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I read the OP in this thread and it got me thinking.
In some ways it made me wonder at what it must be like to be born, live and then die – all without an imagination.
I couldn’t imagine it!
WHAT IS DEATH LIKE?
I thought to my self.
WTF?
That is a question which belongs with “What created the Big Bang?” and “Is there a limit to the expansion of the Universe?”
“Who Am I?” even…
So then I started reading some of the replies…the ones that interested me the most had the same theme and it went something like “It will be like before I was born…nothing.”
That got me thinking about…well if we are going to ask those kinds of questions we might as well ask similar ones like:
“I wonder what it was like before I came here?”
That led to this:
“If there was such a time, then why did I choose to come here…why would I?”
Then I started thinking… “I would have known that I would lose all memory of a previous existence…yet still I chose to experience Life on Earth.”
Then:
“What would be the point?”
Then:
“The point would be to experience a single life.”
Then:
“For what purpose?”
Then:
“To bring the memory of that life back into where I came from before coming here.”
Then:
“But I don’t know where I came from.”
Then:
“Irrelevant.”
“Why?”
“Because if you chose to come here knowing you would lose your memory of a previous life, you would have known exactly why it was important enough for you to go through the process to want to have done it. In bringing back the memory of that experience – through the eventual end of that particular life experience you have achieved your aim.”
“Huh?”
“You heard.”
“So how do I know that I will retain a memory of that experience when ending it?”
“You would not have agreed to experience it if you didn’t know for sure that you could.”
“Maybe…”
“You think you are the only one?”
“No. Everyone who has been and gone and everyone that is living now are doing it...so why are we doing it?”
“For something to do. Because you all can.”
“Who are you?”
“The voice of you minds eye examining imagination. Who do you think I am, ‘GOD’ or something?”
“Nope.” [looks guiltily around.]
Then I stared thinking about exobots and remembered AI and this thread:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234306
Which I did attempt to read and it was intriguing for a while but I gave up in the end.
I think my favourite poster in the thread from what I had read was: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/member.php?u=51282
I found this member’s style, while seemingly angry, made significant points regarding AI.
They seemed to address the fantasy of human beings thinking that they could actually create something with AI capabilities.
Then I started thinking about how biological creatures such as we, are here to reach that goal and send it out into the Galaxy, because we couldn’t go there ourselves.
Then I started thinking about the questions in the “WHAT IS DEATH LIKE?” thread and some of those answers as well.
Then I started thinking to my self:
“So what is achieved in a single lifetime?”
And:
“If I came from somewhere and are going back there sometime…what is that in relation to concepts such as ‘Holo-Deck’ and I could see a relationship.
Then I started thinking.
“Hang on.” If I was some thing else before this – something which obviously had a consciousness and will and chose to come here then didn’t that something effectively die in the process?”
Then:
“Unless it remembers itself again once it returns.”
Then:
“If so, then effectively it regains a memory of what it was as well as retains the memory of what it thought it was in the life experience”
Then:
“If so, there would effectively be ‘two personalities’ in the one. The personality I was before going into the experience and the personality I became after leaving the experience.”
Then:
“If so…how would that be in relation to the personality I became through the experience? Mine to keep or discard?”
“How would you chose?”
“I would keep.”
“Why?”
“Because that was what I went to create through the experience. Why would I discard it?”
In some ways it made me wonder at what it must be like to be born, live and then die – all without an imagination.
I couldn’t imagine it!
WHAT IS DEATH LIKE?
I thought to my self.
WTF?
That is a question which belongs with “What created the Big Bang?” and “Is there a limit to the expansion of the Universe?”
“Who Am I?” even…
So then I started reading some of the replies…the ones that interested me the most had the same theme and it went something like “It will be like before I was born…nothing.”
That got me thinking about…well if we are going to ask those kinds of questions we might as well ask similar ones like:
“I wonder what it was like before I came here?”
That led to this:
“If there was such a time, then why did I choose to come here…why would I?”
Then I started thinking… “I would have known that I would lose all memory of a previous existence…yet still I chose to experience Life on Earth.”
Then:
“What would be the point?”
Then:
“The point would be to experience a single life.”
Then:
“For what purpose?”
Then:
“To bring the memory of that life back into where I came from before coming here.”
Then:
“But I don’t know where I came from.”
Then:
“Irrelevant.”
“Why?”
“Because if you chose to come here knowing you would lose your memory of a previous life, you would have known exactly why it was important enough for you to go through the process to want to have done it. In bringing back the memory of that experience – through the eventual end of that particular life experience you have achieved your aim.”
“Huh?”
“You heard.”
“So how do I know that I will retain a memory of that experience when ending it?”
“You would not have agreed to experience it if you didn’t know for sure that you could.”
“Maybe…”
“You think you are the only one?”
“No. Everyone who has been and gone and everyone that is living now are doing it...so why are we doing it?”
“For something to do. Because you all can.”
“Who are you?”
“The voice of you minds eye examining imagination. Who do you think I am, ‘GOD’ or something?”
“Nope.” [looks guiltily around.]
Then I stared thinking about exobots and remembered AI and this thread:
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=234306
Which I did attempt to read and it was intriguing for a while but I gave up in the end.
I think my favourite poster in the thread from what I had read was: http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/member.php?u=51282
I found this member’s style, while seemingly angry, made significant points regarding AI.
They seemed to address the fantasy of human beings thinking that they could actually create something with AI capabilities.
Then I started thinking about how biological creatures such as we, are here to reach that goal and send it out into the Galaxy, because we couldn’t go there ourselves.
Then I started thinking about the questions in the “WHAT IS DEATH LIKE?” thread and some of those answers as well.
Then I started thinking to my self:
“So what is achieved in a single lifetime?”
And:
“If I came from somewhere and are going back there sometime…what is that in relation to concepts such as ‘Holo-Deck’ and I could see a relationship.
Then I started thinking.
“Hang on.” If I was some thing else before this – something which obviously had a consciousness and will and chose to come here then didn’t that something effectively die in the process?”
Then:
“Unless it remembers itself again once it returns.”
Then:
“If so, then effectively it regains a memory of what it was as well as retains the memory of what it thought it was in the life experience”
Then:
“If so, there would effectively be ‘two personalities’ in the one. The personality I was before going into the experience and the personality I became after leaving the experience.”
Then:
“If so…how would that be in relation to the personality I became through the experience? Mine to keep or discard?”
“How would you chose?”
“I would keep.”
“Why?”
“Because that was what I went to create through the experience. Why would I discard it?”
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