When Did the Apollo Hoax Nonesnese start?

I an in the UK and I had never heard of APollo being a hoax until I saw it on the Web.
 
FatFreddy88 said:
It's not nonsense. The evidence that the missions were faked is crushing. Here's a link to some of it.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487

The government is spending a lot of money on professional sophists who try to obfuscate the evidence.
http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=125628

Look at post #8 of the above thread.
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Linking back to your own posts on other sites isn't evidence of anything other than your own delusion.

You are like a Dog eating it's own Vomit, you regurgitate the same mess and eat it right back up ready to spew out again in an even more degraded state.
 
The government is spending a lot of money on professional sophists who try to obfuscate the evidence.

Look at post #8 of the above thread.
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I'm wondering why you haven't addressed my posts refuting the lies you repeatedly tell about me.
 
FatFreddy88 said:
It's not nonsense. The evidence that the missions were faked is crushing. Here's a link to some of it.
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Hi, David. I loved the way you approvingly quoted the guy who claimed that there were no pictures of planets or stars taken from space. That was almost as funny as you claiming the South Atlantic Anomaly doesn't even exist.

The government is spending a lot of money on professional sophists who try to obfuscate the evidence....

Yes, you make this same idiotic claim a lot. You just don't get it, do you? No one in the real world cares about the hoax believers. You simply are irrelevant. No one gets paid to hide information from you, though some of us have, for free on our own time, tried to educate you. But you are simply ineducable, curled tightly around yourself in a tight ball of fantasy and paranoia.

And you said I was lying over on Apollohoax, and here you were saying we didn't believe our own words. I explicitly refuted that - I certainly do believe what I say here - and I expect you to provide evidence for your claim, or withdraw it and apologize.
 
000063 said:
Jay specifically says in the linked thread that his answer or lack thereof either way will not change Rocky's opinion, so it's pointless. Rocky indirectly accuses Jay of being a liar (in "some people have claimed" fashion), then admits he has no evidence of such.
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For those who don't want to relive the weeks-long odyssey of FatFreddy88's (aka Rocky, DavidC) stint at Apollohoax.net, the "litmus tests" referred to are the demand from Rocky that he would only debate Apollo hoax theories with people who could prove they were not government shills -- by which he meant people who answered favorably to questions such as, "Was 9/11 an inside job?"

This is typical of the kinds of games he plays.

He was banned there in 2007. As of 2010 he still maintains his obsessive personal fixation toward me and spams his misleading and defamatory claims any time Apollo is mentioned.
 
LongFuzzy said:
If for no other reason, then just to see Jill St. John. :eye-poppi
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For some inexplicable reason the image of her with the cassette tape in her bikini bottom is indelibly burned into my brain.

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One of my good friends had a lifelong ambition to be a Bond Girl. She now lives in England, having completed a Master's degree in English Literature and preparing to apply to Cambridge for a PhD in the same field -- just so you know how she spends her time. When I asked her why she wanted to be a Bond Girl, she answered, "They get to wear fabulous costumes and fly helicopters." You go, Heidi! :cool:
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You have to admit though, that the clangers are apt in that they kind of display the naivity and age group that is seemingly apparent in the so called 'hoax believers'.

All hail the soup dragon (and clavius).
 
JayUtah said:
For those who don't want to relive the weeks-long odyssey of FatFreddy88's (aka Rocky, DavidC) stint at Apollohoax.net, the "litmus tests" referred to are the demand from Rocky that he would only debate Apollo hoax theories with people who could prove they were not government shills -- by which he meant people who answered favorably to questions such as, "Was 9/11 an inside job?"

This is typical of the kinds of games he plays.

He was banned there in 2007. As of 2010 he still maintains his obsessive personal fixation toward me and spams his misleading and defamatory claims any time Apollo is mentioned.
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Rocky/DavidC/FatFreddy88 (not sock puppets, he just uses various names in various places) is also completely unable to process anything going against his fixed personal obsession that Apollo was hoaxed. This requires him to invent ever more magical means of "faking" things and insist that an ever-expanding pool of persons and organizations are "in on it".

For instance, when it was pointed out that lunar soil kicked up by the LRVs follows perfect parabolic arcs and does not billow as it would on Earth, he invented magic sand that produces no dust whatsoever and is impervious to drag. When it was pointed out that his handwaving about "radiation" - he knows nothing at all about any of the science - was refuted by the experience of ISS astronauts who routinely transit the South Atlantic Anomaly, his response was to deny that the SAA even existed. When pointed out that it is dealt with routinely by spacecraft manufacturers and operators worldwide, and studied by scientists and students in many countries - I gave him a list of over 20 - guess what? Yes, the spacecraft manufacturers (like my company) are in on it. The satellite operators and insurers are in on it. All the students and scientists are in on it.

When pressed on such absurdities, he simply says "we don't know", despite being regularly schooled that the people in question do know. He simply cannot deal with the fact that competent people don't agree with his worldview. He can't bring himself to face the direct personal testimony of people like Jay (and myself), who work in this field; hence we must be lying. He can't face the evidence; it must all be faked, even though he can think of no credible way to fake it. He can't even believe that people who disagree with him might really be sincere - hence he said everyone who who was debunking him didn't believe what they were saying. (Rocky, I'm still waiting for you to either back up this claim, or retract it and apologize.)

He's also, ironically for someone so free with accusations of disinformation and mind control and lying, incapable of doing any original thinking for himself. He incontinently cites any hoax site or video he comes across, and endlessly recycles links to his own posts full of links to other sites. But at least, unlike the two resident space-trolls currently active here, he really seems to buy into his belief that Apollo was a hoax - no matter how many knots he has to tie himself into in order to avoid confronting reality.
 
Folks, please remember that the topic of this thread is when the Apollo hoax nonsense started, not the hoax nonsense itself. There is presently a moderated thread for the latter. Thank you in advance.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LashL
 
Well the flat earthers objected as far back as 1969

There is a new scientist article that mentions it as far back as 4 jan 1973

Saturday review: Volume 53, Issues 36-44 takes the thing as far back as 1970.
 
LashL said:
Folks, please remember that the topic of this thread is when the Apollo hoax nonsense started, not the hoax nonsense itself. There is presently a moderated thread for the latter. Thank you in advance.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: LashL
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Agreed and noted. However, for the sake of clarity, is the moderated thread for all advocacy of Apollo hoax claims, or just for those advanced by Patrick1000? I ask because he's the only one currently advocating hoax claims there, and there has just been another hoax advocacy thread opened and I want to know whether I should contribute there.
 
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