What's next? A Trump presidency prediction thread.

[Belz...]

How can the VP do this without the President's say?

 

[Ziggurat]

How can the VP do this without the President elect's say?

He can't. Which means he has the President elect's say.

 

[Belz...]

Ok. So Trump chose these guys and then dismissed them because of public opinion?

 

[Ziggurat]

Ok. So Trump chose these guys and then dismissed them because of public opinion?

Possibly. Or possibly because of internal battles within his organization. Unless he talks, we'll never know for sure.

 

[Upchurch]

Unless I missed it, nobody got "double impeachment and a failed insurrection".

I'm beginning to think predictions of the future might be just a lot of guessing.

 

[Mader Levap]

Trump's main focus will be on creating synergy between his business interests and the presidency. He will hopelessly entangle the two in any way that makes him money. By the time he leaves office (through whatever means) there will be no line at all.

Corporations will win big, the little guy and the environment will lose. No big surprise there.

Pence will be running the show in many ways, but not as many as he would like. Trump's inability and unwillingness to actually run the country will lead to him letting multiple people take over things in a way that causes a lot of internal strife. It won't always be clear who outranks who, because for the most part it will be "who talked to Trump most recently?".

Even for areas where someone competent is in charge, they will occasionally be blindsided by Trump. At least a few times, plans that have been in the works for nine months or more will be abruptly torpedoed as Trump declares something out of nowhere that contradicts the party message or makes a promise that (insert planned GOP thing) will never happen.

Trump will continue to have randomly left-leaning opinions mixed in with his right wing platform. Sometimes this will muddy the waters, sometimes not. It will keep certain other politicians annoyed at him and in theory should anger some of his supporters as he drops things he doesn't really care about and was just saying to get votes.

As the establishment Republicans push back against Trump and even more often some of his buddies, Trump will not be able to resist his nature and will strike out against them. This, along with some of the scandals that will continue to come up, will mean that at some point there is serious talk of impeachment even among the Republicans. I don't think he will actually be thrown out of office though.

Despite all this, for the most part Republicans will get what they want and for the most part Trump supporters will rationalize whatever he says and does. He'll serve his four years, and if he runs again he'll still get about half the vote though I strongly believe he wouldn't win a second time.

I can't make any really specific predictions though, because he's a wildcard. So I don't know how to go down the list of policies and give a yes/no vote. Essentially I think almost none of them will be an unqualified yes, other than appointing a conservative judge to the supreme court.

Eh, this guy got closest to mark.

 

[bam]

I wish! Then Pence would start his presidency with the actual title of President instead of VP. Make no mistake, Pence will really be the one in charge on Jan 20th.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Trump's main focus will be on creating synergy between his business interests and the presidency. He will hopelessly entangle the two in any way that makes him money. By the time he leaves office (through whatever means) there will be no line at all.

Corporations will win big, the little guy and the environment will lose. No big surprise there.

Pence will be running the show in many ways, but not as many as he would like. Trump's inability and unwillingness to actually run the country will lead to him letting multiple people take over things in a way that causes a lot of internal strife. It won't always be clear who outranks who, because for the most part it will be "who talked to Trump most recently?".

Even for areas where someone competent is in charge, they will occasionally be blindsided by Trump. At least a few times, plans that have been in the works for nine months or more will be abruptly torpedoed as Trump declares something out of nowhere that contradicts the party message or makes a promise that (insert planned GOP thing) will never happen.

Trump will continue to have randomly left-leaning opinions mixed in with his right wing platform. Sometimes this will muddy the waters, sometimes not. It will keep certain other politicians annoyed at him and in theory should anger some of his supporters as he drops things he doesn't really care about and was just saying to get votes.

As the establishment Republicans push back against Trump and even more often some of his buddies, Trump will not be able to resist his nature and will strike out against them. This, along with some of the scandals that will continue to come up, will mean that at some point there is serious talk of impeachment even among the Republicans. I don't think he will actually be thrown out of office though.

Despite all this, for the most part Republicans will get what they want and for the most part Trump supporters will rationalize whatever he says and does. He'll serve his four years, and if he runs again he'll still get about half the vote though I strongly believe he wouldn't win a second time.

I can't make any really specific predictions though, because he's a wildcard. So I don't know how to go down the list of policies and give a yes/no vote. Essentially I think almost none of them will be an unqualified yes, other than appointing a conservative judge to the supreme court.

I can't believe you were that on the mark in 2016. Wow! I think this deserves a language nom, (coming right up).

EDT: I asked for an exception to the rules that a post has to be current.



These are the only two posts of mine in the thread:

It looks like he's appointing an absolutely incompetent cabinet. What a nightmare.

I suspect the Pubbies might be planning that so they can have POTUS Pence.

Not much worth mentioning.

 

[dudalb]

I think we can answer the questin in the threat title easily. The worst presidency in US History.

 

[Minoosh]

What I most hope for is that people will quickly lose interest in Trump, although he'll continue to fascinate a) people in his thrall and b) people who can make money from people in his thrall. I just hope that turns out to be a fairy small number of people. So far, you gotta admit, he's been pretty entertaining, both to supporters and detractors.

Personally I may feel a bit bereft post-Jan. 20. In fact I already am. Trump has grown steadily more irrelevant in recent days/weeks, IMO. Having seen all his schemes fail so far I'm skeptical that a) Biden will be arrested after swearing-in; c) Harris will disappear and 3) that Trump will be installed as president for 2 years with his VP Michael Flynn. But other people on ISF are sure that will happen and I suppose time will tell.

 

[Blue Mountain]

I think we can answer the questin in the threat title easily. The worst presidency in US History.

Right now I'm not ready to say Trump was the worst—as far as I'm concerned Buchanan still holds that title. His actions let to the US Civil War, which killed about 655,000 people by direct action and disease. Keep in mind that the population of the US at the time was 35.7 million, for a loss of 1.8% of the population.

The death toll from COVID-19 is currently 409,000, but that's in a population nearly ten times that of 1865. 1.8% of today's population is 5,976,000. So for one metric (deaths due to poor administration) goes, Buchanan is an order of magnitude worse.

 

[Steve]

Right now I'm not ready to say Trump was the worst—as far as I'm concerned Buchanan still holds that title. His actions let to the US Civil War, which killed about 655,000 people by direct action and disease. Keep in mind that the population of the US at the time was 35.7 million, for a loss of 1.8% of the population.

The death toll from COVID-19 is currently 409,000, but that's in a population nearly ten times that of 1865. 1.8% of today's population is 5,976,000. So for one metric (deaths due to poor administration) goes, Buchanan is an order of magnitude worse.

Measuring US presidents by the number of deaths during their term is an interesting concept.