What Extremist Views Do You Admit To Having?

Part 1: Apart from the topic of entanglement of religion and politics (which I bet most people here are fairly extreme on), I guess my biggest extreme position is that parents should receive no special treatment of any kind from the government. No tax breaks, no censorship of "adult" material, no nanny state. If you decide to have kids, it's entirely your responsibility and no one else's. Can't afford it? Don't do it. Ignore that warning, and it's your own damn fault.

Part 2: I am, generally speaking, a fiscal conservative, and yet I support Social Security.

Jeremy
 
Oh, one other extreme position for me: while I am very much pro-choice, I think Roe v. Wade is increasingly undefensible and probably should not have been decided as it was...reveresal of Roe would not necessarilly end abortion nor would it make it any harder to get than it already is in many jurisdictions. Roe is intellectually inconsistent and has been a poison in the American body politic. There, that is a secret thought...don't tell my wife I said that.
 
Legalization of drugs. All of them. The "War on Drugs" is over, and drugs won. Take the money that we are currently spending on enforcing drug laws, and instead direct it into research into the use of psychotropic medications to treat addiction.

Get rid of much of the social spending in this country. The government is here to help you out when you desperately need help. Not to be your mother from the cradle to the grave.
 
toddjh said:
Part 1: ...If you decide to have kids, it's entirely your responsibility and no one else's. Can't afford it? Don't do it...

Part 2: I am, generally speaking, a fiscal conservative, and yet I support Social Security.

Jeremy
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Irony: if no one's having kids, who's paying into your social security? :D

My extreme position is that FEMA should be placed under military jurisdiction. This would improve accountability, efficiency and effectiveness, and maybe even remove politics to an extent (like crony appointments).

Besides, there's little difference between what FEMA is supposed to do here in the US and what our military is asked to do for the UN overseas.
 
I believe some kind of an intelligence test must be given to anyone planning to run for the Presidency. You cannot run for President if you can't show:

1. A College level understanding of Economics

2. A High school level of History (Foreign and Domestic)

3. A High school level knowledge of Biology

4. A Basic understanding of the Scientific Method

5. The Ability to separate Fact from Fiction (I know that this one might be asking too much)



I'll probably think of some more later, but you get the idea. Also, the test cannot be administered by the Kansas Board of Education!
 
Jocko said:
Irony: if no one's having kids, who's paying into your social security? :D
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Double irony: As a state employee, I am exempt from paying Social Security...private accounts for me! :D

My extreme position is that FEMA should be placed under military jurisdiction. This would improve accountability, efficiency and effectiveness, and maybe even remove politics to an extent (like crony appointments).
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I'm forced to agree. Is that really extreme, though? I mean, the military already (in theory) responds to disasters.

Jeremy
 
Wow! This is turning out even better than I hoped. Great stuff. Keep going!
 
1.) I tried to defend my anti-Gay Marriage stance and found that I could not logically do it. Therefore I am pro-Gay Marriage..in a passive sort of way. (Thanks Silicon...I think...)

2.) I believe the Space Shuttles should all be sent to museums before they end up killing more of our brave astronauts. (I am an aviation nut...licensed pilot...and big fan of manned space travel)

3.) I went to Virginia Beach last weekend for a huge beach-side music fest. I saw Ted Nugent who's music I grew up loving...and who I'd seen in concert 8 times before...(all over 20 years ago)
The show was so over-the-top jingoistic and offensive that I could not enjoy it in the least. I ended up thinking that poor old Nuge must be insane. I am a godless neo-con.

-z
 
rikzilla said:

2.) I believe the Space Shuttles should all be sent to museums before they end up killing more of our brave astronauts. (I am an aviation nut...licensed pilot...and big fan of manned space travel)

3.) I went to Virginia Beach last weekend for a huge beach-side music fest. I saw Ted Nugent who's music I grew up loving...and who I'd seen in concert 8 times before...(all over 20 years ago)
The show was so over-the-top jingoistic and offensive that I could not enjoy it in the least. I ended up thinking that poor old Nuge must be insane. I am a godless neo-con.

-z
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I totally agree with your #2

I would love to hear some of the Ted Nugent jingoistic stories. I know of his political leanings.
 
toddjh said:
I'm forced to agree. Is that really extreme, though? I mean, the military already (in theory) responds to disasters.
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Not as a rule, it doesn't. It has to be requested. In fact, it's illegal for US troops to be deployed stateside without a specific request from the governor. Give the military FEMA's freedom to go wherever, and give FEMA a sense of military organization.

It gets extreme because it would contravene at least one item in the bill of rights.
 
manny said:
I believe people should have to provide picture ID (that's not the extreme part) and proof of gun ownership (that is) to vote.
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I believe people should have to be alive to vote, those zombies must have a kickin lobby more of them vote every year. How long before they elect Osiris as a write in?

I dont believe in chads if you cant figure out a punch card then your vote is not counted.
 
headscratcher4 said:
storing it all up for retaliatory use at a later date? ;)
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Please report to your neighborhood re-education center, and take your rabble-rousing smartass comments with you. :)
 
Probably my most extreme(which is to say that it is my most disagreeable) belief is that we would be equally well off if people were drafted into government service. I'm talking congress, the senate, presidency.

Blatant corruption, rampant stupidity, these are some of the things we could expect from this sort of government. Gotta tell ya, it'd be business as usual.
 
Luke T. said:
Wow! This is turning out even better than I hoped. Great stuff. Keep going!
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I believe Luke T. should be banned from JREF. Passionately, fervently, with all my heart.:D
 
I believe that hedonism, is self-destuctive and self-defeating, and I find sad that it's becoming more and more common.

At the same time, I don't think people have the right to control other people's private behaviors, as long as it doesn't hurt others.
 
headscratcher4 said:
storing it all up for retaliatory use at a later date? ;)
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"Here's where my 'buttons' are, now please don't push them!" :)

Naw. Part I is because I think the more we know and understand each other, the more fun PCE can be. If we know the other person knows he or she is a little nuts for believing what they believe...

Part II is to try and find some common ground.

Okay. It is really just for fun. I like your posts in this topic headscratcher. It makes you more human to me. Not that you weren't before. Just moreso now. Invade Zimbabwe! Yeah!
 
IllegalArgument said:
I believe that hedonism, is self-destuctive and self-defeating, and I find sad that it's becoming more and more common.
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Just out of curiosity, what is your definition of "hedonism?" It can mean a few different things.

Jeremy
 
toddjh said:
Just out of curiosity, what is your definition of "hedonism?" It can mean a few different things.

Jeremy
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Well, not wanting to start a derailing definational discussion...

I have to admit the following defination is a work in progress.

Hedonism:
Constant pursuit of basic pleasures as ones primary meaning and focus. Another way of saying, that one should spend their time to maximizing their pleasure.

To me simples pleasures are spices, not the whole meal. The hedonic treadmill a lot people seem to be on, is actually what is making them unhappy.
 
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