Split Thread What does "MIHOP" mean?

MIHOP is impossible without implicating tens of thousands of people...
The meaning and usage of an acronym has absolutely nothing to do with your personal viewpoint.

It has everything to do with what the acronym has been used to mean.

Details have been provided highlighting a wide range of meanings, which is the thread topic. "What does MIHOP mean", not "you don't think any of the various existing MIHOP scenarios are true".
 
A number of posters make that assumption, but it is not global, nor does your ridiculous argument work.

I don't agree, others don't agree, therefore your assertion is false.


Incorrect.

Perhaps you forgot to read the bolded part:

noahfence said:
Here, on the JREF 9/11 subforum, MIHOP = US Government did it.

In this subforum, everyone agrees that MIHOP means exactly that. He did not say "globally" or anything to that effect.
 
The meaning and usage of an acronym has absolutely nothing to do with your personal viewpoint.

It has everything to do with what the acronym has been used to mean.

Details have been provided highlighting a wide range of meanings, which is the thread topic. "What does MIHOP mean", not "you don't think any of the various existing MIHOP scenarios are true".

Oh, is that all?

MIHOP means:

(the government)

Made
It
Happen
On
Purpose

/thread

It should have ended at Oystein's post #3.
 
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And ["Peak oil" MIHOP] brings back 184000 :rolleyes:

More than zero then...

And by clicking the links that are brought up, Peak Oil MIHOP is another way of saying the USG because of problems in the oil reserves. How would this be different than USG MIHOP?
 
(the government)

"The government" is a particularly poor choice of words.

The following alternative "who" have been presented a number times...

  • Cheney-Bush MIHOP
  • Peak Oil MIHOP
  • Mossad MIHOP
  • Zionist MIHOP
  • Jewish MIHOP
  • New World Order MIHOP
  • Rogue Network MIHOP
  • Space Aliens MIHOP
  • Al Qaeda MIHOP

I'm afraid that no matter how many times you assert your preferred choice, you cannot change the fact that the acronym has been, and will continue to be, used with various differing "who", "what" and "how", along with literal use and non-specific meaning.

It appears you have not bothered to read the thread.
 
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And by clicking the links that are brought up, Peak Oil MIHOP is another way of saying the USG because of problems in the oil reserves. How would this be different than USG MIHOP?
Some of the additional "who" options could be viewed as including US government elements, however, certainly not all.

The point being that USG-MIHOP is not the only possible meaning.

It appears the roundabout has begun again.

I suggest you read the thread from the beginning.

There really is no excuse.
 
Incorrect.

In this subforum, everyone agrees that MIHOP means exactly that. He did not say "globally" or anything to that effect.

He got you there. He's on this subforum and a member and he chooses to use it diffidently.


I have no idea why anyone is arguing this at this point. I suppose it's better than anything else on the first page.


:rolleyes:
 
Yet it has everything to do with yours?
Not at all. It has everything to do with what people other than myself (and including myself of course) have meant when writing the acronym MIHOP, as has been made abundently clear.

If your intent is to drag the discussion out further, we can start right back at the beginning if you like.

Settle down.
Are you getting frustrated or something ? I'm fine thanks.
 
I have no idea why anyone is arguing this at this point.
I quite agree. Surely there is no problem for everyone to say...

USG-MIHOP is a common assumption, but yes, many other types of MIHOP exist and have been discussed over the years.

MIHOP means all sorts of different things to all sorts of different people.

It's really not difficult, and meaning clearly varies.
 
I quite agree. Surely there is no problem for everyone to say...

USG-MIHOP is a common assumption, but yes, many other types of MIHOP exist and have been discussed over the years.

MIHOP means all sorts of different things to all sorts of different people.

It's really not difficult, and meaning clearly varies.
You've got to admit. It been really boring in the 9/11 conspiracy camp as of late.
 
F2, I am holding out hope for you kiddo. Please re-read the post below, and try for comprehension. 3rd time is a charm.

You are clearly incorrect in every conceivable way on this topic.

Again, for comprehension F2:

con·text   [kon-tekst]
noun
1.
the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context.
2.
the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.


Either you are ignorant of the above, or are simply lying in a vain attempt at narcissism. Either way, you desperately need the following:

per·spec·tive   [per-spek-tiv] noun
5.
the state of one's ideas, the facts known to one, etc., in having a meaningful interrelationship


So, again, allow me to supply it champ.

