Which Cult or Sect is Most Dangerous?

[Guest]

Akots,


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I'd say those instances were the result of individuals acting helpful, in spite of scientology teachings.
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Oh brother. So no matter how much a person in Scientology benefits from it, you'd still say that it was 'in spite of' Scientology.

Whatever you have to tell yourself to keep to your beliefs.


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How much of scientology do you believe in? I'm not trying to sound insulting... and i'm sorry if it is.
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I'm not a Scientologist (reading Yahzi? Of course you are!), but here goes:

I do partially believe that people are spritual beings, and partially believe that god(s) exist, and I believe that peoples' main urge is to survive, we have an analytical part of our mind, I reject the concept of enternal life in hell and heaven, and I do believe in trying to help make better the areas of crime, mental illness, warfare, drug addiction and physical illnesses.

So I share some beliefs with Scientologists, but then again, I share some beliefs with most all religions.

 

[muscleman]

Catholicism. Not as virulent as those others, but far, far larger and more powerful.

Fundamentalist Xianity is more of an immediate threat, though.

I have observed u from the beggining, and I realize u have so much hatred against the church and I dont know why... But I can only have theories..

Were you excommunicated? If so what is the reason? Because your gay and likes to have sex with animals and at the same time takes Holy Communion?

Are you a child molester?

Are you gay?

Are you homosexual?

Anyways I have all kinds of theories.. But Im so sure that you are a former catholic.....

 

[muscleman]

Secular-humanistic, Atheistic, communism has by far the highest body count, and holds the potential for similar destructiveness on a world-wide scale. US-UK-Canada-Australia are the core effective force counterbalancing the New World (communist dictatorship) Order the remainder of the world appears to so badly crave.

The cults & sects mentioned so far will never have similar massive destructive capability, imnsho.

I can just feel the rush coming my way.. You are so right...

The Secular-humanisticn atheistic, communism has by far the highest body count..

This guys here are just brainwashed though (and they dont realize it.)

But, by observation and study on religions. The most lethal religion I have ever known (other than what is mentioned.) is Islam.. Quran is a lethal weapon...

I have read Quran, it reminds me of the bible, except there is no new testament, and there is no Jesus the Christ....

Thank God Islam are not in power (that wont happen, because the rock of God "catholic church" will live, and not even the gates of hell shall prevail against it..)...

 

[neutrino_cannon]

I have observed u from the beggining, and I realize u have so much hatred against the church and I dont know why... But I can only have theories..

Were you excommunicated? If so what is the reason? Because your gay and likes to have sex with animals and at the same time takes Holy Communion?

Are you a child molester?

Are you gay?

Are you homosexual?

Anyways I have all kinds of theories.. But Im so sure that you are a former catholic.....

While I am certainly no moderator (to willing to attack, probly not mature enough), I can only posit my digust at these remarks for three reasons.

To begin, you imply that child molesting/zoophilia is rampant among catholics. While it is becoming more and more apearant that their is rampant sexual abuse (I have very low tolerances for "rampant") among the clergy, it can hardly be assumed that all catholics are molestors, or even that there is a higher percentage of perverts among catholics.

Second, you bash gays, and imply an equation between homosexuality and child molesting. This is emphaticaly not the case, most sexual assults are performed by heterosexuals owing to the fact that there are more of them. I realize that there is a stigma against homosexuals in the catholic church, but the fact that you mention it twice leads me to read more into the matter.

Third, you imply that homosexuals like to have sex with animals. While from a heterosexual standpoint, the sexual physical acts performed between homosexuals may seem adventurous or perhaps even wierd, this in no way means that they enjoy having sex with animals more than heterosexuals. They're attracted to members of the same sex, not other species.

In conclusion, I find your above comment reprehensable, and while this is not commentary on your person (I post stupid and offensive things from time to time), continual comments of this sort will place you on my ignore list.

 

[corplinx]

Were you excommunicated? If so what is the reason? Because your gay and likes to have sex with animals and at the same time takes Holy Communion?

If your Jesus were alive today, I do believe he would beat you with a whip like he did the vendors in the temple.

Try not to post in a thread that I start ever again.

On second thought, post all you want junior. I've got you on ignore.

 

[muscleman]

Hey neutrino, my bad..LOL I was talking to Yahzi, not you... I didnt mean it, that guy is a moron, he makes so much accusation but cant back it up, I have exchanged posts with him on the other thread. Im sorry if you got involve here..

Are you gay? If so, you made your choice. Even God gives you that freedom. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem when you openly say that theres nothing wrong with being gay.. Because there is..

It is a sickness as much as perversion, rapists, porn addicts. Your goals in life should be to improve your generousity, and care for others, not for your penis (obviously u cant pro-create when gay.)...

 

[Megalodon]

Muscleman

Thank you very much. You (once again) showed why religions are dangerous.

BTW, you are a moron...

 

[neutrino_cannon]

Hey neutrino, my bad..LOL I was talking to Yahzi, not you... I didnt mean it, that guy is a moron, he makes so much accusation but cant back it up, I have exchanged posts with him on the other thread. Im sorry if you got involve here..

Are you gay? If so, you made your choice. Even God gives you that freedom. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem when you openly say that theres nothing wrong with being gay.. Because there is..

It is a sickness as much as perversion, rapists, porn addicts. Your goals in life should be to improve your generousity, and care for others, not for your penis (obviously u cant pro-create when gay.)...

Indeed, I am no devote Yahzi fan, and I realize the direction your comments were pointed in. I take offense to your comments, not to you personaly.

As I understand it, being gay is not per say a dedicated rational choice. I can see no reason anyone would choose to become a homosexual, though I'm sure homosexuals could come up with a few good reasons.

