Moderated What Caused the Plane Shaped Hole

[yankee451]

We're still waiting for you to produce some evidence for what you think caused the holes. We're done and you haven't even started.

I was hoping you'd come back from your vacation with something...........anything.

Well we already know from the failed reports from the "official" sources that they couldn't prove a plane could cause it, so the next question is what could?

 

[DGM]

Well we already know from the failed reports from the "official" sources that they couldn't prove a plane could cause it, so the next question is what could?

What would those be? I don't remember any source trying to prove the hole was made by a plane. That's something you made up.

 

[beachnut]

Well we already know from the failed reports from the "official" sources that they couldn't prove a plane could cause it, so the next question is what could?

Golly gee, RADAR proves it was planes, and so does physics. Two things you don't do.

Why not take time out from spreading silly lies and vote on the photo of the month?
Have you voted on the photo of the month, or are you too busy spreading fantasy?
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=271900
Or You could fold, and help science. Wait, you don't do science...
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154
Do you do more than spread lies about 911?
Can you?

 

[yankee451]

Oh contraire...I expect to be ridiculed, but then I'm not the one who took the photos of the damage no one seems willing to discuss. To wit, if JSANDERO claims the floors were so weak they pancaked onto the floors below, what could be holding up this floor?

[qimg]http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/because-it-is-holding-up-all-this-debris.png[/qimg]

You'd think if the floors all "pancaked" to street level, then these dozens of tons of steel should have ended up in the basement.

 

[beachnut]

You'd think if the floors all "pancaked" to street level, then these dozens of tons of steel should have ended up in the basement.

Tons did. So? Why can't you do radar?

Do you help science? http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154

You have posted all your nonsense, now we can vote.

 

[yankee451]

What would those be? I don't remember any source trying to prove the hole was made by a plane. That's something you made up.

Whatabout this one?

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Chapter-IV-Aircraft-Impact.pdf

What about the NIST? Did they prove it? Nope, but they guessed:
http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/wing-burst.jpg

What about Purdue? Oh, no we already know they didn't supply the FEA to accompany their cartoon...hmm...

Waitaminit...you mean no one's been able to prove a plane could breach the wall? Why do you believe it?

 

[DGM]

Whatabout this one?

http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Chapter-IV-Aircraft-Impact.pdf

What about the NIST? Did they prove it? Nope, but they guessed:
http://yankee451.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/wing-burst.jpg

What about Purdue? Oh, no we already know they didn't supply the FEA to accompany their cartoon...hmm...

Waitaminit...you mean no one's been able to prove a plane could breach the wall? Why do you believe it?

Where were they trying to prove a plane made the holes. That's your fantasy. They were showing structural damage due to calculated forces.

Quote me one(official) source that says they need to prove there were planes.

Bet you can't.

 

[yankee451]

Where were they trying to prove a plane made the holes. That's your fantasy. They were showing structural damage due to calculated forces.

They calculated a model to suit a predetermined conclusion but even then they threw in the towel and admitted they were only guessing.

No one has proved a jet could breach the wall.

Quote me one(official) source that says they need to prove there were planes.

Bet you can't.

You'd think it would be an important question to answer before killing tens of thousands of innocent people as retribution.

 

[DGM]

They calculated a model to suit a predetermined conclusion but even then they threw in the towel and admitted they were only guessing.

No one has proved a jet could breach the wall.

No one ever needed to prove this. It's a given.

Nice try at moving the goal posts though.

Try harder next time.

What official source ever tried to prove a plane hit the towers? You claim they did, where? Your fantasy to make people think there is a need to counter your nonsense.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

What about Purdue? Oh, no we already know they didn't supply the FEA to accompany their cartoon...hmm...

?Whaaa?? No! You made the unsupported assertion that the FEA wasn't an FEA because {jedi mind wave}. That's not working.

 

[yankee451]

?Whaaa?? No! You made the unsupported assertion that the FEA wasn't an FEA because {jedi mind wave}. That's not working.

I think it was DGM who admitted Purdue didn't back up their video with an FEA.

 

[yankee451]

No one ever needed to prove this. It's a given.

Ahh...and now we're getting to the meat of the matter.

Why is it a given in your opinion?

 

[DGM]

?Whaaa?? No! You made the unsupported assertion that the FEA wasn't an FEA because {jedi mind wave}. That's not working.

He also made the claim that official sources also produced work to prove there were planes. There has never been a need to do this.

 

[DGM]

Ahh...and now we're getting to the meat of the matter.

Why is it a given in your opinion?

Because all the evidence points that way.

Why do you think all this evidence could be faked?

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I think it was DGM who admitted Purdue didn't back up their video with an FEA.

No, that's you twisting what he said back so far on itself it becomes a lie. Why do you think lying helps you?

 

[yankee451]

He also made the claim that official sources also produced work to prove there were planes. There has never been a need to do this.

And yet there has been, else why did so many try and fail and since they all threw in the towel why, o' why is it a given?

It's because you saw it on the TeeVee, isn't it?

 

[yankee451]

Because all the evidence points that way.

Why do you think all this evidence could be faked?

But this thread makes it clear not all the evidence points that way, which also makes it clear I don't think it's all faked.

 

[Loss Leader]

To wit, if JSANDERO claims the floors were so weak they pancaked onto the floors below, what could be holding up this floor?

The floor was supported by the interior core and the exterior, load-bearing cladding. Of course, as you correctly point out, this was an unsustainable situation. The weight on the floor as well as the deformation of the steel due to fire would soon cause it to collapse. I'm surprised you hadn't heard.

 

[DGM]

And yet there has been, else why did so many try and fail and since they all threw in the towel why, o' why is it a given?

It's because you saw it on the TeeVee, isn't it?

That's your fantasy. Do you think no one notices you can't produce a single source?

 

[yankee451]

No, that's you twisting what he said back so far on itself it becomes a lie. Why do you think lying helps you?

Then produce the link that points to the FEA Purdue used to back up their video. I've provide links, images and videos to back up my argument, please reciprocate.