What does P.C. mean? Personal computer? Primary care? Politically Correct? Pro choice? All of those? None of those? What?

F2, it means all of them...DEPENDING ON CONTEXT.

Point.
Blank.
End.

If one is talking about computers, and use the acronym PC...it means 'Personal Computer'. Each and every time. Without fail. If it doesn't, one is not talking about computers. Thus, in a conversation about computers, PC means personal computer.

If one is talking about Political left thinking ideals regarding language and behavior, P.C. means Political Correctness/Politically Correct. Each and every time. Without fail. If it doesn't, one is not talking about left thinking ideals regarding language and behavior. Thus, in a conversation about left thinking ideals regarding language and behavior PC means Political Correctness/Politically Correct.

Shall I go on? I think I don't need to.

So, F2, when you say "MIHOP"....it CAN mean many things.....but that all depends on CONTEXT.

con·text   [kon-tekst]
noun
1.
the parts of a written or spoken statement that precede or follow a specific word or passage, usually influencing its meaning or effect: You have misinterpreted my remark because you took it out of context.
2.
the set of circumstances or facts that surround a particular event, situation, etc.


So, the fact stands..when you used, or anyone uses, MIHOP, when talking about the events of 9/11, on a conspiracy theory forum, in a 9/11 conspiracy theory sub forum..they are saying elements within the USG (scope undefined) MIHOP! They are taking a stance against the official narrative, which has been funded and overseen by the USG. The "what" and "who" are defined by default by the context.
And, By USG..I didn't mean University System of Georgia, or United Stated Gypsum.

Of course, everyone know this..because of the....CONTEXT.

Even more damning is the use of "it" in the English language. "It" always, every-time, without fail, refers to the subject being discussed. That is why "Pull IT" was so absurd...because the subject was never building 7, and always the rescue and fire fighting attempt's around it.

So, to re-cap: "It" = the subject matter. This is perhaps where your argument fails most dynamically and dramatically. When you say MIHOP...the "It" is made clear by the subject. Read that again. The "It" is made clear by the subject. The context. So, therefor, when talking about 911..the "It", by definition, by default, is the events of 9/11. More specifically, when talking about the collapse of the WTC's, the "It" is just that...the collapse of the WTC's.

So, when you told a fellow (as in like yourself) truther, when discussing the collapse of the WTC's, at the 911 forum that you where, quote "MIHOP"..it is abundantly and crystal clear what your meant.

The Who. The What. All made perfectly clear by context. If that (USG M WTC collapse OP) is not what you meant, then it is you who has the problem communicating your thoughts, and should thus admit so.

That, F2, is the bottom line.

No If's.
No And's.
No But's.
 
"The government" is a particularly poor choice of words.

Only in your world.

The following alternative "who" have been presented a number times...


  • [*]Cheney-Bush MIHOP [*]Peak Oil MIHOP [*]Mossad MIHOP [*]Zionist MIHOP [*]Jewish MIHOP [*]New World Order MIHOP [*]Rogue Network MIHOP
  • Space Aliens MIHOP
  • Al Qaeda MIHOP

And, in my time at JREF, each of the items I've highlighted have been directly and/or indirectly been linked back to being instigated or overseen by the USG, Bush, etc. I've never seen "MIHOP" as a reference to Aliens or AQ at JREF or otherwise.

The question was, basically, when you see the acronym "MIHOP", what does it mean? It means that, the USG, in some way/shape/form Made 9/11 Happen On Purpose.

You can nit-pick all you want, but your arguing semantics in some vain attempt to be right. Sorry, you're not right...or, "incorrect", as you so like to note without a valid rebuttal.


I'm afraid that no matter how many times you assert your preferred choice, you cannot change the fact that the acronym has been, and will continue to be, used with various differing "who", "what" and "how", along with literal use and non-specific meaning.

I'm afraid that no matter how many times you try to sell your wares, you're wrong. The acronym MIHOP is perceived as I pointed out above in this sub-forum. Everyone in here has pointed that out to you. You are the exception. Good for you.


It appears you have not bothered to read the thread.

You're right...I didn't read the whole thread. Seeing that the first page seemed to roll right into page 13, I didn't bother. Did I miss something?

