What's so fantastic about Apple?

[TheL8Elvis]

But that's what the European consumer law says (See the ECC site, for example). Apple can say whatever they like on their site, any disputes are handled by euro consumer law which will stand by ECC directives.

Which says exactly what I quoted:
If the defect becomes apparent between 6 and 24 months after purchase, it is your responsibility to show that the defect or fault already existed at the time you purchased the item.

Apples link and the link you provided say the same thing ... neither of which is what you said

 

[Fishstick]

Are you referring to the two-month timeframe that's confusing you? That has nothing to do with the warranty-coverage timeframe, its a timeframe between you 'discovering' the defect and 'reporting' it (by attempting to return it, for example).

This is so you can't show up 1.5 years later and demand a refund for then-retail-value for something you know was an issue the day after you purchased it.

E: I just oticed that two-month thing isn't on the ECC site, found it on the actual law:

(17) Whereas it is appropriate to limit in time the period during which the seller is liable for any lack of conformity which exists at the time of delivery of the goods; whereas Member States may also provide for a limitation on the period during which consumers can exercise their rights, provided such a period does not expire within two years from the time of delivery; whereas where, under national legislation, the time when a limitation period starts is not the time of delivery of the goods, the total duration of the limitation period provided for by national law may not be shorter than two years from the time of delivery;
(18) Whereas Member States may provide for suspension or interruption of the period during which any lack of conformity must become apparent and of the limitation period, where applicable and in accordance with their national law, in the event of repair, replacement or negotiations between seller and consumer with a view to an amicable settlement;
(19) Whereas Member States should be allowed to set a period within which the consumer must inform the seller of any lack of conformity; whereas Member States may ensure a higher level of protection for the consumer by not introducing such an obligation; whereas in any case consumers throughout the Community should have at least two months in which to inform the seller that a lack of conformity exists;s

17 refers to the warranty timeframe, 19 refers to the two-month defect-reporting time.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Are you referring to the two-month timeframe that's confusing you? That has nothing to do with the warranty-coverage timeframe, its a timeframe between you 'discovering' the defect and 'reporting' it (by attempting to return it, for example).

OK - yes, I guess I was not understanding the 2 month time frame correctly. Sorry for the confusion.

As to the differences between xbox heat issues and other potential issues- I thought MS acknowledged it was an engineering problem. If that assumption is true, that makes demonstrating that the problem existed from the time you took delivery easy. If the manufacturer does not admit a problem, that's a way more difficult a burden of proof on the consumer. So difficult as to be almost useless, in my opinion. But, I don't live in the EU ,so it doesn't affect me either way.

 

[Brian-M]

Out of curiosity, how did the Apple Macintosh get it's name?

The reason I'm asking is because I just saw an episode of Get Smart from 1965 where a fake chief tricks Max into letting him in without the proper sign/countersign by telling him that there's a new one.

"You say Apples, and I say Macintosh."
"All right then. Apples." "Macintosh."

I'm just wondering if this extremely unlikely word combination is merely a remarkably prescient coincidence, or if the name for the Macintosh computer may have been inspired by an old Get Smart episode.

 

[Jim_MDP]

Out of curiosity, how did the Apple Macintosh get it's name?

The reason I'm asking is because I just saw an episode of Get Smart from 1965 where a fake chief tricks Max into letting him in without the proper sign/countersign by telling him that there's a new one.

"You say Apples, and I say Macintosh."
"All right then. Apples." "Macintosh."

I'm just wondering if this extremely unlikely word combination is merely a remarkably prescient coincidence, or if the name for the Macintosh computer may have been inspired by an old Get Smart episode.

Neither probably. The apple variety is spelled McIntosh.

Apple's alt spelling allows Mac as shorthand, though I see it is also used for the red apple.

 

[joobie]

jef raskin named the macintosh after his favorite variety of apple.

I named it for my favorite kind of eatin' apple, the succulent McIntosh (I changed the spelling of the name to avoid potential conflict with McIntosh, the audio equipment manufacturer).

