Sorry for the delay in replying; I am not the swiftest of writers and it has taken me some time to construct this reply. I apologise for the length.
If I may I would like to begin with jmercer and the argument that because the dictionary definition of scepticism contains no mention of “moral†or “ethicsâ€
originally posted by jmercer
skepticism has nothing to do with morality or ethics.
I have to say that I think this argument weak. I checked the entry in the same dictionary for “courageâ€, which is one of the classical virtues, and found no mention of “moral†or “ethics†there either. While it may be that modern language does not regard courage as a virtue I find this unlikely so I would conclude instead that the dictionary is producing a definition based on everyday language use rather than the special use of the term in an ethical debate. I do not think that the dictionary argument counts against my contention that scepticism is a virtue.
He then goes on to deal with a post he attributes to me but in fact came from Bruto and is not representative of my views. However his reply to that section does contain this:
originally posted by jmercer
Skepticism is a tool, like a scalpel. When a scalpel is used in surgery, it can be considered an ethical use of the tool; when it's used in murder or disfigurement, then it's not an ethical use, for example.
Which I will speak to because it helps to illustrate one of the key points of virtue ethics.
A scalpel is indeed a tool and like all tools it has a purpose. Its purpose is to cut well. All we can say about a scalpel is that is a good one when it cuts well and a poor one when it cuts badly. The use to which it is put does not affect whether it is “good†or “badâ€.
The same is also true of human beings: we have a purpose. The question then is what is that purpose? To answer that we have to find something that is distinctive of humans (just as the distinctive feature of a scalpel is that it cuts) and the thing that is most characteristic of us is that we are rational beings. It is because we are rational that we can make decisions and more importantly be held responsible by others for those decisions.
This is of fundamental importance to any argument about virtue ethics because those who support it hold that a life lived in a rational way is a better life than one lived in an irrational way. We strive to live a life that is in accord with reason, but we also recognise that humans are complex creatures. So we look for a way of integrating the complexity of human life into a rational system and the way that presents itself is through the expression of virtue.
Which brings me to jmercer’s last point: that the definition of virtue that he agrees does fit scepticism as an “advantage or benefitâ€
originally posted by jmercer
While appropriate, this definition has nothing to do with morals or ethics.
I would argue that he is wrong and that this part of the definition in fact supports my contention that scepticism is a virtue. My answer above about the purpose of humans hopefully makes it clear why I would believe that.
Next I turn to Ashles reply and his initial response that:
originally posted by Ashles
…scepticism isn't a 'way of acting' as much as it is an approach to ideas or claims.
My answer is that for a virtue ethicist striving to live a good life in accord with reason the virtue of scepticism is a way of acting in the world. When I encounter a claim I will have an emotional response to it, either good or bad. However because I possess the virtue of scepticism I will examine it more closely to see if my initial feelings are right or wrong. The speed, accuracy and quality with which I can make that judgement depends on the degree to which I possess the virtue of scepticism. In turn I can only develop the virtue by practising it and internalising it so it becomes an integral part of the way that I act in the world.
Virtue ethics, in contrast to the other two main theories of normative ethics, acknowledges that our feelings are central to our existence as human beings; they are a lens through which we experience the world. It is our emotional responses to situations that make us sensitive to the nuances of the particular circumstances that are important in each case. Without emotions we would have great difficulty appreciating the depth and resonance of a problem and in choosing the best way of dealing with it.
This doesn’t mean, though, that followers of virtue ethics believe that we should be slave to our emotions. For a virtue ethicist emotions are something that must be cultivated so that they are displayed appropriately and used as well developed sensitivities that inform judgement rather than merely instinctive reactions.
This raises the issue of experience. Within virtue ethics we can make a distinction between the “nice child†and the “virtuous adultâ€. It is possible to find a child who is honest, generous and kind (at least I am told it is possible) and we would certainly be happy to acknowledge that such a child is very nice. However we are unlikely to describe a child as virtuous. Furthermore we know that such a child although acting out of the best intentions is more prone to make errors than an adult with the same characteristics. Why? Because the child lacks the practical wisdom that life experience brings.
A child may act with the best intentions but fail because he lacks insight into the full consequences of what he does, does not fully appreciate what he needs to know in order to bring about the desired result or has an understanding of what may be beneficial or harmful that is lacking or frankly mistaken. Making mistakes that come from these deficiencies is part of growing up and we, as rational adults, would rarely (if ever) hold a child culpable for mistakes that come from them and lead to undesirable outcomes.
In contrast we do hold adults to account if their actions or decisions lead to poor outcomes that could have been avoided by a more thoughtful approach or better grasp of likely outcomes or predicted from the knowledge that they had of the situation. We expect that an adult’s life experience will prevent them from making the same mistakes that a child would.
Unfortunately despite their life experiences many adults continue to make mistakes in their ethical dealings with the world. Many of them are highly intelligent, they are often educated and yet they continue to make poor or hurtful decisions. A virtue ethicist would argue that although these people have life experience they lack the practical wisdom to apply it correctly and thus cannot live in accordance with the virtues.
The practically wise, on the other hand, understand what is truly worthwhile, truly important and truly advantageous in life. They know, to put in a nutshell, how to live well.
Which brings me to:
originally posted by Ashles
BTW you ignored my example of healthy living, which is a way of acting in the world.
