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Merged What's happening in the Middle East?

Iraq isn't a success yet. That place could still fall into total civil-war, allowing Iran to take over the Shia areas, counquer its oil, and be a real headache for the world.

so save your marching band for a bit.

Strawman. It's an improvement over Fascism. That's my position.

It's not the time for making predictions. If someone said in January that there would be a revolution in Libya, France would lead a military coalition and Obama would bomb an Arab country without congressional approval, nobody would believe you.
 
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haaa!!!!

you clearly have no idea what a strawman argument is. nothing in my post is obviously false or ridiculous.

Strawman arguments tend not to include the word "could".

"Iraq isn't a success yet. Hold off the marching band." I never called it a success deserving of a marching band. The current government is better than the fascist one that proceeded it. The only success in that region is Israel.
 
Iraq isn't a success yet. That place could still fall into total civil-war, allowing Iran to take over the Shia areas, counquer its oil, and be a real headache for the world.

so save your marching band for a bit.

Red Herring. I said the world has one less totalitarian and it does. Hopefully the number gets reduced by one more very soon.

And there are protests in Syria! Yessssss! That filthy Baathist state which killed our troops in Iraq and supported Islamofascist terror against Israel is about to get a dose of the Arab Storm. Ha!
 
Red Herring. I said the world has one less totalitarian and it does. Hopefully the number gets reduced by one more very soon.

And there are protests in Syria! Yessssss! That filthy Baathist state which killed our troops in Iraq and supported Islamofascist terror against Israel is about to get a dose of the Arab Storm. Ha!

it won't be long before the Arab Spring hits the West Bank......and Israel.
 
Yesterday, NPR's The World was reporting from Yemen, where it appears the embattled president and his regime is due to be forced out of Dodge rather quickly. Not only have most of his governmental types abandoned him, but the military as well.
The reporter from Yemen was highly agitated, predicting that the president will have days at most to leave office.
The streets (as shown on TV this morning) were full of military vehicles...All belonging to defected army units.
 
6 billion dollars a year from american tax payers doesn't hurt.:rolleyes:

There is a lot wrong with Israel.

But that money is only a fraction of their GDP.
It's a democracy, it has press freedom, it produces a lot of research and hi-tech products and is generally an interesting, vibrant place.

Disclaimer: they have nutjobs, a badly functioning democratic system depending on small fanatical parties, they are rude, they are macho, they wear jewellery in the pool, they have corruption problems and I really don't like their settlement policies.
 
And who is going to be the next Lybia? According to Moeletsi Mbeki, the brother of former president of SA Thabo Mbeki, it is going to be South-Africa.

He should know.

http://www.allvoices.com/contribute...nly-a-matter-of-time-before-the-bomb-explodes

And if South-Africa falls, then their is only one former European colony left to go down the drain.

I leave to my Anglo friends here as an exercise to figure out which former colony that might be.
 
it won't be long before the Arab Spring hits the West Bank......and Israel.

There are unity protests in Gaza and the West Bank. Hamas have beaten back the protesters and threatened journalists not to report it.
 
If MENA 2011 is Europe 1848, then who is Britain (i.e. the one who only suffered relatively minor internal disputes)?
 
Well, that was one of the quickest wars and periods of revolution in the world. The Middle East press coverage, I mean. The events on the ground are still happening.

The 'rebel' army in Libya is falling apart, because, as Gaddaffiii, or his sons, guessed, the people aren't really capable of fighting a real war and they don't have any real leadership. There are rumours that one leader who 'defected' from Ghaddafi was really a 'double agent', setting them up to fail. For him to fall, there needs to be a popular uprising around the country at once, including Tripoli. The West, however, is slowly destroying his entire army from the air, which is not too hard to do in a desert when the enemy is relatively weak. They expect to have it wiped out in a matter of a few months. Gadafi's own army is apparently divided and weak, and hate him anyway, and don't want to fight either. One of the drivers of a mobile heavy weapon that was spared and captured was found handcuffed to the steering wheel.
 

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