'T LIKE NAZIS. YOU SHOULD LEAVE!
FFS... an internet poll about illegal immigration and nein-11 goes bananas...

uke2se impotently is holding on to his Nazi smear. It worked in the past.
Now it will be a nice auto-identifier for the likes of uke2se in the near future.

What does that mean that '9/11-investigator is a Nazi'?

Well?

 

[uke2se]

uke2se impotently is holding on to his Nazi smear. It worked in the past.
Now it will be a nice auto-identifier for the likes of uke2se in the near future.

You yourself said that being called a Nazi was a compliment. I'm just complimenting you, Nazi.

What does that mean that '9/11-investigator is a Nazi'?

Well?

It means you have a distorted view of history, a rabid hatred of everyone and everything that isn't you and probably that you're a violent individual. Basically, I wouldn't want to be your neighbor.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Germany did invade Norway. The British and French weren't on trial.

Let's see if you got it: Did Germany invade Norway, yes or no?

The British and French won, hence they were not on trial.
In a real trial the judge never is one of the conflicting parties.
That's called independent justice.
Is that so difficult to understand for you?

If the sole piece of evidence for the war of aggression accusation was the invasion of Norway, you may have had a point. As it stands, it wasn't. Loads of other nations were invaded by Germany in a clear cut war of aggression.

Not any more.

- Britain and France were invading Norway. Hence Germany was forced to invade Western Europe.
- The USSR wanted to invade Europe on July 10. Hence the Germans invaded Russia.

Do not believe me, after all I might be an evil Nazi.
It is what Jackson himself said. I showed you the quotes!!!

Again (since you apparently can't get it through your skull), I'm European, and I happen to know that you're somewhat of a minority in Europe. Europeans don't like your kind. Europeans helped kick your kind's butt 65 years ago and we don't want you back. You're not wanted. You should leave.

Get it in your skull: British, Americans and Soviets are not Europeans. They are enemies of Europe. They gang-raped Europe.

Nobody likes commies these days, they are defeated. By themselves.
Anglos are next, they will self-defeat.
And then you lefties are alone with us.

And I severely doubt you are Swedish. You don't give a s*** about Sweden.
I am not going to say what I think you are in order to avoid anti-semitism accusations.

 

[uke2se]

The British and French won, hence they were not on trial.
In a real trial the judge never is one of the conflicting parties.
That's called independent justice.
Is that so difficult to understand for you?

It's a yes or no question. Did Germany invade Norway, yes or no?

Is that so difficult to understand for you?

Not any more.

- Britain and France were invading Norway. Hence Germany was forced to invade Western Europe.
- The USSR wanted to invade Europe on July 10. Hence the Germans invaded Russia.

That defense didn't hold up in court. Besides, it doesn't explain Greece, Yugoslavia, the Netherlands, Belgium or Luxembourg.

Do not believe me, after all I might be an evil Nazi.
It is what Jackson himself said. I showed you the quotes!!!

No, that's what your Nazi mind thinks Jackson said. Rational people understood Jackson.

Get it in your skull: British, Americans and Soviets are not Europeans. They are enemies of Europe. They gang-raped Europe.

Get it in your skull: That is delusional clap-trap!

Nobody likes commies these days, they are defeated. By themselves.
Anglos are next, they will self-defeat.
And then you lefties are alone with us.

Nobody likes Nazis since the war, they are defeated. By Europeans, Anglos, Soviets and Chinese.
The few remaining Nazis aren't a threat, they will defeat themselves eventually.
And then you are left with no purpose.

And I severely doubt you are Swedish.

I don't give a F'.

You don't give a s*** about Sweden.

I care more about Sweden than you do about justice, peace or history.

I am not going to say what I think you are in order to avoid anti-semitism accusations.

Too late for that, Nazi. Your antisemitism is seeping through the monitor for every post of yours I read.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I am completely satisfied with the answers uke2se just gave.

 

[uke2se]

I am completely satisfied with the answers uke2se just gave.

I am glad. So am I. Then we can both agree that you are a Nazi, that Germany did invade Norway, that Germany waged a war of aggression against European nations like Greece, Yugoslavia, the Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg among others, that Jackson did have a case but was facing a difficult political situation requiring him to focus on the (very real) charges against the Nazi criminals, that you post delusional clap-trap, that nobody likes Nazis and that Nazis are never going to be a threat to peace and stability in the world again, that you don't care about justice, peace or history, and that you are an anti-semite.

As long as we agree.

 

[Corsair 115]

Was the attack necessary? The official Allied justification is: 'well if we had not dropped the bombs we would have been forced to capture island after island with likely more casualties as a result than these 2 bombs demanded'.

0:26 - Lies.

Irving was looking for an order to drop the bomb; he found the order that the discharge was approved but not before August 2.

On July 13 1945, 4 weeks before Hiroshima, there was a Japanse message intercepted and decoded by the Allies from the Tokyo foreign ministery to the ambassy in Moscow. The ambassador was instructed to go to Stalin and ask him to help broker a peace. Japan was ready to surrender immediately.

That's July 13.

The ambassador could not carry out the order because Stalin already had left for Potsdam to meet Churchill and Truman. Besides, the Soviets were keen on entering the war against Japan in order to get reparations and Japanese islands.

On July 15 the message was repeated stating that it was a direct order from the emperor himself.

On August 13, 1945, after the Russians had declared war on Japan and attacked the Japanese in Manchuria, after two Japanese cities had been destroyed by atomic bombs, and after the U.S. had resumed conventional bombing operations against Japanese targets, the Japanese cabinet was still deadlocked over the issue of surrendering.

Were it not for the Emperor personally intervening and coming down on the side of surrender at that meeting, the war would have continued. In spite of a Russian declaration of war. In spite of two cities vanishing under atomic bombs. In spite of hundreds of B-29s once again dropping bombs. That's how determined some in the Japanese government were to fighting to the death.

Indeed, even though the Emperor himself had forced the decision on behalf of surrendering (a completely unusual occurrence since the Emperor almost never interfered in government policy and decisions) there was an attempted coup to prevent the surrender message from being broadcast.

So any suggestion that the Japanese government was completely united in its desire to surrender unconditionally in mid-July is laughable and without factual support.