I apologise for that. I’ll try and put it right now.
The living well that the virtuous experience is almost always expressed using a term from ancient Greek moral philosophy –
eudaimonia. This is usually translated as either “happiness†or “flourishingâ€, although neither term really captures what it means. Obviously the problem with using “happiness†is that our modern understanding of it makes it an entirely subjective state. The only person who can tell if I am happy or have led a happy life is myself and if I say I am happy you have to accept that what I say is true. Flourishing on the other hand, while a better approximation, carries with it the idea of physical well-being. I can point at plants and animals and say that they are flourishing but the concept of
eudaemonia can only be applied to rational beings. Flourishing does have the advantage, though, that it is a potentially more objective term. I may claim to be flourishing physically or mentally, and even believe that, but I may also be demonstrably wrong.
Is healthy living on its own a virtue? No, because it arises out of being
eudaemon, out of flourishing. While I can point to honesty or compassion and hold them up as virtues I cannot isolate a healthy life from being wise, temperate and prudent.
originally posted by Ashles
And who judges this? Who decides what is admirable?
Many people dislike scepticism. How can you objectively decide they are incorrect and you are correct?
The charge of cultural relativity is a difficult one for any ethical system to overcome, not just virtue ethics. However it is possible to argue that virtue ethics copes better with this than others since it is the way that virtues are applied within a society that produces the conflict not the virtues themselves.
For instance you assert that scepticism is disliked by many, would not be recognised by them as a virtue and hence cannot be considered one. I would disagree with this – I think it would be difficult to find anyone who would claim that scepticism
qua scepticism is a bad thing. Indeed many practitioners of the “woo arts†claim that they were sceptical when they first encountered X but were converted by the evidence of what they saw or experienced. They attribute to themselves a virtue they do not possess in order to improve their standing in the eyes of those they are speaking to.
People dislike scepticism when it is used to expose what they espouse to be false. This doesn’t mean that they do not think of it as a virtue. I’ve seen people who challenge irrational views labelled “pseudo-sceptics†by opponents in what is clearly a (rather pathetic) attempt to demonstrate that those who expose “woo†in fact lack the real virtue of scepticism and instead have fallen into one of its related vices. These people recognise that scepticism is a virtue, just as the conman recognises that honesty is a virtue, they just do not like having it used against them.
Richard Kraut’s writing on what it is to possess a virtue elicited this response:
originally posted by Ashles
Fascinating. One person’s opinion of course, but fascinating nonetheless. But not a lot to do with scepticism though.
I hope that I have demonstrated why this passage is a lot to do with scepticism. If scepticism is a virtue then to have it is to integrate it into a deep and complex ethical life that is concerned with a lot more than simply demonstrating that someone’s ideas are wrong. BTW it’s not just one person’s opinion; it is a fairly good summation of what virtue ethicists think it is to possess a virtue.
Ashles next challenges me because I claim that someone who disputes something only in order to show off their knowledge is not displaying the virtue of scepticism. His response:
originally posted by Ashles
But they are still displaying scepticism.
is, I would argue, incorrect. A person who habitually challenges claims in order to make themselves appear more knowledgeable or in order to browbeat others is not displaying scepticism. They are instead displaying vices such as indiscretion, tactlessness, bullying or egotism. What this sort of behaviour shows is that such a person, while they have the mental faculties to be sceptical lacks both the other virtues that are necessary to be ethical and the practical wisdom to develop them. Would any of us describe such a person as living a flourishing life?
Ashles next point, in answer to my assertion that it is possible to have the virtue of scepticism without being tactless or indiscreet, was:
originally posted by Ashles
Of course it is. Because scepticism is not a moral position. It is an entirely seperate concept.
Exhibiting scepticism does not confer any measure whatsoever of virtue or ethics or goodness
I would actually agree with, although perhaps not for the reasons Ashles had when he posted. I hope that I have made it clear (although I am not a good writer) that a virtue is not simply a moral position. It is a much deeper character trait that forms part of the complex whole that is a virtuous person.
Scepticism is not a moral position; it is a virtue*. The two are not the same thing and are not synonymous with one another. Exhibiting scepticism does not mean I have the virtue of scepticism, just as exhibiting honesty does not mean I have that virtue. My reasons for acting are paramount – in order to have the virtue of scepticism it must be part of my character, not simply an expedient way of dealing with a situation.
Ashles then presents a list of statements he says display scepticism and asks if the people making them are virtuous. The answer is of course “I don’t know†because I cannot make a judgement about whether someone is virtuous from a single statement. A single act or statement tells me nothing about their character.
Virtue ethics is concerned with character. Most ethics systems ask the question “How do I make the right decision?†In contrast virtue ethics asks, “What sort of person should I be and how should I live my life?â€
Remember I am arguing from the point of view of virtue ethics. I am not concerned with whether or not you can universalise scepticism** I am concerned with whether scepticism is necessary to live a flourishing life. I am arguing that you do need it and that it is a virtue to have it and I haven’t seen any convincing arguments that I am wrong.
* There is a strand within virtue ethics that argues that “moral†and “ethical†are not the same thing. Something is moral, this group argues, if it is rule based and if blame can be apportioned if that rule is broken. Something is ethical on the other hand if it contributes to a good life.
** I think you probably could make a good argument for universalising scepticism under both consequentialist and deontological approaches but this post is already way too long.