Who started both World Wars?

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And US commitment to war was not restricted to declaring intentions in private talks with Polish ambassadors, they were talking about arms deliveries as well:

In a confidential telegram to Washington dated 9 April 1939, Bullitt reported from Paris on another conversation with Ambassador Lukasiewicz. He had told the Polish envoy that although U.S. law prohibited direct financial aid to Poland, it might be possible to circumvent its provisions. The Roosevelt administration might be able to supply war planes to Poland indirectly through Britain. "The Polish Ambassador asked me if it might not be possible for Poland to obtain financial help and aeroplanes from the United States. I replied that I believed the Johnson Act would forbid any loans from the United States to Poland but added that it might be possible for England to purchase planes for cash in the United States and turn them over to Poland."[24]


Bullitt in talks with a journalist, no doubt with the intention that von Wiegand will drum up support via his newspaper for the coming war. No veiled remarks, but instead blunt announcement of things to come:

On 25 April 1939, four months before the outbreak of war, Bullitt called American newspaper columnist Karl von Wiegand, chief European correspondent of the International News Service, to the U.S. embassy in Paris and told him: "War in Europe has been decided upon. Poland has the assurance of the support of Britain and France, and will yield to no demands from Germany. America will be in the war soon after Britain and France enter it."[25]

More confirmation about America's intentions from Czechoslovakia:

In a lengthy secret conversation at Hyde Park on 28 May 1939, Roosevelt assured the former President of Czechoslovakia, Dr. Edvard Benes, that America would actively intervene on the side of Britain and France in the anticipated European war.[26]

Same story from France:

Many years after the war, Georges Bonnet, the French Foreign Minister in 1939, confirmed Bullitt's role as Roosevelt's deputy in pushing his country into war. In a letter to Hamilton Fish dated 26 March 1971, Bonnet wrote: "One thing is certain is that Bullitt in 1939 did everything he could to make France enter the war."[28]
 
The real war fever was not in Poland, but in the West!

When Ambassador Potocki was back in Warsaw on leave from his post in Washington, he spoke with Count Jan Szembek, the Polish Foreign Ministry Under-Secretary, about the growing danger of war. In his diary entry of 6 July 1939, Szembek recorded Potocki's astonishment at the calm mood in Poland. In comparison with the war psychosis that had gripped the West, Poland seemed like a rest home.

"In the West," the Ambassador told Szembek, "there are all kinds of elements openly pushing for war: the Jews, the super-capitalists, the arms dealers. Today they are all ready for a great business, because they have found a place which can be set on fire: Danzig; and a nation that is ready to fight: Poland. They want to do business on our backs. They are indifferent to the destruction of our country. Indeed, since everything will have to be rebuilt later on, they can profit from that as well."[30]

I could post a lot more but I see that my opponents have given up on defending their position. Tomorrow I will wrap it all up and will answer the question I posed myself in my first post.
 
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Don't laugh too quick... Roosevelt's ancestors changed their name from Rossocampo when came to Holland after being 'evacuated' from Iberia.

Source.

Do you have any idea to what kind of nutjob you linked? "Watchman" Willie Martin is a member of a fringe Christian cult called "British Israelism", who think that the Western Europeans (Anglo-Saxons, Germans, etc.) are the true descendants of the people of Israel. From another writing of the same nutjob, called "Who are the Jews":
The group of nations which we loosely group under the term Anglo-Saxon, includes the people of the British Isles, the Scandinavian, countries, nearly all of Germany, Holland, and some few of the people of France and Belgium. [...] All these people are the living descendants of the people named Israel of the Bible. We are blood brothers of our Savior, Yahshua.
Well, nutjobs is too kind. They're racists too. Another minister whose writings are featured on the same site, Wesley Swift, was a member of the KKK, if that wasn't already clear enough.

Now, should I trust the writings of such a nutjob?
Additional information regarding the nationality of the Roosevelt family, was given by Chase S. Osborn, early in 1934, at St. Petersburg, Florida. Mr. Osborn was formerly Governor of Michigan. [...] He referred to the ‘Jewish ancestry’ of the President, explaining how he is a descendant of the Rossocampo family expelled from Spain in 1620. Seeking safety in German, Holland and other countries, members of the family, he said, changed their name to Rosenberg, Rosenbaum, Rosenblum, Rosenvelt and Rosenthal.
Can you provide me with a date for the article in the Petersburg Times? Can you show the genealogical information that has been gathered by Mr. Osborn? Why would Osborn do that at all, BTW?

