Who started both World Wars?

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Saggy said:
What do you make of this quote from the Floyd article .....

"The mass British counter-raids aimed at "breaking the enemy's morale" were targeted almost exclusively against the "lower orders," who died by the hundreds of thousands ............. Yet the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders (the very men who had ordered the blitz on English cities) and major Nazi industrialists (who, along with their American partners like Prescott Bush, had built Hitler's war machine) were specifically excluded from the attacks. What stirring chivalry among the warrior elite!"
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How did they specifically exclude them, when their bombing technology was so innaccurate, they did well if they hit the right country?
 
Where is the order that prohibited the RAF from bombing 'the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders '?

Were these 'the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders ' located in the areas routinely bombed?

How do you find a single 'the sumptuous, undefended villa' at night?

Why would there be a prohibition on bombing 'the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders'?
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
Where is the order that prohibited the RAF from bombing 'the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders '?

Were these 'the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders ' located in the areas routinely bombed?

How do you find a single 'the sumptuous, undefended villa' at night?

Why would there be a prohibition on bombing 'the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders'?
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Saggy seeks to recruit idiots to the Neo-Nasty cause. So he posts inane garbage and hooks up with whomever buys it. Nothing has changed since 1923.
 
9/11-investigator said:
The absolute horror, a racist! :D

The word 'racism' btw is an invention by a Jew (who else?), Magnus Hirschfeld (I see he also promoted gay rights and feminism, 2 other ticking time bombs under our society: white women on average hardly have more than 1 child. Anybody smelling an agenda here?). It is a word designed by the enemies of European civilization with the intention to bring said civilization down and convert it into a half European/African jungle (go and have a look in Detroit to have an idea what is ahead for Eurosphere) where the Jews can rule using this word racism as a tyrannical whip. Basically racial Bolshevism replacing economic Bolshevism as the new strategy of the Jews to attain global supremacy (NWO).

Well I have got some news for you, even Euro-Americans prefer to be among themselves. However most of them are afraid to admit that (because of the power of political correctness, another Jewish invention).

But I am the first to admit that the loss of racial identity of the Hillbillies or the British is far less catastropic for the realization of the final evolutionary potential of mankind as an interplanetary colonist than that of Europeans.

Anglo racism is indeed a bit of a joke really. In fact hyper-nervous CptColumbo could use a little bit of color himself. Good luck while you guys Brazilianise yourself! Send us a postcard from Copa-ca-Florida, will ya?

Interesting 'best countries of the world' ranking by Newsweek. Obviously white nations are on top, African countries at the bottom. Reason: different racial abilities, a fact every 19th century European knew (White Men's burden), but is now forbidden to say so because of the Auschwitz-story, the Jews invented at Nuremberg.

The only reason why the US is still in position 11 is because of the post-WW2 framework of institutions (first of all the dollar as global reserve currency) that were all designed in America's favour. When the dollar crashes, the US will fall back to current Brasil level ($10,000/capita), where it belongs. For racial reasons.
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The sad thing is that it never occurs to people like you that if the stereotypes are true, once the races have blended into one it will be a good thing. Think of it highly intelligent, super athletic, people with a strong work ethic, who are good with money, and have men with large penises, and women with round supple booties... It'd be awesome.
 
The other day I saw Inglorious Basterds for the first time. 9/11, do NOT watch this movie without a generous supply of kleenex.
 
dudalb said:
Oh, I bet that Neanderthals are really proud to have Nein 11 as a fellow citizen.....
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Redtail said:
The sad thing is that it never occurs to people like you that if the stereotypes are true, once the races have blended into one it will be a good thing. Think of it highly intelligent, super athletic, people with a strong work ethic, who are good with money, and have men with large penises, and women with round supple booties... It'd be awesome.
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Maybe he's against this because he knows he won't be included in all the interbreeding.
 
