What Extremist Views Do You Admit To Having?

[Phrost]

Hate jumping in a thread this late.

1. I believe in the Heinlein model that you have to "earn" your citizenship through government/public service and aren't just given it because your parents spawned you in a certain geographic location.

2. I support mandatory birth control and drug screening for anyone recieving public assistance.

3. I think the legal driving age should be 18.

 

[Tony]

Late arrival here.

*The military draft should be illegal under all circumstances except in the event of a direct invasion by a foreign power.

* The poor and middle classes should pay no income tax and minimal property and sales tax. The rich and upper classes should pay most of the taxes. No taxes on businesses making under a million $ a year profits.

*Education should be compulsory, but skipping school should not be a crime or a punishable offense.

*Legalize all recreational drugs.

*Abolish the executive order.

*Children/minors are not the property of their parents.

*Resisting arrest, dis-obeying a cop, and defending yourself against the police should not be a crime.

*Absolute personal sovereignty.

 

[Kerberos]

*Education should be compulsory, but skipping school should not be a crime or a punishable offense.

What do you mean by that? I don't see how something can be compulsory, if you can ignore it without consequence.

 

[Chaos]

*snip*

*Education should be compulsory, but skipping school should not be a crime or a punishable offense.

I second Kerberos´ question - how is it compulsory if not doing it is not punished?

*snip*

*Children/minors are not the property of their parents.

They aren´t, right now, in the US (and all other countries I know of.

*Resisting arrest, dis-obeying a cop, and defending yourself against the police should not be a crime.

That would mean that someone who is about to be arrested for some minor crime (say, shoplifting) could try to shoot the cops chasing him, because that wouldn´t get him any deeper into trouble if it fails, and would allow him to escape if it succeeds.

 

[Kevin_Lowe]

It's late in this thread, so most of my extreme views are already taken.

Let's see, what's left...

We need a global government, with a standing army and a mandate to intervene when local civilisation collapses. The global government should regulate international tragedy-of-the-commons problems like greenhouse gas emissions, overfishing in international waters and the arms trade.

We also need a world court and a world Interpol-like organisation empowered to arrest anyone, anywhere, given publicly available evidence that they are responsible for international violence or domestic crimes against humanity.

Every government should have a blanket freedom of information law that says every government document becomes public domain on its twentieth birthday, no exceptions whatsoever, no shredding of documents either.

Corporations should have a three strikes law. Three cases of serious misconduct causing public harm by a given corporation or significantly overlapping entity should be cause to strip the company's assets for separate auction, and a ban on all senior management staff from holding any responsible position for the rest of their lives.

Politicians caught engaging in corrupt practises should also be stripped of all assets and banned from engaging in any remunerative enterprise except minimum-wage McJobs for the rest of their lives.

All people and objects involved in the production of Mudoch-owned "news" products should be assembled into a roughly conical pile and set on fire.

(Okay, I'm being silly with that last one).

(A pyramidal pile would would do).

 

[Phrost]

* The poor and middle classes should pay no income tax and minimal property and sales tax. The rich and upper classes should pay most of the taxes. No taxes on businesses making under a million $ a year profits.

That's a great way to stimulate the economy! Penalize success and reward failure. Wow, I wonder why I never thought of that before, especially considering the number of blows to the head I've taken over the years.

Ugh. Spoken like someone who realizes they'll never join the upper classes through lack of ability or motivation.

 

[Luke T.]

That's a great way to stimulate the economy! Penalize success and reward failure. Wow, I wonder why I never thought of that before, especially considering the number of blows to the head I've taken over the years.

Ugh. Spoken like someone who realizes they'll never join the upper classes through lack of ability or motivation.

A very inventive way of saying "you're a moron for believing that."

 

[rikzilla]

It's late in this thread, so most of my extreme views are already taken.

Let's see, what's left...

We need a global government, with a standing army and a mandate to intervene when local civilisation collapses. The global government should regulate international tragedy-of-the-commons problems like greenhouse gas emissions, overfishing in international waters and the arms trade.

We also need a world court and a world Interpol-like organisation empowered to arrest anyone, anywhere, given publicly available evidence that they are responsible for international violence or domestic crimes against humanity.

Every government should have a blanket freedom of information law that says every government document becomes public domain on its twentieth birthday, no exceptions whatsoever, no shredding of documents either.

Corporations should have a three strikes law. Three cases of serious misconduct causing public harm by a given corporation or significantly overlapping entity should be cause to strip the company's assets for separate auction, and a ban on all senior management staff from holding any responsible position for the rest of their lives.

