Who started both World Wars?

[Gawdzilla Sama]

It would be nice if he actually got round to answering a question or two.

His answer would have to be a version of "I'm wrong, you're right." So we're never going to see an answer from him. Just more diversions and red herrings.

 

[Andy_Ross]

I am surprised that Benjamin Disraeli hasn't been mentioned by Mr Investigator. A Jewish prime Minister no less and founder of the modern Conservative party.

 

[9/11-investigator]

I am surprised that Benjamin Disraeli hasn't been mentioned by Mr Investigator. A Jewish prime Minister no less and founder of the modern Conservative party.

Why should I mention a Jew who died in 1881 in a thread about WW1/2?

The thread btw is drawing to a close.
I have the answers I was looking for so I can finish my blog.

Stay tuned.

 

[aggle-rithm]

The thread btw is drawing to a close.
I have the answers I was looking for so I can finish my blog.

I suspect you had the answers before you started.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Why should I mention a Jew who died in 1881 in a thread about WW1/2?

The thread btw is drawing to a close.
I have the answers I was looking for so I can finish my blog.

Stay tuned.

(That one's going to get a LOT of use.)

 

[Andy_Ross]

Why should I mention a Jew who died in 1881 in a thread about WW1/2?

The thread btw is drawing to a close.
I have the answers I was looking for so I can finish my blog.

Stay tuned.

Wouldn't he have some bearing on it? If Britain is controlled by the Jews I would have thought you could have dragged him in. You seem to have jumped forwards and backwards in time at random in your quest for Cherries so far.

 

[aggle-rithm]

Wouldn't he have some bearing on it? If Britain is controlled by the Jews I would have thought you could have dragged him in. You seem to have jumped forwards and backwards in time at random in your quest for Cherries so far.

Haven't you been listening? Britain is controlled by American Jews!

The governor of New York, the secretary of the Treasury...you know, guys like that.

 

[Belz...]

And you liked killing Asian commies as well. We can safely conclude that Gawdzilla likes killing in general.

Well, at least you've remained consistent in your ability to form conclusions from available evidence.

 

[stilicho]

Haven't you been listening? Britain is controlled by American Jews!

The governor of New York, the secretary of the Treasury...you know, guys like that.

Does NEI still think after sixty pages that neither world war started until the UK and/or the US joined in?

 

[Corsair 115]

Ah, but the poor beleaguered Nazis were FORCED to defend themselves by successively invading bordering countries, and some non-bordering countries, by the nasty ole' democracies.

Not only were they forced to defend themselves, they were forced to defend themselves in spectacularly stupid ways!

"We're losing fighters against the RAF, what should we do?"
"Cut fighter production."

"We only have enough fuel to get halfway to our objectives. What should we do?"
"Launch the offensive."

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Not only were they forced to defend themselves, they were forced to defend themselves in spectacularly stupid ways!

"We're losing fighters against the RAF, what should we do?"
"Cut fighter production."

"We only have enough fuel to get halfway to our objectives. What should we do?"
"Launch the offensive."

We should build tanks that can't do two things. Travel off-road. Travel on-road.

 

[Corsair 115]

We should build tanks that can't do two things. Travel off-road. Travel on-road.

I think we could have some fun here.


"American fighters are extending their range! What do we do?"
"American fighters are not extending their range."

"We need more U-boats in the Atlantic. What do we do?"
"Send additional U-boats to the Mediterranean."

"Heinkel has built a jet fighter prototype that is much faster than any other fighter we have in service. What do we do?"
"Build more Messerschmitt 109s."

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

"We have the world's fastest fighter!"
"Good, make it a bomber with a load equal to the BEST World War ONE bomber!"

 

[9/11-investigator]

Haven't you been listening? Britain is controlled by American Jews!

The governor of New York, the secretary of the Treasury...you know, guys like that.

You are close but the key figure in getting the WW2 started in Europe was Franklin Delano Roosevelt and his cabal. The timeline starts with the 1933 'Judea declares war on Germany' commitment. It is this cabal that put pressure on Roosevelt (in as far as any pressure was needed on this war monger with Sefardic roots). Roosevelt, the first globalist, put pressure on Britain and France to declare war on Germany. Deceptively he promised aid to the Poles, but in the end he gave Poland to his Soviet Allie on a silver platter. Roosevelt never cared about the fate of Poland, neither did Britain btw. It was all about defeating Germany, the country that had decided to kick the Jews out.

