What would a designed universe look like?

A Christian Sceptic said:
Again - that means you know what a designed universe should look like. And that's my question.
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It is a dishonest question, because you already *know* as a Christian. You believe that god designed this universe. Which is why I keep asking you over and over and over:

What evidence do you have of design in the universe, and why does this evidence equate to your god as designer and not a VR simulation?

Blind faith is my guess.
 
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A Christian Sceptic said:
I was asking for someone who is making the claim that this is not what a designed universe would look like for what a designed should look like. I'm not the one who is claiming this is one or the other for this OP. But someone making that claim must have an idea of what they mean the same way someone making the opposite claim should have an idea of what they mean.



Again - that means you know what a designed universe should look like. And that's my question.
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And as has been pointed out, it is not a well-formed question. And neither is the other poster you referenced. Both need to list their design requirements, before speaking of the efficacy of the designed result. The other poster could better ask to be shown the evidence of design, rather than stating the design is wrong. Then that poster doesn't need to supply requirements, but rather, would ask the person arguing for intelligent design to supply those too.

So basically, you are asking a bad follow-up question to a bad original statement.
 
Other questions come to mind...

What would a non-human design look like?



What would a universe be designed for?

aaand

Most importantly I think... What IS a universe? :-X
 
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AkuManiMani said:
Other questions come to mind...

What would a non-human design look like?
What would a universe be designed for?
aaand
Most importantly I think... What IS a universe? :-X
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The April/May 2008 issue of "Asimov's has a speculative story, "An Alien Heresy" on how a 15th Century French inquisitor handles an encounter with an extra-terrestial... The e.t. doesn't get welcomed and taken to anyone's leader .
The mere concept of life off earth was beyond comprehension.
Kinda yucky story (look up "strappado"), but probably true to life as to the methods and processes and mindsets of the Inquistion.
 
A Christian Sceptic said:
Since apparently the question is so vague - here's another try:

In a different thread someone said that the universe does not show signs of being a designed universe. SO - if you have that same opinion - what would a designed universe look like? And since you have that opinion you apparently know what "designed" in this context means to you. So answer accordingly.

****ALERT ****
If the above question is not applicable to you - then feel free to move on to the next appropriatly suitable thread.
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It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain that the person in that other thread, the person who made the comment to which you refer, is the proper person to ask, since only they know exactly what they meant.

Your self righteous arrogance, willful ignorance, dishonesty, and complete lack of courage to participate in a discussion that you started fits you like a glove, A Christian Sceptic.
 
Hokulele said:
Well, I certainly won't break confidentiality and I can respect your reasoning, but it seems a bit unfair to demand answers from those of us posting here without reciprocating.
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Sorry if I seem to be demanding answers. I'm asking for answers. You're all free to answer, not answer, or post funny images. Whatever you want.
 
GeeMack said:
It should be obvious to anyone with half a brain that the person in that other thread, the person who made the comment to which you refer, is the proper person to ask, since only they know exactly what they meant.
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I did and then I thought - it would be cool to see what many of the other people who held similar opinions think.

Your self righteous arrogance, willful ignorance, dishonesty, and complete lack of courage to participate in a discussion that you started fits you like a glove, A Christian Sceptic.
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Dude, what's your friggin' problem?

Did I strike some sort of raw nerve or something?
You'd think this question was really that tough. Either you have an opinion or you don't. Feel free to share if you want.

I'm not here to tell you you're wrong about your thoughts on this. I'm definitely not going to tell you what I think - because I think that since you think I'm arrogant, willfully ignorant, dishonest and lack any courage you don't actually really care what I think.
 
A Christian Sceptic said:
Sorry if I seem to be demanding answers. I'm asking for answers. You're all free to answer, not answer, or post funny images. Whatever you want.
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Yeah, well, the following post did make it seem like you were demanding what you considered to be serious answers.

A Christian Sceptic said:
So - anyone?
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Posting to a skeptics' board is a bit like surfing quantum fluctuations. Ya posts yer thread, ya takes yer chances.

As just a piece of friendly advice, try to take a deep breath and count to ten before posting out of frustration. "Sow wickedness, reap the same" and all that. ;)
 
Hokulele said:
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Billion-year-old carbon. So THAT'S what they were singing... I don't even remember what I thought it was, or if it's always just been filed under "unintelligible," but thanks for clearing it up. Right up there with the time I realized that Hendricks wasn't singing "Excuse me while I kiss this guy."

I DO remember seeing some of those pictures in the Life magazine we got in the mail.
 
Having just finished a semester of Product Liability law I wonder why we expect more and more from earthly corporations but less and less from God.

In America, most states impose a policy of strict liability on manufacturers who make dangerous products. In other words, they are liable for the injuries of the customer regardless of their mental state at the time the product was manufactured. There are some exceptions to that rule but let's keep it simple.

The Judeo Christian God has created the most dangerous product in the history of existence, the universe itself. The world is full of unexpected precipices and sharp edges. It tends to overheat in certain places, fails to meet sanitary requirements in others, and ultimately causes death in 100% of users in a mere 130 years.

To compound the negligence, the manufacturer has shifted the burden of safety onto the unwilling buyer. WE have to install all handrails, buff all corners, invent and build temperature regulators and kill switches, sanitize the dirty bits, and, as if that weren't enough, find places to stick the dead who start to smell. (Presumably, the smell was also designed.)

God was aware of these defects at the time of distribution, had the knowledge and means to fix them at essentially no cost, and failed to even consider placing a clear and conspicuous warning on the product.

If we file a class action suit, we are certain to win since all of the best lawyers are in hell and hence are forever isolated from the defendant.
 
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