 

[Brian-M]

I didn't realize that there was a variety of apple called McIntosh. I always assumed that the Macintosh computer was named after the Macintosh for some obscure reason.

But knowing that there's a type of apple called McIntosh, the use of the two words together isn't much of a coincidence at all.

 

[Jim_MDP]

jef raskin named the macintosh after his favorite variety of apple.

Originally Posted by raskin
I named it for my favorite kind of eatin' apple, the succulent McIntosh (I changed the spelling of the name to avoid potential conflict with McIntosh, the audio equipment manufacturer).

Thanks... I forgot about the high-end audio company. For all the $$$ I've given Apple, I've never had pricey (there's an understatement) stereos.

 

[Sideroxylon]

I am very pleased with Apple right now. I bought a first generation nano many years ago and after getting fair use of it put it away in a drawer when the battery life became too short.

Late last year they emailed me a bulletin about a replacement program for some models due to risks associated with potentially overheating of batteries. After a bit of procrastination on my part I hunted down the local repair center and handed over the old nano only to get a nice new 6th generation model with twice the storage and battery life of the old beast for no charge after a three-month wait.

Yes, I think Apple are fantastic.

 

[kajata]

I am very pleased with Apple right now. I bought a first generation nano many years ago and after getting fair use of it put it away in a drawer when the battery life became too short.

Late last year they emailed me a bulletin about a replacement program for some models due to risks associated with potentially overheating of batteries. After a bit of procrastination on my part I hunted down the local repair center and handed over the old nano only to get a nice new 6th generation model with twice the storage and battery life of the old beast for no charge after a three-month wait.

Yes, I think Apple are fantastic.

My wife has one too but when I put in the serial # on the website it was ineligible because it was from a lot that didn't have the bad batteries. Bummer.

 

[Sideroxylon]

My wife has one too but when I put in the serial # on the website it was ineligible because it was from a lot that didn't have the bad batteries. Bummer.

Sorry you missed out on the lottery. How is the battery standing up anyway? Is she still using it? Mine was a nice little player when it worked.

 

[kajata]

Sorry you missed out on the lottery. How is the battery standing up anyway? Is she still using it? Mine was a nice little player when it worked.

No idea. It was sitting in a drawer. She hasn't used it in a couple of years and I didn't bother charging it.

I remember buying it for her on our first anniversary of going out. She was all like "ooohhhh!" and now it's in the junk drawer with twist ties that will never be used and cat food coupons.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2012/04/24Apple-Reports-Second-Quarter-Results.html

The Company sold 35.1 million iPhones in the quarter, representing 88 percent unit growth over the year-ago quarter. Apple sold 11.8 million iPads during the quarter, a 151 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter. The Company sold 4 million Macs during the quarter, a 7 percent unit increase over the year-ago quarter. Apple sold 7.7 million iPods, a 15 percent unit decline from the year-ago quarter.

Fantastic for all who own apple stock.

 

[kajata]

Fantastic for all who own apple stock.

I hope so because this last week sucked for those of us who own Apple stock.

 

[TheL8Elvis]

I hope so because this last week sucked for those of us who own Apple stock.

Doesn't it dip *every time* before an 'special event' and the earnings call ? And then the earnings are *always* better than apples own guidance, and then we make fun of the stupid analysts.

It's always like that

 

[Fast Eddie B]

I hope so because this last week sucked for those of us who own Apple stock.

Yes, it did.

You never know when a slide like that is for real and has "legs". Think Netflix not so long age.

But that nearly $50 bounce yesterday was pretty fantastic, eh?

Not back to the all-time highs, but a nice response to record profits and continued strong sales.

 

[OCaptain]

Doesn't it dip *every time* before an 'special event' and the earnings call ? And then the earnings are *always* better than apples own guidance, and then we make fun of the stupid analysts.

It's always like that

People tend to buy on the rumor and sell on the news.

 

[kajata]

This game for the iPad looks fantastic. Except for the cleaning your weapon part.

http://www.cultofmac.com/167920/infinity-blade-dungeons-looks-incredible-in-this-new-gameplay-video/