Belz... said:
MY point was that I don't care about IQ because it doesn't mean squat. And it certainly isn't an argument in any debate.
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It does raise one question though: How can someone supposedly as smart as our intrepid 9/11 investigator be dumb enough to believe the tripe he's posted here?
 
9/11-investigator said:
Finally he gets his sadistic way with Dresden...

"Emboldened, he presses for yet another feast of fire and death. He gets it: a bombing raid on a non-military target, a cultural center, a city glutted with refugees, slave laborers and prisoners of war -- his own soldiers and those of his allies. The raid kills 35,000 people or more; no one knows for sure, because the city is completely pulverized -- and is bombed again immediately afterward, with special high explosives, in an attempt to kill any survivors hiding in the ruins."

That's 135,000 people killed.
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We've already covered this. I posted the direct military targets that were in Dresden; I posted the fact that firestorms could not be created on demand; I and others already posted your 135,000 casualty figure is a complete fabrication.

It's already been demonstrated the 'facts' in the quote you offered are false. You repeating these falsehoods will not make them any more true this time than last time. In fact, that you return to repeating such falsehoods yet again after having them shown to be false just illustrates the degree of your intellectual dishonesty.
 
Yes, it does. The belief comes from the fact that he believes we've all been duped and he and his fellow pseudo historians he has a privileged understanding denied to the rest of us. It's part of his retreat into a fantasy world. The fantasy is real so anything that contradicts it is wrong. You're probably not doing him any favors by responding to him. The responses only make him feel special and encourages the behavior and the fantasy.
 
Saggy said:
What do you make of this quote from the Floyd article .....

"The mass British counter-raids aimed at "breaking the enemy's morale" were targeted almost exclusively against the "lower orders," who died by the hundreds of thousands ............. Yet the sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders (the very men who had ordered the blitz on English cities) and major Nazi industrialists (who, along with their American partners like Prescott Bush, had built Hitler's war machine) were specifically excluded from the attacks. What stirring chivalry among the warrior elite!"
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What do I make of it? I'd say it's the ranting of someone who doesn't know a damn thing about the combined bomber offensive. I've already posted some relevant information about the CBO earlier in this thread; I suggest you find and read those posts. Then, if you have any follow-up questions, ask them and I'll do my best to answer.

Floyd's rant doesn't even make any logical sense: if the goal is to cause the general dislocation and disruption of the German war economy, then naturally you're going to go after the areas where such dislocation and disruption have the most effect, and that means cities. Bombing the "sumptuous, undefended villas of Nazi leaders" is militarily useless in terms of impacting war production.


Craig4 said:
You're probably not doing him any favors by responding to him. The responses only make him feel special and encourages the behavior and the fantasy.
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I don't respond for his benefit; I respond for the benefit of any lurkers in this thread. I myself lurked on the JREF forums for quite some time before taking the plunge and becoming a registered user.
 
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Gawdzilla said:
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I forget who it was, but a writer in 1939 described the Nazis as "Neandrathals with Airplanes". A couple of years later he wrote that he regretted writing that..it was grossly unfair to Neandrathals.
 
9/11-investigator said:
Any idea what language they are speaking in Austria and Sudentenland?

Any idea how enthusiastically the reception was of German troops in Austria? Go and have a look on youtube. Far, far more enthusiastically as the reception of the Americans was in Bagdad (or Saigon).
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So you were wrong when you said that Germany's motivation was that they "wanted Danzig back and corridor to East-Prussia."

And it still doesn't explain the rest of Czechslovakia being invaded.

While you're at it, can you explain why Germany kept breaking non-aggression pacts they had signed? The one with Poland and USSR should be a good start. Did they forget about them? They must have been given a copy in German.
 
And explain why if all they wanted was Danzig and a corridor, they ,from almost the first days of occupation, set about systemically trying to destroy Poland as a nation.
 
aggle-rithm said:
The other day I saw Inglorious Basterds for the first time. 9/11, do NOT watch this movie without a generous supply of kleenex.
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Whoa! Careful! He might see the first scene and get the wrong idea about the kleenex! :boxedin:
 
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