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White House Survivor

There are only two kinds of people when it comes to Trump:
Those who see that he's a grifter and stay away
And
Those who see he is a grifter and think they can profit from associating with him.
 
Travis said:
My prediction, Kobach gets the job and in about a year we'll get a breaking news bulletin about mass graves being discovered in Arizona and Texas.
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Yes, of course that's your prediction. I am somewhat impressed that it is understated compared to some of what you write.
 
Now the Director of the Secret Service is getting the boot.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-trump-administration/?utm_term=.4e9b1c28cbdd

Secret Service Director Randolph ‘Tex’ Alles to leave Trump administration

A former senior Customs official and retired Marine Corps general, Alles was the 25th director of the agency that is a part of the Department of Homeland Security. The announcement of his departure comes a day after the ouster of DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.

“Mr. Alles will be leaving shortly and President Trump has selected James M. Murray, a career member of the USSS, to take over as director beginning in May,” White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said.
 
phiwum said:
Yes, of course that's your prediction. I am somewhat impressed that it is understated compared to some of what you write.
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Are you impressed that it's understated compared to the misanthrope Trump wants to put in the position? "Hey, let's get Travis, he always thinks the worse and speaks in hyperbole".

Looks like the sky really is falling, guys.
 
Well if the reporting is true that Trump wanted Nielson to do hugely illegal things and thought the child separation policy wasn't cruel enough...what else is there? I'm just pointing out the logical conclusion of all the policies and actions of the administration leads to a dark place.
 
Travis said:
Well if the reporting is true that Trump wanted Nielson to do hugely illegal things and thought the child separation policy wasn't cruel enough...what else is there? I'm just pointing out the logical conclusion of all the policies and actions of the administration leads to a dark place.
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I suspect Trump is entirely indifferent to the suffering of others, even work associates. That means he would not care if the children were treated badly or kindly, as long as it benefited him ultimately. So I don't believe Trump is deliberately cruel.

However the same cannot be said for Stephen Miller, the architect of the einsatz aktionen on the southern border. He has been the one Trump-whispering, and has been ably assisted by Bolton and Nielson. If I were on a future Senate committee researching the disaster that has happened with the immigration from Mexico, I would be withholding their passports.
 
The Trump administration is in a Race for Cruelty with crime-controlled areas in South America, thinking that if they can be nastier than drug lords killing with impunity, migrants will stay home.
Do these people ever stop to think?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The Trump administration is in a Race for Cruelty with crime-controlled areas in South America, thinking that if they can be nastier than drug lords killing with impunity, migrants will stay home.
Do these people ever stop to think?
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I believe Trump isn't really trying to make the migrants stay home. He is just being cruel because that's what his base likes. He is making things worse in those countries, which is encouraging more refugees to come to the USA border. The goal, I think, is to create a big crisis at the border so that he can point to the border as a problem and win the next election on the issue. It should be noted that border patrol is short-staffed because of Trump. In short:

1. Act tough and be mean at our border.
2. Make things worse in South/Central America to encourage more refugees.
3. Blame Democrats for the crisis on the border that he creates.
4. Win 2020 election with xenophobia. (along with election fraud and disenfranchisement)
 
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Trump thinks he is in a negotiation with the leaders of the origin countries of migrants, as well as Mexico.
It's his standard MO to demand that others deal with and pay for issues that are his responsibility.
 
Crossbow said:
A former senior Customs official and retired Marine Corps general, Alles was the 25th director of the agency that is a part of the Department of Homeland Security. The announcement of his departure comes a day after the ouster of DHS Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen.
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Interesting that he's losing another general. Can people really look at this exodus and not wonder why Trump can't keep good help?

Wonder what Alles did that's so bad. Was it that thing at Mar-a-lago?
 
Minoosh said:
I don't understand what you're saying here.
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Miller, Neilson and Bolton need investigation for how they have created a tragedy on the Mexican border by nefariously influencing porridge-brained Trump. There will be a reckoning for them in the future that will make the Mueller enquiry look like a boy scout camp. They need to be held to account. So they should not be allowed to flee the country, perhaps with Trump, to escape this justice.
 
Minoosh said:
Interesting that he's losing another general. Can people really look at this exodus and not wonder why Trump can't keep good help?

Wonder what Alles did that's so bad. Was it that thing at Mar-a-lago?
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I'm thinking it's to do with the Mexican border still not being closed. Trump wants it closed and the people he sacked didn't want it closed.
 
Norman Alexander said:
Miller, Neilson and Bolton need investigation for how they have created a tragedy on the Mexican border by nefariously influencing porridge-brained Trump. There will be a reckoning for them in the future that will make the Mueller enquiry look like a boy scout camp. They need to be held to account. So they should not be allowed to flee the country, perhaps with Trump, to escape this justice.
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If I was elected President in 2020 I'd appoint an AG who would take all of them along with the entire administration of ICE into custody (as well as all law enforcement that cooperated with ICE) and turn them over to The Hague for prosecution for crimes against humanity.
 
Travis said:
If I was elected President in 2020 I'd appoint an AG who would take all of them along with the entire administration of ICE into custody (as well as all law enforcement that cooperated with ICE) and turn them over to The Hague for prosecution for crimes against humanity.
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Congratulations to you for having such and enlightened attitude.

Does this mean that you are still supportive of the Iraq War?
 
Crossbow said:
Congratulations to you for having such and enlightened attitude.

Does this mean that you are still supportive of the Iraq War?
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You know darned good and well I feel that war was a huge mistake. Why try and take this whole thing off topic?
 
The Great Zaganza said:
The Trump administration is in a Race for Cruelty with crime-controlled areas in South America, thinking that if they can be nastier than drug lords killing with impunity, migrants will stay home.
Do these people ever stop to think?
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I hope it does not come to armed resistence to a viscous tyranny, but won't hurt to get in some target practice.
 
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