He continues:
The Roosevelts in North Holland finally became Roosevelt, soon becoming apostates with the first generation and others following suit until, the fourth generation, a little storekeeper by the name of Jacobus Roosevelt was the only one who remained true to His Jewish Faith.
This makes the story even more unbelievable. Jews were expelled from Spain in 1492, or had to convert to Christianity. Portugal soon followed suit. So, these "Rossocampos" have lived for several generations in an oppressive regime, hiding their Jewish identity, and once they arrived in a religiously tolerant country, they quickly became apostates? Sorry, does not compute.

Moreover, the name Rossocampo is not attested anywhere as a Sephardic name, e.g., this database turns up nil. The only finds on Google, besides racist hate sites that parrot the above story, are of a Gregory Thompson on http://genforum.genealogy.com/roosevelt/, who keeps parroting the story, including the claim that Roosevelt's ancestor Claes Roosevelt came from Haarlem (near Amsterdam). He regularly underlines the credibility of his claims by using all-caps.

Claes Roosevelt came to Nieuw Amsterdam (New York) shortly before 1649. His ancestry in Holland has not been conclusively traced. The Haarlem claim is not supported by any incidence of the Roosevelt name (or variants thereof) in the 17th century. The better claim is by the village Oud Vossemeer on the island of Tholen. Roosevelt there occurred as a geographical name, and sometime later in the 17th century occurred as a family name. Also the current distribution of the name "Van Rosenvelt" in Holland concentrates around Tholen (link).

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I overlooked another piece of - let's say - sloppy research by your nutjob Willie Martin. You quoted him as writing:
The New York Times of March 14, 1935, quotes the President as saying: “In the distant past my ancestors may have been Jews. All I know about the origin of the Roosevelt family is that they are apparently descended form Claes Martenszen van Roosevelt, who came from Holland.”

Here's the actual letter:
My dear Mr. Slomovitz:

I am grateful to you for your interesting letter of March 4th. I have no idea as to the source of the story which you say came from my old friend, Chase Osborn. All I know about the origin of the Roosevelt family in this country is that all branches bearing the name are apparently descended from Claes Martenssen Van Roosevelt, who came from Holland sometime before 1648—even the year is uncertain. [...]

In the dim distant past they may have been Jews or Catholics or Protestants. What I am more interested in is whether they were good citizens and believers in God. I hope they were both.
Highlighting mine. Incorrect and tendentious quoting, and he quoted the two sentences out of order. I doubt also the letter appeared in the NYT, as it was directed at the editor of the Detroit Jewish Chronicle.
 
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Highlighting mine. Incorrect and tendentious quoting, and he quoted the two sentences out of order. I doubt also the letter appeared in the NYT, as it was directed at the editor of the Detroit Jewish Chronicle.

You were actually very kind here, ddt. Since not only the order was chance, but the other religions were cut out, thereby changing the meaning.

The original version makes it clear that he simply did not know, and allowed for all possibilities. The version presented left other religions out, thus implying the the probability of them being of Jewish origin is rather high. The person who edited this, which is not necessarily our investigation, was simply dishonest.
 
You were actually very kind here, ddt. Since not only the order was chance, but the other religions were cut out, thereby changing the meaning.

The original version makes it clear that he simply did not know, and allowed for all possibilities. The version presented left other religions out, thus implying the the probability of them being of Jewish origin is rather high. The person who edited this, which is not necessarily our investigation, was simply dishonest.

Thanks for writing that out. I had spotted that, and yes, just calling it "tendentious" is too kind.
 
Hitler had plans to invade the Soviet Union as far back as 1925. It wasn't for any noble reasons, such as saving the citizens from Stalin's purges. It was for "Lebensraum," and later, the raw materials of Ukraine. If you want to know some the Reich's attitude towards the people of the Soviet Union you might want to read about Hermann Göring's Green Folder and Herbert Backe's Hunger Plan.
 
Hitler had plans to invade the Soviet Union as far back as 1925. It wasn't for any noble reasons, such as saving the citizens from Stalin's purges. It was for "Lebensraum," and later, the raw materials of Ukraine. If you want to know some the Reich's attitude towards the people of the Soviet Union you might want to read about Hermann Göring's Green Folder and Herbert Backe's Hunger Plan.

You lost Nazi-boy when you got to the word "read".
 
And this is supposed to prove what ?

It's supposed to prove that the US started a war that they were extremely unprepared to fight. That they provoked a world-wide war in order to get into the war in Europe. That it wasn't ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊'s fault at all, he just wanted to pick petunias in the Caucuses and the nasty ole commie/jew/liberal/fags wouldn't let him.

Or something along that line. We'll see if Knicks/11 ever produces this magisterial work he's been promising.
 
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