Who Disrespects NYPD & NYFD

[VespaGuy]

Stop with the rhetoric.

Talk in the real world.

Ok. I'll try again.

You state that "9/11 is not a conspiracy" is a positive claim. I've always considered claims like these to be negative claims. I'd hate to think I'm mistaken, but I'll be happy to admit if I am (and I'll have learned something new!). So please, can you give me an example of a negative claim.

Thanks.

 

[jessicarabbit]

your tactics are exactly like Docker when he was here

It does depend on the meaning of is

I have asked you once to stop harassing me.

 

[beachnut]

707 weight 152727kg

767 weight 156489kg

[SIZE=+1]1 mph = 0.44704 meters per second[/SIZE]

expected KE= 0.5 x 152727 x 268.224 squared = 5493904362 Joules

actual KE= 0.5 x 156489 x 214.579 squared = 3602704636 Joules

Your impact energy for 9/11 is close but the design spec of the 707 impact was low speed landing

it would be 380,800,000 Joules, you are off a factor of 10, just like most CT guys, just missed it by 10 times

 

[Gravy]

I have no desire to speak to him. He changes his position on the tower design as and when the official version requires him to do so.

Geez, Jessica, what am I about to say? Fill in the blank_________________________________

When you make a claim, back it up! Get it? Got it? Good. Now don't do this again. Is that too much to ask, Jessica?

 

[Moving On]

your tactics are exactly like Docker when he was here

It does depend on the meaning of is

YES - compare CTs to each other. Solid evidence.

I'm convinced - it wasn't a conspiracy.

Let's see what happens with that quote.

 

[Moving On]

Ok. I'll try again.

You state that "9/11 is not a conspiracy" is a positive claim. I've always considered claims like these to be negative claims. I'd hate to think I'm mistaken, but I'll be happy to admit if I am (and I'll have learned something new!). So please, can you give me an example of a negative claim.

Thanks.

More rhetoric.

Stop!

Try evidence or something new.

Anything (except for name calling and insinuation - please.)

 

[jessicarabbit]

I started here with the benefit of the doubt for them.

But after time and watching the endless repetition of the same strategy over and over and over without acknowledging new information does make me wonder.

I agree with you.

Linguistic gymnastics.

My belief in 9/11 conspiracy has been seriously fortified by their lack of anything substantial except for a few detail corrections.

The good news is they have served to motivate and inform me so as to increase my efforts to expose this further.

If this is the evidence for no conspiracy then no wonder 83% of Americans doubt the official story in one manner or another.

Very true. As I pointed out to gravy, my belief in a conspiracy was actuall increased by the sources these skeptics direct me to.

 

[jessicarabbit]

Geez, Jessica, what am I about to say? Fill in the blank_________________________________

When you make a claim, back it up! Get it? Got it? Good. Now don't do this again. Is that too much to ask, Jessica?

I have backed it up. Robertson was a leading proponent of the molten at ground zero, his position has now magically transformed to him having no reason to believe there was molten metal there. Go figure

 

[Garb]

I started here with the benefit of the doubt for them.

But after time and watching the endless repetition of the same strategy over and over and over without acknowledging new information does make me wonder.

I agree with you.

Linguistic gymnastics.

My belief in 9/11 conspiracy has been seriously fortified by their lack of anything substantial except for a few detail corrections.

The good news is they have served to motivate and inform me so as to increase my efforts to expose this further.

If this is the evidence for no conspiracy then no wonder 83% of Americans doubt the official story in one manner or another.

Being a spectator in this big thread, I would like to point out that you have not once swayed me. And this is coming from a guy who watched Loose Change and did think there was in fact a conspiracy.

 

[beachnut]

I have provided the calculations for you gravy.

your design impact is off by 10

no cigar

 

[Gravy]

If this is the evidence for no conspiracy then no wonder 83% of Americans doubt the official story in one manner or another.

Yet another ridiculous logical fallacy. The vast majority of Americans believe in Heaven and Hell, so that's evidence that those places exist, right?

 

[jessicarabbit]

Being a spectator in this big thread, I would like to point out that you have not once swayed me. And this is coming from a guy who watched Loose Change and did think there was in fact a conspiracy.

I think that last bit tells us everything we needed to know about you.

 

[jessicarabbit]

Yet another ridiculous logical fallacy. The majority of Americans believe in Heaven and Hell, so those places exist, right?

I would love to see your debunking of heaven and hell.

Why don't you call those people nuybars like you call CTs?

 

[uk_dave]

Very true. As I pointed out to gravy, my belief in a conspiracy was actuall increased by the sources these skeptics direct me to.

Much as a creationist will clutch their bible to their breast and proclaim that their faith in god has only been fortified by their encounter with those who promote the fact of evolution.

Who are you guys kidding?

It can only be yourselves.

 

[Moving On]

LashL,

<snip>I quit arguing over the interview context subject and took it to the bottom line.

You didn't quit arguing about the context and perspective issue; rather, you failed to address it at all. There's a big difference.

As for Dylan's interview "style", do you not agree that it is rather poor form for an interviewer to not even ask the obvious questions that are required to nail down the facts, especially when the interviewer is purportedly seeking the "truth"? I mean, how worthless is it when you cannot even distill from the interview where the person was actually located, what their observations actually were, what opportunity they had to observe, especially when the interviewer knows that these details are critical to the value of the interview?



What observations are those?

Did you see the dissolves there? Were those questions?

I have been there and conducted interviews myself for the film OK? I know how it works.

I am not going to renumerate the observations here. I am sure we will start fresh here with new ones and I will address them in present time.

I am sober.

 

[VespaGuy]

More rhetoric.

Stop!

Sure. I'll stop. Just ONE example of a negtive claim. Just one. Please! And I'll put this to rest. I'm willing to learn.

Try evidence or something new.

I'll move on once this issue is resolved.

 

[Gravy]

I have backed it up. Robertson was a leading proponent of the molten at ground zero, his position has now magically transformed to him having no reason to believe there was molten metal there. Go figure

Show me where you've backed it up, Jessica. You comment that Robertson's statement on the design of the buildings has changed.

Any of this sinking in yet, Jessica?

 

[Moving On]

Being a spectator in this big thread, I would like to point out that you have not once swayed me. And this is coming from a guy who watched Loose Change and did think there was in fact a conspiracy.

Swaying you has not even entered into my mind one time.

Sorry!

 

[Garb]

I think that last bit tells us everything we needed to know about you.

What's that?


Please, I could use a good laugh.

Swaying you has not even entered into my mind one time.

Sorry!

I'm curious, are you planning on getting people to believe the "truth" or are you just here to attack people who don't believe in your reasoning?

 

[Gravy]

I would love to see your debunking of heaven and hell.

Why don't you call those people nuybars like you call CTs?

Jessica, is belief in heaven and hell evidence of their existence? Yes or no?