You're trying to argue people's perceptions. It's pretty silly really.
 
F2, I am holding out hope for you kiddo.
My userID is femr2, not "F2" or "kiddo".

Please re-read the post below, and try for comprehension. 3rd time is a charm.
I suggest you read the original response.

It appears you think that re-quoting the dictionary definition for "context" somehow bolsters the apparent intellectual level of your, er, prose. I'm afraid I rather disagree. I think it's quite funny (and enlightening) that you think it would be necessary.

You are clearly incorrect in every conceivable way on this topic.
Clearly not.

I see you are capable of accepting that the acronym MIHOP has many different meanings to many different people, which is correct. Your current problem is that you apply too much credence to specific contextual intent.

As highlighted in my previous response, your assertions about specific context are not correct.

As I said...

Surely there is no problem for everyone to say...

USG-MIHOP is a common assumption, but yes, many other types of MIHOP exist and have been discussed over the years.

MIHOP means all sorts of different things to all sorts of different people.

It's really not difficult, and meaning clearly varies.
 
F2, what does the acroynm P.C. stand for when talking about computers?


How about when talking about Physicians?


Not off topic..answer the question.
On 2nd thought champ, never mind..I have grown quit tired of your inabilty to see the reality through the haze of your ignorance.

The fact stand, unquestioned, that when talking about "____(whatever)_________ " ..the I in MIHOP refers to "______(whatever)______________" (which is the subject). You were talking about the WTC, and said you were "clearly MIHOP" so we all know the "It", and, subsequentlly the "who".

I agree with Noah...close 'er down. Its a dead issue.


My userID is femr2, not "F2" or "kiddo".


I suggest you read the original response.

It appears you think that re-quoting the dictionary definition for "context" somehow bolsters the apparent intellectual level of your, er, prose. I'm afraid I rather disagree. I think it's quite funny (and enlightening) that you think it would be necessary.


Clearly not.

I see you are capable of accepting that the acronym MIHOP has many different meanings to many different people, which is correct. Your current problem is that you apply too much credence to specific contextual intent.

As highlighted in my previous response, your assertions about specific context are not correct.

As I said...

Surely there is no problem for everyone to say...

USG-MIHOP is a common assumption, but yes, many other types of MIHOP exist and have been discussed over the years.

MIHOP means all sorts of different things to all sorts of different people.

It's really not difficult, and meaning clearly varies.
 
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Only in your world.
No, in my "country" would be a better response. Believe it or not, there is more than one government in "my world".

And, in my time at JREF, each of the items I've highlighted have been directly and/or indirectly been linked back to being instigated or overseen by the USG, Bush, etc. I've never seen "MIHOP" as a reference to Aliens or AQ at JREF or otherwise.
So ? "At JREF" is utterly irrelevant. I'm sure you could find MIHOP used in conjunction with "moonbats" on da intrawebz if you look for it :rolleyes:

The question was, basically, when you see the acronym "MIHOP", what does it mean?
That is what it means to "me".

I have already said...

Literal Made It Happen On Purpose. No specific who, what or how. (Any of the other highlighted meanings are also fine by me, though may need stating by the person using them for their intent to be specifically clear)

It means that, the USG, in some way/shape/form Made 9/11 Happen On Purpose.
That is what it means to "you".

Our meanings differ. That's fine.

You can nit-pick all you want, but your arguing semantics in some vain attempt to be right. Sorry, you're not right...or, "incorrect", as you so like to note without a valid rebuttal.
See above.

I'm afraid that no matter how many times you try to sell your wares, you're wrong.
About what ?

The acronym MIHOP is perceived as I pointed out above in this sub-forum.
By some, not all.

Everyone in here has pointed that out to you.
I have no problem if you, or whoever, asssumes a USG prefixed MIHOP, but that's not the only valid usage, as has been made repeatedly clear.

You are the exception.
Incorrect.

You're right...I didn't read the whole thread. Seeing that the first page seemed to roll right into page 13, I didn't bother. Did I miss something?
Yes.

You're trying to argue people's perceptions. It's pretty silly really.
Incorrect. Others are trying force a singular "perception". Rather ironic that you would think I'm trying to force anyone to use a particular MIHOP interpretation. Suggest you read the (pretty ridiculous) thread in full.
 
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