What would a designed universe look like?

I'd settle for just designing a solar system. I'd have more than one inhabitable planet, no asteroids and plenty of inhabitable moons circling aroung the larger planets without the killer radiation. I'd have more than one intelligent species in the solar system to make things more interesting.
 
I think it would depend on the designer.

If it were designed by committee, physics books would probably read more like the IRS code.
 
It's a daunting task, designing a universe. It would require some super-human effort to foresee all the problems that come with the task.
Gravity, light, what to use for the basic parts, how to make these parts fit together and operate as units, and keep going for a long time or not.
Then considering all the ways things can go wrong. Which of these are negligible and which need to looked at.
Would a consistent series of supernovas be needed to seed the galaxies with new materials, or would that satisfactory as random events?
Just on the macro level, it's something one might spend a day or six thinking on.
 
Cainkane1 said:
I'd settle for just designing a solar system. I'd have more than one inhabitable planet, no asteroids and plenty of inhabitable moons circling aroung the larger planets without the killer radiation. I'd have more than one intelligent species in the solar system to make things more interesting.
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Excellent.

Hundreds of billions of galaxies with 100 billion stars in each galaxy, all for a single race of humans. What the hell is that all about?
 
A Christian Sceptic said:
So - anyone?
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If designed by something like a human mind, it would be geometrically perfect. Planets in perfectly circular orbits as we once thought was the case, etc.

It's not a very good question, I'm afraid, ACS since the type of design, as mentioned previously, depends critically on the type of designer. There are many difficulties with the design argument and most were dealt with over 200 years ago. It is a defunct argument.
 
The nature of a designed universe depends on the motivations and capabilities of the designer. The usual who, why and how involved in the creation of anything.

I would gladly give a better answer if you elaborated a bit on the question. After all, what would a designed universe not look like?
 
It's not a very good question, I'm afraid, ACS since the type of design, as mentioned previously, depends critically on the type of designer.
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I see.

There are many difficulties with the design argument and most were dealt with over 200 years ago. It is a defunct argument.
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I was wondering because in a nother post people were saying the universe is as you would expect if there was no designer? Which means - people must know what a designed universe would look like.
 
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A Christian Sceptic said:
I was wondering because in a nother post people were saying the universe is as you would expect if there was no designer? Which means - people must know what a designed universe would look like.
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What they mean is that the universe is not perfect, as would be expected from a perfect designer -- as God is proposed to be. Natural explanations seem capable of explaining most of what we see. There are still mysteries, so we should all say -- we are not sure. But the direction is certainly pointing to natural law as the explanation for what we see in this place.

So, that statement does not mean that they know exactly what a designed universe would look like, but that the supposed 'design' evident here doesn't meet the expectation of an intelligent designer as we would understand it.
 
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What would be the purpose of this universe? If you want us to design it, then we should know what its intention of use is before we start.

("intention of use", if someone could translate it into better English...)
 
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I had a brief discussion with a pastor one day and he used the old creationist argument about the guy walking along, coming upon a watch and being able to tell that it obviously had a designer.

So I asked him what he would compare the watch to in order to say that it had a designer and he said that he would compare it to something that he knew wasn't designed. I asked him for an example because I had a watch and I would like to compare my watch to something that wasn't designed so that I could better understand his argument. He said that I could compare it to a rock so I picked up a rock and we discussed how my watch was obvioulsy different from this rock.

I agreed with him on all his arguments because they all made perfect sense. The watch had little parts that were all carefully put together and worked . . . well, like clockwork! The rock on the otherhand was a haphazard array and obviously didn't work like a watch.

After discussing the whole thing for quite sometime and the pastor feeling that he had done his duty and converted another atheist with his godly wisdom, I said to him, "The only problem I have with your whole argument is that the rock is completely different than the watch and obviously didn't have a designer." He agreed that that was indeed the case which proved his point.

Obviously he still wasn't getting it.
 
qayak said:
I had a brief discussion with a pastor one day and he used the old creationist argument about the guy walking along, coming upon a watch and being able to tell that it obviously had a designer.

So I asked him what he would compare the watch to in order to say that it had a designer and he said that he would compare it to something that he knew wasn't designed. I asked him for an example because I had a watch and I would like to compare my watch to something that wasn't designed so that I could better understand his argument. He said that I could compare it to a rock so I picked up a rock and we discussed how my watch was obvioulsy different from this rock.

I agreed with him on all his arguments because they all made perfect sense. The watch had little parts that were all carefully put together and worked . . . well, like clockwork! The rock on the otherhand was a haphazard array and obviously didn't work like a watch.

After discussing the whole thing for quite sometime and the pastor feeling that he had done his duty and converted another atheist with his godly wisdom, I said to him, "The only problem I have with your whole argument is that the rock is completely different than the watch and obviously didn't have a designer." He agreed that that was indeed the case which proved his point.

Obviously he still wasn't getting it.
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A GEM!!!

Thanks for posting that gayak!
 
From this thread.
Tricky said:
Mia culpa on my bad astronomy (no relation to Phil Plait).

And yeah, that really is a cool site. Here's some really big numbers from that site:


Number of stars within 100 million light years = 200 trillion
Number of large galaxies within 1 billion light years = 3 million
Number of stars in the visible universe = 30 billion trillion (30,000,000,000,000,000,000,000)


So, lots and lots of chances. Lots and lots of time. It would be unbefreakinglievable if something didn't roll a yahtzee with those odds.

And take a look at this map of the universe. Does that look ordered to anybody?

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this charming man said:
Well obviously! Everything is neatly labeled, and it all fits perfectly within a circle. Something with intelligence obviously did that.
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