Which Cult or Sect is Most Dangerous?

[Doctor X]

The people who "own the House"--own the forum--can make the rules.

I may not agree with the rules--I can leave the house. I may even complain about the rules elsewhere.

Things are a problem when the owners apply rules arbitrarily or inconsistently.

Such biggotry as spouted here is offensive and, personally, I would not allow it in my home. However, if the moderators wish to allow it--just as the presumably allow posters to spew nonsense posts of insults--The Readership is free to expose it, and condemn it.

Regarding cults . . . a cult is a religion that is not popular yet. Martial arts cults exist. We seem to have an understanding that the basic purpose of the organization is the exploitation rather than the betterment of members.

Okay, but does that cover Heaven's Gate? There are cults that believe they are serving the betterment of their members--even if it does not seem that way.

Anyways, aside from the attempts to turn this into a plateform for personal prejudice, a good topic.

"Offensive" Tangent Warning:

Right, now since the self-proclaimed scripture experts wish to attack homosexual, perchance a review of what the texts state about homosexuality would be in order.

I refer the Readership to an issue of the Journal of Biblical Literature--I can provide links if some are interested--I am not "in the office."

Anyways, this gets complicated in that one has to follow how the Hebrew is used in the respective Leviticus passages in comparison to other passages. In summary, what is forbidden is taking the "female position" not homosexual relationship.

Indeed, it seems it is always better to give than receive. . . .

Thus, does the OT sanction the practice.

--J.D.

 

[Darat]

...snip....

Why is a hatred of religious people acceptable on here, and other forms of hatred are not?

I certainly don't think it is acceptable - but don't forget the forum seems to allow any abuse regarding beliefs including the "religion of atheism".


(Edited for speeling misteak.)

 

[Guest]

Why is a hatred of religious people acceptable on here, and other forms of hatred are not?

It is because most people on here are NOT religious, therefore, to conform to the status quo, making fun of theism and theists is generally allowed, and is often viewed by them as cute, comical, or funny, when it clearly is not.

 

[Ipecac]

So should we also not make fun of the spoon-benders, doswers, homeopaths and talkers to the dead?

 

[Doctor X]

It is because most people on here are NOT religious, therefore, to conform to the status quo, making fun of theism and theists is generally allowed, and is often viewed by them as cute, comical, or funny, when it clearly is not.

Not clearly at all.

What is "not funny" is a failure to apply critical judgement to the world around us.

--J.D.

 

[Franko]

Dr. De-Bungler:
What is "not funny" is a failure to apply critical judgement to the world around us.

Why don't you explain your irrefutable reasons for believing in "free will" then Dr. Hypocrite?

TLOP (God) controls YOU controls CAR.

When will you religious fanatics face reality?

 

[Yahzi]

Mucusman

have no problem with that, but I do have a problem when you openly say that theres nothing wrong with being gay

In yet another stunning display of Jesuit logic, Mucusman states that he has no problem with you being wrong as long as you don't mention it. Who would have guessed he got his policies from Bill Clinton?

Mucus, you degenerate moron, you are on my /ignore list. I only see what people choose to quote. Which frankly is more than than I care to see. I can't say I'm surprised to find out you are a homophobe; it just goes with the territory.

I can say, with absolute assurance, that being gay is far less offensive to God than being you.


c4ts

I forgot that the JREF offices don't open until March

We have moderators on line already... if you reported the post, Bidlack et. al. will see it. Right?

 

[Yahzi]

Luke

Why is a hatred of religious people acceptable on here, and other forms of hatred are not?

Because religion is what you choose, and homosexual is what you are.

It is inappropriate to assail people for what they cannot change. It is entirely appropriate to accost and upbraid people for a choice they are continuing to make.

 

[Franko]

Because religion is what you choose, and homosexual is what you are.

And here I thought that consciousness was an illusion and everything was just the result of TLOP and the Initial State?

What is your empirical evidence that Religion is a “choice”, and Sexual Orientation is “predetermined”?

It is inappropriate to assail people for what they cannot change. It is entirely appropriate to accost and upbraid people for a choice they are continuing to make.

Please explain EXACTLY how a “rational” person (such as yourself) empirically determines when they get to make a “choice” (religion), from when something is preordained by the Laws of Physics (homosexuality)???

Yatzi, as always, you do not fail to disappoint. You are entirely consistent and predictable in your inanity. A True brainwashed A-Theism moron if I ever saw one.

 

[Ceinwyn]

And here I thought that consciousness was an illusion and everything was just the result of TLOP and the Initial State?

What is your empirical evidence that Religion is a “choice”, and Sexual Orientation is “predetermined”?



Please explain EXACTLY how a “rational” person (such as yourself) empirically determines when they get to make a “choice” (religion), from when something is preordained by the Laws of Physics (homosexuality)???

Yatzi, as always, you do not fail to disappoint. You are entirely consistent and predictable in your inanity. A True brainwashed A-Theism moron if I ever saw one.

I have one answer to this:

Have sex with a man, Franko. Right now.

No? You don't want to? Why not?

Could it be because you don't have any attraction to men? Well try reversing that. Gay people don't have any attraction to the opposite sex, and there is as much chance of forcing them to change as there is of forcing you to s*ck some guy's...ok, I'll leave it at that and hope the message got through.

 

[Franko]

I have one answer to this:

Believe in God buki. Right now.

No? You don't want to? Why not?