The great American historian, Harry Elmer Barnes, believed that war could probably have been prevented in 1939 if it had not been for Roosevelt's meddling. "Indeed, there is fairly conclusive evidence that, but for Mr. Roosevelt's pressure on Britain, France and Poland, and his commitments to them before September 1939, especially to Britain, and the irresponsible antics of his agent provocateur, William C. Bullitt, there would probably have been no world war in 1939, or, perhaps, for many years thereafter."[46] In Revisionism: A Key to Peace, Barnes wrote:

President Roosevelt had a major responsibility, both direct and indirect, for the outbreak of war in Europe. He began to exert pressure on France to stand up to Hitler as early as the German reoccupation of the Rhineland in March 1936, months before he was making his strongly isolationist speeches in the campaign of 1936. This pressure on France, and also England, continued right down to the coming of the war in September 1939. It gained volume and momentum after the quarantine speech of October 1937. As the crisis approached between Munich and the outbreak of war, Roosevelt pressed the Poles to stand firm against any demands by Germany, and urged the English and French to back up the Poles unflinchingly.

There is grave doubt that England would have gone to war in September 1939 had it not been for Roosevelt's encouragement and his assurances that, in the event of war, the United States would enter on the side of Britain just as soon as he could swing American public opinion around to support intervention.

Roosevelt had abandoned all semblance of neutrality, even before war broke out in 1939, and moved as speedily as was safe and feasible in the face of anti-interventionist American public opinion to involve this country in the European conflict.[47]

[46]. Harry Elmer Barnes, The Struggle Against the Historical Blackout, 2nd ed. (N.p.: privately published, ca. 1948), p. 12. See also the 9th, final revised and enlarged edition (N.p.: privately published, ca. 1954), p. 34; this booklet is reprinted in Barnes, Selected Revisionist Pamphlets.
[47]. Harry Elmer Barnes, "Revisionism: A Key to Peace," Rampart Journal of Individualist Thought Vol. II, No. 1 (Spring 1966), pp. 29-30. This article was republished in Barnes, Revisionism: A Key to Peace and Other Essays (San Francisco: Cato Institute [Cato Paper No. 12], 1980).

Source.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

as early as the German reoccupation of the Rhineland in March 1936,

Okay, so Hitler is expanding his military base and FDR sees that as YET ANOTHER THING BAD ABOUT ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊. Shame on him for saying, "Can you do something about this prick before he gets out of control and kills a few million people?"

 

[9/11-investigator]

When the Germans invaded Poland, there was a surprise attack that enabled a forward unit of the German army to capture secret documents from the Polish Foreign Ministery in Warsaw, preventing Polish officials from burning them. These papers were later translated from Polish into English, admittedly as part of the German propaganda effort to keep America out of the war. But there can be no doubt about the authenticity of the documents. These documents clearly show the crucial role that Roosevelt had played in bringing the war about as well as the forces behind Roosevelt (Jews). All documents are reports from high ranking Polish ambassadors who were not necessarily pro-German, far from it. The ambassadors clearly saw that it were the American Jews who were pushing for war. But then again Poles have expert knowledge of Jews after being priviliged of living together with them for centuries.

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v04/v04p135_Weber.html

According to the author Mark Weber:

Hitler felt compelled to resort to arms when he did in response to a growing Polish campaign of terror and dispossession against the one and a half million ethnic Germans under Polish rule. In my view, if ever a military action was justified, it was the German campaign against Poland in 1939.

Many think that the Poles were surprised by the attack. They were not. Remember that the Polish army was fully mobilized. They thought they had the backing of Britain, France and most of all the US. And they had a rather high regard of themselves. On all accounts they misjudged the situation:

Considering the lightning swiftness of the victorious German campaign, it is difficult to realize today that the Polish government did not at all fear war with Germany. Poland's leaders foolishly believed that German might was only an illusion. They were convinced that their troops would occupy Berlin itself within a few weeks and add further German territories to an enlarged Polish state. It is also important to keep in mind that the purely localized conflict between Germany and Poland was only transformed into a Europe-wide conflagration by the British and French declarations of war against Germany.

As yet another example of the total farce that the Nuremberg Tribunal was, the Polish documents discussed here, were not admitted as proof (they were too incriminating for the Americans):

After the war the Allied-appointed judges at the International Military Tribunal staged at Nuremberg refused to admit the Polish documents as evidence for the German defense. Had these pieces of evidence been admitted, the Nuremberg undertaking might have been less a victors' show trial and more a genuinely impartial court of international justice.