How exactly does being gay prevent you from being a generous, empathetic, trustworthy and worthwhile human being. Gays are not sex addicts any more neccisarily than any other human beings, and while they lack the sex drive to procreate (unless they wanted children), they are not sterile.

 

[HarryKeogh]

wahhabism

without a doubt. and the scary part is that it is the only form of islam taught in schools in Saudi Arabia.

 

[shemp]

Wahhabism? I much prefer Wasabiism .

 

[Ipecac]

I have observed u from the beggining, and I realize u have so much hatred against the church and I dont know why... But I can only have theories..

Were you excommunicated? If so what is the reason? Because your gay and likes to have sex with animals and at the same time takes Holy Communion?

Are you a child molester?

Are you gay?

Are you homosexual?

Anyways I have all kinds of theories.. But Im so sure that you are a former catholic.....

MM, not that you had any respect here before, but that comment pretty well destroyed whatever small amount you may have had. It also shows the extent of your compassion, your intellect and the evil of your particular brand of religion.

 

[c4ts]

Hey neutrino, my bad..LOL I was talking to Yahzi, not you... I didnt mean it, that guy is a moron, he makes so much accusation but cant back it up, I have exchanged posts with him on the other thread. Im sorry if you got involve here..

Are you gay? If so, you made your choice. Even God gives you that freedom. I have no problem with that, but I do have a problem when you openly say that theres nothing wrong with being gay.. Because there is..

It is a sickness as much as perversion, rapists, porn addicts. Your goals in life should be to improve your generousity, and care for others, not for your penis (obviously u cant pro-create when gay.)...

Get off the board and take your hate speeches with you. I am reporting this post to a moderator, hopefully before someone gay sees this and is offended by your biggotry.

Before Muscleman just repeated a bunch of things that didn't make sense. Now he has transgressed an actual boundary from "crazy old windbag" to "dangerous pervert." He says gayness is a disease, while he asks people on this forum if they are gay. He might as well ask them if they are black, or hispanic, or anything else along those lines. Politics aside, it makes me sick. This man's religion or ideology is not to blame, he is, and he has shown he may be looking for someone on this board to physically and/or sexually abuse. I encourage everybody to report him now, before he gets completely out of control.

I forgot that the JREF offices don't open until March... in the meantime, I'm just going to start a flame thread.

 

[hammegk]

Hmmm.

Hypothetically, if I were to say,
"Homosexuality disgusts me, pedophiles disgust me, and atheists disgust me", is that "hate speech" or free speech?

What would you say if you wanted to "report" me?

 

[specious_reasons]

wahhabism

without a doubt. and the scary part is that it is the only form of islam taught in schools in Saudi Arabia.

I was considering posting something along those lines. It's the most conservative and fundamentalist branch of Islam.

The Pakistani Madrasas (sp?), you know the schools that bred the Taliban, were founded (funded) by Saudi Arabian wahhabists. Despicable practices.

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Hmmm.

Hypothetically, if I were to say,
"Homosexuality disgusts me, pedophiles disgust me, and atheists disgust me", is that "hate speech" or free speech?

What would say if you wanted to "report" me?

I would say it is ' both '..

It would give us some insight into your character, and enable us to make informed decisions regarding further discourse with you.

If someone wanted to ' report you ', they would be exercising their freedom of speech.

 

[c0rbin]

Hating or fear of people for being homosexual makes as much sense as hating or fear of people who prefer chocolate ice cream to vanilla.

If anyone on this board can name one intelligent reason why being homosexual is bad I will reconsider the argument, but until then, hating/fearing homosexuals is dumb.

To any Scientology Apologists -- Isn't it a core belief of Scientology that your mind is sometimes plagued by alien spirits requiring thousands of dollars to remove?

 

[Upchurch]

Upchurch,


What about all of the Scientologists that it did and does help?

Do you remember the misses and forget the hits?

er.... well, that's possible.

To tell the truth, I'm not aware of any testimonials from non-members who had good experiences with Scientologists. I know testimonials aren't real evidence, but I'd consider them an indicator.

For instance, although not Jewish myself, I had a girlfriend once who was and when we went to her temple, I was treated with welcome and the utmost respect, despite the fact that they had no interest in "converting" me.

But, as you say, maybe I'm just not aware of all the good that Scientology does. Anyone know of any?

 

[hammegk]

It would give us some insight into your character, and enable us to make informed decisions regarding further discourse with you.

dis·gust from dictionary.com
1. To excite nausea or loathing in; sicken.
2. To offend the taste or moral sense of; repel

I see. Would you hate/fear me, or just be "disgusted"?

If someone wanted to ' report you ', they would be exercising their freedom of speech.

So true, as I would have been doing, and then what?

Mommy, Mommy, that person is picking on me/him/her? Is AAAAAUP your sock-puppet, or you his?

 

[Upchurch]

Are you a child molester?

Are you gay?

Are you homosexual?

Out of curiosity, muscleman, do you know what the difference between being gay and being a homosexual is?

[bad joke]

Since when does being a child molester get you excommunicated?

ba-da-dump

[/bad joke]

 

[Upchurch]

Hmmm.

Hypothetically, if I were to say,
"Homosexuality disgusts me, pedophiles disgust me, and atheists disgust me", is that "hate speech" or free speech?

I'm with Diogenes. Hate speech and free speech aren't mutually exclusive.

If a group of Illinois Nazis wanted to peacefully go on a march proclaiming that "The Jews are using the Blacks against you [white people]", that's both free speech and hate speech.

(Illinois Nazis. Man, I hate Illinois Nazis.)

What would you say if you wanted to "report" me?

One could want to "report" you all they want, but who would they "report" you to?