Politicians caught engaging in corrupt practises should also be stripped of all assets and banned from engaging in any remunerative enterprise except minimum-wage McJobs for the rest of their lives.

All people and objects involved in the production of Mudoch-owned "news" products should be assembled into a roughly conical pile and set on fire.

(Okay, I'm being silly with that last one).

(A pyramidal pile would would do).

None of which will ever happen.... because in America we're building these for the express purpose that none of that stuff gets to happen here!

-z

 

[Luke T.]

Page 5, and we've not heard a word out of the Middle East...

 

[Jas]

That's a great way to stimulate the economy! Penalize success and reward failure. Wow, I wonder why I never thought of that before, especially considering the number of blows to the head I've taken over the years.

You mean kind of like the 'progressive" tax system?

 

[Kerberos]

Page 5, and we've not heard a word out of the Middle East...

Cleo said something about Israel, but if it makes you happy, I sometimes wish the entire subcontinent was hit by a metheor.

 

[Tony]

I second Kerberos´ question - how is it compulsory if not doing it is not punished?

Compulsory might be the wrong word. But I think forcing a person to go to school with the threat of jail or fine is wrong, at the same time, I recognize the importance of an educated population.

They aren´t, right now, in the US.

They are in the US. Children have almost no rights. Their parents can control what they do, what they see, what they learn, can inflict violence upon them for not doing what the parent wants.

That would mean that someone who is about to be arrested for some minor crime (say, shoplifting) could try to shoot the cops chasing him, because that wouldn´t get him any deeper into trouble if it fails, and would allow him to escape if it succeeds.

Yes, it would. That situation is still preferable to a situation where the police have absolute authority over an individual. Currently, the police have too much power to abuse.

 

[Tony]

That's a great way to stimulate the economy!

It is a great way. It gives more people and businesses a chance at making it big and becoming established by shifting the burden to those that already have. I can see that the extent to which you've given this "thought" doesn't reach beyond Rush Limbaugh scripture.

Penalize success and reward failure.

(how cute, another Rush Limbaugh platitude.)

As opposed to the current system of penalizing entrepreneurs, and new businesses while protecting the rackets of the elite?

Wow, I wonder why I never thought of that before, especially considering the number of blows to the head I've taken over the years.

You haven't thought of this subject before. You're just reciting Rush Limbaugh slogans, something I grew out of when I was 15.

Spoken like someone who realizes they'll never join the upper classes through lack of ability or motivation.

LOL Speak of the devil.

 

[Kodiak]

(how cute, another Rush Limbaugh platitude.)

Speaking of platitudes...

How about for every "Rush Limbaugh" crack you make about your critics, I make a "Marx" or "Stalin" crack about your views?

 

[Kerberos]

Speaking of platitudes...

How about for every "Rush Limbaugh" crack you make about your critics, I make a "Marx" or "Stalin" crack about your views?

Only Nazies compare other people to Stalin (die thread DIEEE!!! ).

 

[Cleon]

Speaking of platitudes...

How about for every "Rush Limbaugh" crack you make about your critics, I make a "Marx" or "Stalin" crack about your views?

About Tony's views?

 

[IllegalArgument]

Luke started a great thread, I don't care who fired the first shot, but please stop with the personal attacks.

 

[ReFLeX]

Just want some clarification. Is this regarding children with birth defects, or all kids? I ask because my kids were self-aware well before 3, which is why I thought maybe you mean kids with birth defects.

Most children become self-aware at 17-24 months. Before which I am in favour of infanticide.

There is no intrinsic value to human life.

I believe the best reason to outlaw murder is to remove the fear of being attacked from society.

Moral relativism isn't an ideal, but it's a fact.

I would be in favour of the death penalty for recidivists of specific crimes if "proof beyond a reasonable doubt" weren't still so tied up in wrongheaded ideas like eyewitness identification.

Maybe I'm feeling slightly nihilistic this morning.

 

[Kodiak]

About Tony's views?

Since when do Ad Hominem cracks require a foundation of truthfulness or accuracy?

 

[Cleon]

Since when do Ad Hominem cracks require a foundation of truthfulness or accuracy?

You think calling your statement a "Rush Limbaugh plattitude" is an ad hominem? Interesting. I'd disagree, myself--I'd consider it snide, condescending, borderline insulting, but not necessarily ad hominem. Though I suppose one could argue that associating you with Limbaugh is a bit of poisoning the well.

But I think you'd have to agree that associating your views on the matter with Limbaugh is a bit more realistic than associating Tony's views with Stalin.