Earlier in this thread I already introduced America's 2 main diplomats in Europe on the eve of the war: Bullitt (part Jewish) and Joseph Kennedy (father of FDR). Bullitt was Roosevelt's most important man in bringing about the war in Europe. Kennedy, the 'antisemite' (antisemite as in knowing what the Jews are up to) was Bullitt's antipode.

Now about the Polish documents that the Germans found in Warsaw/1939:

On 9 February 1938, the Polish Ambassador in Washington, Count Jerzy Potocki, reported to the Foreign Minister in Warsaw on the Jewish role in making American foreign policy:
The pressure of the Jews on President Roosevelt and on the State Department is becoming ever more powerful ... The Jews are right now the leaders in creating a war psychosis which would plunge the entire world into war and bring about general catastrophe. This mood is becoming more and more apparent. in their definition of democratic states, the Jews have also created real chaos: they have mixed together the idea of democracy and communism and have above all raised the banner of burning hatred against Nazism. This hatred has become a frenzy. It is propagated everywhere and by every means: in theaters, in the cinema, and in the press. The Germans are portrayed as a nation living under the arrogance of Hitler which wants to conquer the whole world and drown all of humanity in an ocean of blood.

[911I: That was in 1938, before war broke out. It is not difficult to imagine that these kind of people were able to invent a hollowcaust]

In conversations with Jewish press representatives I have repeatedly come up against the inexorable and convinced view that war is inevitable. This international Jewry exploits every means of propaganda to oppose any tendency towards any kind of consolidation and understanding between nations. In this way, the conviction is growing steadily but surely in public opinion here that the Germans and their satellites, in the form of fascism, are enemies who must be subdued by the 'democratic world.'

It is obvious if Count Jerzy Potocki had participated in this thread he would have voted for 'Jews' in answering the question as to who started WW2.


Than there is this report, again by Potocki, about the climate of hysteria in America, created by the Jewish mass media. This hysteria is still prevalent on this forum with my most esteemed opponents:

Of all the documents in this collection, the most revealing is probably the secret report by Ambassador Potocki of 12 January 1939 which dealt with the domestic situation in the United States. This report is given here in full:

The feeling now prevailing in the United States is marked by a growing hatred of Fascism and, above all, of Chancellor Hitler and everything connected with Nazism. Propaganda is mostly in the hands of the Jews who control almost 100 percent radio, film, daily and periodical press…

Right now most Americans regard Chancellor Hitler and Nazism as the greatest evil and greatest danger threatening the world.

It is interesting to note that in this extremely well-planned campaign which is conducted above all against National Socialism, Soviet Russia is almost completely excluded. If mentioned at all, it is only in a friendly manner and things are presented in such a way as if Soviet Russia were working with the bloc of democratic states. Thanks to the clever propaganda the sympathy of the American public is completely on the side of Red Spain.

Ah well, Jews and their affinity with communism. After all it was their system, they designed and implemented it --> tens of millions died.

 

[Gawdzilla Sama]

Do people ALWAYS look foolish when they cite ihr.org?

Rhetorical, btw.

 

[ddt]

Roosevelt (in as far as any pressure was needed on this war monger with Sefardic roots).

Any evidence for this? I need a laugh. Dutch Sefardic Jews (ordinarily called "Portuguese Jews" in Dutch) typically carry Spanish or Portuguese names. Roosevelt is a Dutch name.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Do people ALWAYS look foolish when they cite ihr.org?

The idea of a discussion forum is to explain why this particular article is 'foolish'. And btw this article merely quotes from Polish documents. Any reason to doubt the veracity of these documents?

On 16 January 1939, Polish Ambassador Potocki reported to the Warsaw Foreign Ministry on another lengthy conversation he had with Roosevelt's personal envoy, William Bullitt:

The contents of these directives, as Bullitt explained them to me in the course of a conversation lasting half an hour, were:

1. The vitalizing of foreign policy under the leadership of President Roosevelt, who severely and unambiguously condemns totalitarian countries.
2. United States preparations for war on sea, land and air will be carried out at an accelerated pace and will consume the colossal sum of 1.25 billion dollars.
3. It is the decided opinion of the President that France and Britain must put an end to any sort of compromise with the totalitarian countries. They must not get into any discussions aiming at any kind of territorial changes.
4. They have the moral assurance that the United States will abandon the policy of isolation and be prepared to intervene actively on the side of Britain and France in case of war. America is ready to place its whole wealth of money and raw materials at their disposal.

Mind you, this is more than 7 months before the invasion of Poland!

 

[ddt]

"We need the Ukrainians on our side!"
"Good, let's shoot 20 hostages for every soldier killed in a partisan attack!"