Could it be because you don't have any attraction to God? Well try reversing that. A-Theist people don't have any attraction to the Truth, and there is as much chance of forcing them to change as there is of forcing you to acknowledge that you don’t have magic "free will" powers, I'll leave it at that and hope the message got through.

 

[Ceinwyn]

I have one answer to this:

Believe in God buki. Right now.

No? You don't want to? Why not?

Could it be because you don't have any attraction to God? Well try reversing that. A-Theist people don't have any attraction to the Truth, and there is as much chance of forcing them to change as there is of forcing you to acknowledge that you don’t have magic "free will" powers, I'll leave it at that and hope the message got through.

You're the one who's equating "god" with "the Truth" Franko. It's an interesting tactic though, parroting a post and slipping in a completely different topic while you're at it.

Mind you, if god looked like Brad Pitt, I'd be tempted...

 

[Darat]

So should we also not make fun of the spoon-benders, doswers, homeopaths and talkers to the dead?

Making "fun" is not "hatred of religious people" is it? If a friend has a new hair cut that I take the mickey out of that isn't "hatred".

 

[Doctor X]

I predicted that the Coward et Liar et Hypocrithas been reduced to puerile tantrums.

This is in contrast to the Coward et Liar et Hypocrit who has been reduced to puerile tantrums, of course.

Note well:

Why don't you explain your irrefutable reasons for believing in "free will" then Dr. Hypocrite? (sic)

Non sequitur et argumentum ad veritatum obfuscandum. The Coward et Liar et Hypocrit has thus FAILED to Address the Science of Consciousness which proves quite relevant when he renders unsupported blatherings such as:

And here I thought that consciousness was an illusion and everything was just the result of TLOP and the Initial State?

Incidentally, as much as I hate to deprive a loon of a slogan to place on his sandwich board:

TLOP (God)

Is an assumption contrary to evidence.

. . . controls YOU

Is an assumption contrary to evidence.

controls CAR.

Is a rather false analogy altogether.

Such errors make sense when we consider his attempt to slander other posters by attributing to them opinions they do not hold in a rather pathetic Poisoning the Well:

When will you religious fanatics face reality?

I would recognize the ironic hypocrisy in that if it were not for the fact that most religious fanatics have more conviction than this Coward et Liar et Hypocrit.

--J.D.

 

[Girl 6]

Hey neutrino, my bad..LOL I was talking to Yahzi, not you... I didnt mean it, that guy is a moron, he makes so much accusation but cant back it up, I have exchanged posts with him on the other thread. Im sorry if you got involve here..

Are you gay? If so, you made your choice. Even God gives you that freedom. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem when you openly say that theres nothing wrong with being gay.. Because there is..

It is a sickness as much as perversion, rapists, porn addicts. Your goals in life should be to improve your generousity, and care for others, not for your penis (obviously u cant pro-create when gay.)...

This is an OFFENSIVE post. You are forming an opinion and NOT even backing up that opinion. On top of which, you are preaching to us. We can get into a debate as to why I think this, but I want to believe that you have better sense than this.

This may incur the wrath of some of the posters, but I'm going to ask that you voluntarily edit or delete this post. I'm going to give you until Monday morning by 12 noon PST to do this. I am also sending you a PM concerning this.

If you don't, I'll delete it or edit it myself. In so doing, I accept responsibility for my actions.

thanks!
G6

 

[Franko]

Hey neutrino, my bad..LOL I was talking to Yahzi, not you... I didnt mean it, that guy is a moron, he makes so much accusation but cant back it up, I have exchanged posts with him on the other thread. Im sorry if you got involve here..

Are you religious? If so, you made your choice. Even The Laws of Physics gives you that freedom. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem when you openly say that theres nothing wrong with being religious.. Because there is..

It is a sickness as much as perversion, rapists, porn addicts. Your goals in life should be to improve your knowledge, and care for Science, not for your faith (obviously u cant evolve when religious.)...

 

[Girl 6]

By the way, I would like to apologize, in advance, to anyone that has found the above post offensive.

I certainly don't believe that the JREF would be comfortable supporting hate speech. However, that's my subjective opinion as I don't represent the JREF officially.

I did receive MANY complaints from various posters regarding that post. I am sorry that I didn't get to it until now. But, rest assured that I acted the minute I got the complaints.

thanks!
G6

 

[Franko]

Girl 6 as a moderator, would you please give us some guidelines for our personal opinions?

Which ideas are we allowed to condemn, and which ideas are sacred and holy and not to be blasphemed?

I am very confused by your posts, could you please elaborate and explain yourself more clearly?

 

[Girl 6]

Girl 6 as a moderator, would you please give us some guidelines for our personal opinions?

Which ideas are we allowed to condemn, and which ideas are sacred and holy and not to be blashemed?

I am very confused by your posts, could you please elaborate and explain yourself more clearly?

Alright...

I'm sorry. I'm just reacting in a poor way to something that I consider to be offensive. Of course, it's wrong of me to judge. Muscleman is stating an opinion.

I apologize and I retract.

And, thank you for pointing this out to me. I will also send a PM to muscleman with an apology.

G6

 

[Soubrette]

Alright...

I'm sorry. I'm just reacting in a poor way to something that I consider to be offensive. Of course, it's wrong of me to judge. Muscleman is stating an opinion.

I apologize and I retract.

And, thank you for pointing this out to me. I will also send a PM to muscleman with an apology.

G6

You have my respect G6

Sou